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I-75 Mi. to central Fl.

Does anyone know of rv parks along the 1-75 rte from Mi. to fla. I figure the first day we will make it to Central KY. then another 350 miles day 2 then into our destination. So we need to spend 2 nights along the way. I am wondering if 2 nights in a dog friendly motel may be the answer. Any suggestion would be appreciated. BTW we are leaving the 1st of Feb. that is why the question. May not dewinterize until after knoxville or a little further south. We will be in our new 34" TT and truck
Dog Trainer 11/20/14 08:57pm Roads and Routes
RE: Renting RV Late Dec. - Phoenix-Denver...All Routes Unsafe?

We have a fully winterized unit (every thing heated by furnace AND engine heat) but the only time we dewinterize is when we know we will be in warm climate (S. Arizona etc) for our next dump station. Most dump stations will be closed in Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and N. Arizona in December. Does that mean you never use the shower or toilet? Thanks. We will use the toilet IF we are in range of an open dump station. CAUTION: Your rental may NOT have heated holding tanks which means you would need to flush the toilet with antifreeze.
Harvard 11/16/14 07:29pm Roads and Routes
RE: Renting RV Late Dec. - Phoenix-Denver...All Routes Unsafe?

We have a fully winterized unit (every thing heated by furnace AND engine heat) but the only time we dewinterize is when we know we will be in warm climate (S. Arizona etc) for our next dump station. Most dump stations will be closed in Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and N. Arizona in December. Does that mean you never use the shower or toilet? Thanks.
supplyguy 11/16/14 05:15pm Roads and Routes
RE: Renting RV Late Dec. - Phoenix-Denver...All Routes Unsafe?

We have a fully winterized unit (every thing heated by furnace AND engine heat) but the only time we dewinterize is when we know we will be in warm climate (S. Arizona etc) for our next dump station. Most dump stations will be closed in Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and N. Arizona in December.
Harvard 11/16/14 04:39pm Roads and Routes
RE: Winter Weekends in a Coachmen Mirada 34BH

Some of the higher end MHs has some insulation srayed under MH wet bay. That helps. Some have heaters in wet bay. Light bulb would help. I bought a indoor/outdoor thermometer. I mount the outdoor monitor in my wet bay up off the floor. I mount it on my black tank dump valve so I can monitor the temp. You can buy heat pads for tanks. I think you would be OK but watch it closely and have a plan of action. I carry a compressor and just blow out my lines. I can winterize on the road. I only use antifreeze in traps. That way I can dewinterize quickly.
WyoTraveler 11/13/14 10:50am Class A Motorhomes
RE: RV freeze protection

Leave the tank empty. Within 8 - 10 hours you can be south enough to dewinterize.
beemerphile1 11/13/14 06:25am General RVing Issues
RE: Anyone have damage from blow-only winterizing?

Is there any problem with draining the pink AF right after you put it into the system? I have always left it in there, but I don't see why you have to. It would be simpler to just get it in and out all in one session. In my current RV, I am winterized now, but will be heading to AZ in January. To dewinterize someplace on the road is more of a pain. Including completely unloading one storage compartment to get to the water filter. And having to sop up the stray AF that stays in the compartment. The compartment is a plastic tub design, with a drain plug, but there is still quite a mess. I'm thinking I'd rather deal with that here and now.
Snowman9000 11/13/14 06:19am General RVing Issues
RE: Cold snap, not winterized yet, issues?

No issues as long as temps don't go much lower than predicted. We've already spent a week camping with overnight temps in the 20's and experienced no frozen waterlines as daytime temps were 50's most days. Have been caught off guard though one Early Spring trip where temps fell well below their forecasted figures in the four corners area. Waterlines did temporarily freeze for a couple of days but all was well after they thawed. Have a great time at the beach for your last RV outing of the year. We've already winterized but do dewinterize on occasion to head south to our neighboring states of TX and AZ to enjoy their milder winter temps.
Sandia Man 11/12/14 11:29am General RVing Issues
RE: Loading up in cold weather

We usually head for Texas in mid Feb. Never had a problem, just turn on the heat in the MH and pack it the day before. We leave it winterized until we get to southern Mo. then dewinterize and head on south.
olfarmer 11/11/14 09:16pm Snowbirds
RE: Loading up in cold weather

Our last 2 winter trips south (only 2) both started out in January here in Michigan. It's been very cold both times. Once I got the 5ver home I first used an electric space heater to warm up the interior, but kept the temp in the low 50's. I also used the furnace, but to a lesser extent. The fridge was fine on electric and switched over to gas a day before leaving. Once on the road I don't worry about food stuffs getting real cold, but since we usually only have one day and maybe one night below freezing it's not a big deal. We have moteled it the first night out in either KY or TN and were able to dewinterize the end of the 2nd day on the road. If the weather was really cold while at the motel I've cranked the furnace up to about 70 or so and then shutting it off before going to bed. The first year we went south it got down to 17F in Bowling Green, KY so the first thing I did in the morning was to turn the furnace back on for about 20-30 minutes. We had a 7 gallon water container sitting in one of the sinks and while I did place a blanket over it, it never froze. If there's anything we are really worried about freezing we place it in our tow vehicle and/or take it into the motel that first night.
Parrothead Mike 11/10/14 06:48pm Snowbirds
RE: No freshwater drain valve?

