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RE: Winterizing City Water Inlet Question

Thanks again. I'm ordering the hand pump and will use it when it arrives and again in April when we head back from AZ, where we'll be going later this month. Last April it was around 90 the day we left but low 20s where we spent that night. I don't dewinterize until late May up here. So getting winterizing right is important, although no problems so far and I've missed the city water inlet and the flush-out in both campers we owned from '09 to 2011/2012, the last winter we spent here at home. The campers saw lots of sub zero temps in the openeded pole barn. Still, it never hurts to make things safer.
cekkk 10/01/14 01:26pm Tech Issues
RE: Picking up 5'er tomorrow...what will I need to buy?

Go to a nearby short term stay campground a couple of days for a 'Shake Down ' cruise. Approach your neighbors for tips, study their set up. Pay attention to how and with what they level, hitch, unhitch, stabilize, dump, winterize, dewinterize, awning tricks, all the thousand ideas of a home on wheels. Pick out what is right for you, all the while listing what you left behind, what you brought you do not need for the next trip. My suggestion is lumber scraps for leveling and for under your jacks when the ground might be soft. and a skillet with a bit of water in it as your level. Water is always level in all directions. And you have a skillet, no need to bring along a level, right? Forget lego blocks, sewer hose slinkys, or expensive toys until you have some experience. A good Watts water pressure regulator. Until you have one, just use your fresh water tank and pump. no worries of high pressure that way. Or of having no water after a freezing night. Be careful when opening and closing slides, quit trying when you hear the slide motor labor the tiniest bit. Save the shear pin. Extend your front landing jacks enough to let the nose back down when it is high unhooking, extend the drop legs enough that the jacks can raise it enough when front low unhooking. Do not over extend or bottom them out. Welcome to the life!
SDcampowneroperator 09/19/14 08:45pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: outside storage, to cover or not to cover?

Give it a fall bath and wax - if you have time, winterize, cover and in the spring you'll be ready to pull out of the driveway with almost nothing to do except dewinterize. AND.....IMHO it keeps your trailer looking much better. BTW, if - now that was a silly thing to say, WHEN they snow piles up, take a long handled brush and clean off what you can without bodily injury.
dadmomh 09/11/14 06:43pm Travel Trailers
RE: outside storage, to cover or not to cover?

Give it a fall bath and wax - if you have time, winterize, cover and in the spring you'll be ready to pull out of the driveway with almost nothing to do except dewinterize. AND.....IMHO it keeps your trailer looking much better. BTW, if - now that was a silly thing to say, WHEN they snow piles up, take a long handled brush and clean off what you can without bodily injury.
dadmomh 09/11/14 05:30pm Travel Trailers
RE: Snowbirds Question

If you dewinterize yourself, as most do, if it's your first time you'll want to make sure that you change the valve settings on the water heater so you are not on bypass. You want water in that heater before you turn on the electric or gas. If you have an outside shower, run fresh water through it, too. If I'm forgetting something it's sure to be brought to our attention!
cekkk 09/07/14 04:20pm Snowbirds
RE: Snowbirds Question

We will dewinterize when we get to Bellingham, Washington. Then head down I 5. If we should run into cold weather before we get to Redding, Ca, dump windshield antifreeze into the gray and black tanks. Not a big issue worrying about dewinterizing!
dfm 09/07/14 10:18am Snowbirds
RE: Best way to winterize yet still use unit in winter?

To me, going thru the winterize/dewinterize protocol every week or so would eventually lead to a frozen pipe, due to me being too stupid to do it properly every time. So I'm also in the "jugs of water for everything" crowd, and leave the plumbing winterized till it warms up. Toilet and black tank can work with pink stuff or windshield washer antifreeze, whatever is cheapest.You can heat water quickly on your stove top. x2. I also carry containers of water. Use the toilet and grey tank(sparingly) making sure there is LOTS of windshield washer antifreeze in the tanks.
camper19709 09/04/14 10:13pm Beginning RVing
RE: Best way to winterize yet still use unit in winter?

In Atlanta? I wouldn't think there is much of a winter. We lived in Maryland. We waited until the first long hard freeze to winterize - as early as November or as late as January. We kept the tanks and water lines dry and put antifreeze in the traps. Our first season, we winterized/dewinterized four times(antifreeze in the entire system). It got old quick. But on those trips, we took drinking water in jugs. Yes it does get cold in Atlanta.... Where are you going to camp? Will you have hookups and will they have a bath house? If so, just leave it winterized. Get a spot near the bath house. Don't use the toilet, shower or any plumbing in your unit. That way, you don't need to dewinterize and rewinterize. We did this a couple years go when we had the travel trailer we used to have stored at Myrtle Beach. Just left it winterized and picked a spot several spots from a bath house. Worked out great.
wbwood 09/04/14 02:38pm Beginning RVing
RE: Best way to winterize yet still use unit in winter?