It sounds like yours is similar to mine. Slide the mattress to one side. If you don't find an opening to allow you to reach into the area under the bed, slide the mattress the other way. When you find the opening, use a flashlight to look in there. You will see the water pump, the valve that opens to allow the fresh water tank to drain through one of those tubes you saw below, and hopefully a tube hooked to a 3 way valve that will let you easily pump the pink stuff through your system if you so choose. Mine also has shut offs for the outside shower. I can winterize the system, close the shut offs for the outside shower, dewinterize the RV, and have a fully functioning water system with the outside shower still winterized. It is possible that the low point drain valves may be there also, although mine are elsewhere.
Bobbo 11/09/14 08:53am Class C Motorhomes
RE: First Winter Trip South - Pls Help Us Avoid Future Divorce

What we do. Wait at home till the latest bad weather has gone through. We then have at least two clear days to reach warmer weather. X2 :) Also we put extra Anti Freeze (AF) in the grey and black holding tanks, so for a couple of nights can use the toilet and clean our teeth with the filtered water we carry on board and a large jug of water for flushing lightly. We DO NOT turn on any faucets until we dewinterize these and the laundry when in warmer climes further south. No issues in many years travelling in all kinds of winter weathers, just frozen noses when we wake up some morning (LOL).
FULLTIMEWANABE 11/08/14 10:50am Beginning RVing
RE: First Winter Trip South - Pls Help Us Avoid Future Divorce

1. and 2. We do not dewinterize until we get south of Oklahoma and even then we check the weather. I-40 can freeze, have snow, and winds anytime. We feel we have to be south by I-20 before we feel safe. Once you get south of I-70, you will find CGs are open and have showers but probably not water. A phone call ahead will help out.
ReadyToGo 11/08/14 05:20am Beginning RVing
RE: First Winter Trip South - Pls Help Us Avoid Future Divorce

1 -- Since we are leaving in the thick of winter, we probably need to get south as quickly as possible. We are in the northwestern portion of ND, so we are about as far from warmth as you can get in these lower 48. Does anyone have any thoughts on just how far south we need to get in order to dewinterize? Just a suggestion. Make a beeline to Quartzsite Arizona. It is warm, cheap, open space, and sort of the Sturgis or Woodstock of RVers for the winter. There can be 200,000 or more and all kinds of vendors and stuff to do. Then, from there go to where you really want to winter.
jmtandem 11/07/14 06:35pm Beginning RVing
First Winter Trip South - Pls Help Us Avoid Future Divorce

Hi All: First time on an RV forum, although I've been lurking here for months, and have found a lot of useful information. But since we are about to venture into potentially dangerous waters, it seems like a good time to jump in. DH and I are planning to take our first mid-winter RV trip. We have previously only done short trips (4 to 14 days) in the summer ... and one in the late fall where we experienced frozen tank misery when crossing Montana to get back to ND. While we don't have a specific itinerary planned, we would like to visit some snowbird friends in AZ while we are down in that direction. I've already poured over the forums for winterizing tips and information; we will probably not dewinterize until we get south enough to do so safely. We are not experienced RVers, and would like to avoid the stress of anything freezing when we need to to not be frozen. A Little Background: * We would love to fly to some beautifully sunny destination, but we have a special needs cat (needs subQ fluids daily), and we don't live in a region where we can easily find pet sitters. This fact, and the fact that our other two cats are like our kids (please don't judge), is what brought us to the RV world in the first place. * Our old "rig" was a little Leisure Travel Van which worked great as a way to get from point A to point B and avoid towing a car with us, but was too small for us older folk to be comfortable. So we are about to take delivery on a Jayco Seneca 37HJ and will be flat towing our Jeep Wrangler. We are looking forward to not having to haul cats into and out of hotel rooms, or renting cars, all while enjoying the newfound comfort of our bigger rig. * Why leave in the middle of winter? We are cattle ranchers, and our livestock count will be at its lowest after the first of the year. That is the only time we can reasonably ask a hired ranch kid to manage the remaining wintered livestock by himself for any length of time. (Explanation over ... thanks for your patience!) Would Love Your Advice: 1 -- Since we are leaving in the thick of winter, we probably need to get south as quickly as possible. We are in the northwestern portion of ND, so we are about as far from warmth as you can get in these lower 48. Does anyone have any thoughts on just how far south we need to get in order to dewinterize? 2 -- Does it seem feasible (if we are willing to go with no showers and bring jugs of water) to stay in open campgrounds with only an electric hookup for whatever number of nights it might take us to get to our dewinterizing destination? Or would you recommend we just plan on staying in hotels for those couple of nights? 3 -- Since we are thinking about AZ for a final destination, does anyone have any routing advice? I assume we should try and stay out of the higher elevation routes, even if it takes us longer to get there, just to avoid the snowy travel factor. Any suggestions? 4 -- Do we need to have chains for our tires at all in case of winter weather? Can you even PUT chains on a Seneca? 5 -- Can you think of anything else I need to know, or can do, to help mitigate a complete breakdown of our marriage that might be caused if we face winter RVing challenges along the way? On the one hand, I expect the inevitable. However, I believe in the motto, "If it's predictable, it's preventable." Any help you all might be able to provide would be very much appreciated. Thank you, in advance!
ranch hostage 11/07/14 04:21pm Beginning RVing
RE: Route from Birch Bay, WA, to Casa Grande, AZ - Comments?