To me, going thru the winterize/dewinterize protocol every week or so would eventually lead to a frozen pipe, due to me being too stupid to do it properly every time. So I'm also in the "jugs of water for everything" crowd, and leave the plumbing winterized till it warms up. Toilet and black tank can work with pink stuff or windshield washer antifreeze, whatever is cheapest.You can heat water quickly on your stove top.
obgraham 09/01/14 08:21am Beginning RVing
Best way to winterize yet still use unit in winter?

Looking for the safest, best route to take. Plan on camping once a month or so through the winter season. We keep unit at a storage yard with no shore power. I realize my options are to winterize/dewinterize every time, or i could run a heater. Since i have no power, could it run off of solar? I had planned on getting a solar panel to keep my battery charged. Would this be effective and safe? Would it keep all plumbing safe? What about anything outside, like lines or tanks? Or should we invest in what would be needed to do dry winterizing?
DatacomGuy 08/31/14 09:27pm Beginning RVing
RE: Tell us where to go for our fulltime takeoff!

Leaving Wisconsin late Jan/early February can be tricky. Unless you are able to keep your water & tanks warm you may want to dewinterize south of Nashville. Our first Florida trip in 2013, leaving on February 1st from SW Michigan, was very cold and we ran into snow in Nashville the 2nd day out. Around Troy, AL along US231 is a nice spot to stop for a short stay, Deer Run RV Park. It's got FHUs and cable for under $30/night with Good Sam. We've stayed there a couple of times on our way to/from FL. The owner, originally from MI, said that he gets a lot of folks from the Great Lakes area, some staying for the winter. It's a bit chilly there for me though. http://www.deerrunrvpark.com/ If going to FL and trying to watch your pennies you should stay north of the Tampa/Orlando line, or I-4. The temps can get cool, but after February 1st the temps will be warmer, especially during the daytime. Use RV Park Reviews.com as a search tool to look for potential RV parks that fit your budget and amenity needs. There are plenty slightly north of I-4 that will do the job. The site allows you to check out the geographic location as well as the website for the park. From there you can check the rates, pool info, hookups, and whether they are a 55+ campground. We'll be in Crystal River, FL for much of our winter trip and while some think that's too far north we like the climate there in addition to very little traffic which you usually find further south. Good luck on your plans! http://www.rvparkreviews.com/regions/Florida/
Parrothead Mike 08/25/14 03:12pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Odor coming from behind washer

X3 I run mine on a rinse cycle when I winterize with antifreeze and again with fresh water when i dewinterize.
cmarq 07/19/14 06:05am Class A Motorhomes
RE: a follow up to "service disaster at Coburg Camping World"

Hmm, I paid $229.99 for the inspection I had as well as $50 for a walk through. But I was never offered, nor was I aware of, a written copy of the inspection. The only info I got was a phone call that I needed some caulking done and the city water inlet replumbed for an additional $465.33. And the city water inlet doesn't work now, because, according to Brad at Coburg, sometimes when they re-plumb these things, if they don't pay attention a piece can be knocked loose and act as a valve to keep water from coming in. Guess they weren't paying attention. Oh, and I paid for them to dewinterize, another $40, which is apparently when they turned off the valves to the hot water heater and forgot to turn them back, so it was fired up without water in it until I fixed that. Makes me kind of wonder how they checked the hot water heater. Also makes me wonder if that was the reason it blew the second day of our trip. Sorry, I am ranting again.
larihack 06/29/14 03:08pm Camping World Service and Installation
RE: How often should I sanitize?