We leave our home base in Reno early December for Casa Grande and take I-80 over the hill to get warm and dewinterize. We either take the 99 or I-5, which the OP will be on going thru Redding, to Bakersfield then the 58 to 395 to the I-15 thru San Bernadino then hooking up with the I-10 which will get you to Casa Grande thru Phoenix. Since our RV Park is on the West side of CG we turn off on the 85 to the I-8 and come in that way which also bypass the Phoenix area. In the past we've taken 395 south out of Reno and also 80 east to ALT 50 to 95 then south but we froze up in Hawthorne one year. Gets to be freezing that way including Feb/March. We prefer the CA route. Safe travels whichever way you go.
Us out West 11/06/14 02:43pm Roads and Routes
RE: Outdoor shower

We use our outside shower twice a year - once to make sure the pink stuff is sufficient and once when we dewinterize to make sure the pink stuff is gone. If we do have a large pot to wash, we have a double fitting on the FW hose and just use that. In our years with the HTT and now the TT, I have only seen 1 trailer with a door on the street side. Can't recall the name, but it was right behind a slide and about 4' or so from the rear. Maybe into a bathroom?? Would like to have had a closer look, but that seemed a bit intrusive. Same here. Twice a yr.
mowin 11/05/14 10:57am Travel Trailers
RE: Outdoor shower

We use our outside shower twice a year - once to make sure the pink stuff is sufficient and once when we dewinterize to make sure the pink stuff is gone. If we do have a large pot to wash, we have a double fitting on the FW hose and just use that. In our years with the HTT and now the TT, I have only seen 1 trailer with a door on the street side. Can't recall the name, but it was right behind a slide and about 4' or so from the rear. Maybe into a bathroom?? Would like to have had a closer look, but that seemed a bit intrusive.
dadmomh 11/05/14 09:27am Travel Trailers
RE: Hot water tank draining

Why pull the rod at all if you are just draining to winterize. Easiest is to open low point drains, open taps and flip pressure valve. All the water will drain out of the HWH negating the need to remove the anode. My experience is that the low point drain will not completely drain the water heater. Also if you use antifreeze, you would have to fill the water heater completely with antifreeze to pressurize the hot water system to get it through all the hot water pipes. Much easier to pull the rod and bypass the water heater with the antifreeze. I just open the low point drain then set the bypass off and pump anti-freeze thru the system without filling the hw tank. I winterize and dewinterize several times a winter since we use our trailer about 10 months a year. Using the low point drain speeds things up because I don't have to remove the anode rod. There's never enough water left in the hw tank to cause any issues due to ice expansion.You don't get the sediment out of the tank by doing this. Removing the rod not only allows you to clean the sediment out but also allows you to check the rod for need of replacement.
colliehauler 10/29/14 05:51pm General RVing Issues
RE: Hot water tank draining

Why pull the rod at all if you are just draining to winterize. Easiest is to open low point drains, open taps and flip pressure valve. All the water will drain out of the HWH negating the need to remove the anode. My experience is that the low point drain will not completely drain the water heater. Also if you use antifreeze, you would have to fill the water heater completely with antifreeze to pressurize the hot water system to get it through all the hot water pipes. Much easier to pull the rod and bypass the water heater with the antifreeze. I just open the low point drain then set the bypass off and pump anti-freeze thru the system without filling the hw tank. I winterize and dewinterize several times a winter since we use our trailer about 10 months a year. Using the low point drain speeds things up because I don't have to remove the anode rod. There's never enough water left in the hw tank to cause any issues due to ice expansion.
PackerBacker 10/29/14 08:54am General RVing Issues
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