Pretty much the same as wmoses. Sanitize in the spring when we dewinterize. We rarely carry more water in the FW tank than to allow for a bathroom/handwashing break. If you know that you're TT is going to be sitting in the hot weather for a while, suggest you drain the FW tank....we didn't - as we usually do - and after a few weeks we started getting a funky odor. Finally tracked it down to the water left in the tank. Had to re-sanitize and we were good. We always camp with at least water/electric and when we can FHU. We use the hookup water for dishwashing and showers, but we installed a PUR faucet mount filter for drinking/cooking. We don't like the idea of a zillion empty plastic bottles in the landfills, so this works best for us.
dadmomh 06/16/14 05:30pm Travel Trailers
RE: purchase advise: used Jayco x213 or new Jayco x213?

don't know if outdoors shower will be welcome wherever you park it. I had these showers in most of my motor homes. used them twice a year. once to winterize, once to dewinterize. learn Navy showers. bumpy
Bumpyroad 06/13/14 03:54pm Travel Trailers
Service disaster at Coburg CW

I have been told by experienced RVers that this is the way to contact someone who cares at Camping World. It is pretty clear to me that the folks in Coburg do not. We purchased a 2001 26'RSB Born Free B+ this spring. She has 75,000 miles on her and looked to be in good shape. We bought her at what we now realize was a less than reputable dealer, RV Wholesaler, in Portland, OR. Because we are completely new to the RV world and were planning a big trip, driving our son from WA after graduating from college to Oklahoma City for a teaching job, and then traveling on to NM where I will be working as a physician on the reservation for a few months, we scheduled and paid for a complete inspection and orientation at the about CW at the same time we scheduled to have a back up camera installed. I was particularly concerned about some water stained wood by the toilet and asked them to check that out. We also paid to have her dewinterized. We never received a written report of the inspection but were called and told there were some issues with battery and she needed some caulking on the roof but that all else, including the plumbing around the toilet seemed okay. All told, we spent close to $1300 for this 4 day stay at Cw. We did get a very thorough orientation when we picked her up, which was a good thing, because when he tried to show us how to open the awning, he discovered a loose connection at the top front bolts that had apparently been missed in our 49 point inspection. So we waited around while they took her back to the shop and "fixed it." We then took her in to our mechanic and had some work done. It was there that it was discovered that our generator didn't work. Another oversight, apparently. So we went back to CW and had the generator "diagnosed" for more $$ and serviced for more $$. Whilst getting her set up and loaded for our trip I went through and looked at what I could to make sure we were set. Hmmm, no hot water. Was it the hot water heater that was also overlooked in the inspection? No the light was burning. Back to my best source of info so far, the Born Free discussion group, to find out that when they de winterized they apparently hadn't turn the valves right so no water was actually flowing into the hot water heater. With their help, I turned the valves on, got hot water and turned it off. Figuring we had done our homework, having had the "experts" check everything out and assure us all was right, well except for those few things, we loaded her up, disconnected the power and got ready to hit the road for the first 350 mile trip to our son's graduation. Then we heard the beeping from the refrigerator and saw the blinking "no fuel" lights. Which struck me funny since the monitor said the LP tank was full and the cook top worked. Called 5 times to CW before we finally got hold of a person. This was over an hour's worth of time, just to talk to a service rep. Were told that "these older units" sometimes have rust in the flue that drops onto the flame and we needed to bring her back in to get it looked at......AGAIN. We explained that we were hitting the road an hour ago and were now under a time crunch, and we needed to get it done ASAP, so we drove back up, met the service manager who took her in back and blew the rust off and it worked. For a while. We finally get going, arriving in Walla Walla only 4 hours later than anticipated, and to the tune of the fridge beeping again. Blow off the rust and she works again. After a great weekend watching our son accept his college diploma, we prepare to hit the road on Tuesday, and more beeping, more blowing and decide to use a cooler until we can spend time on it as we have to be in Boise to get our son's car loaded onto a transport unit to be shipped to OK. In Boise I find a compressed air can in Fred Meyer, dismantle the flue, blow out all kinds of gunk and debris, and haven't had a problem since. With the fridge. Camp outside of Boise, 70 miles short of our planned destination due to the fridge issues, try to hook up to city water but only get a trickle of water with that so fill the tank and go to bed. Turn on hot water heater in AM to wash dishes and water only gets lukewarm. Go out to check HWH to find water flowing out the pop off valve, thus extinguishing the flame. Another hour long call to CW to be told what to do to try to fix it, but "sometimes these older units get calcium in the valve and need to be replaced." I guess that wasn't part of the inspection either. Nothing we do stops the flow of water, so we turn it off and start heating water on the stove for dishes and abandon the idea of using our shower. The next day we notice water dripping out from under the left rear tire to find that the toilet had been leaking after all, right where I had asked them to check. Can't tighten the connections enough to stem the flow of water, so now we have no toilet. And the final, hopefully, and most dangerous consequence of CW's apparent lack of competency happened on the final day of the first leg of our trip. Driving along at highway speeds and hear a loud crash outside. Pull off the road as quickly as possible to find the awning in the middle of the highway and the metal support brackets banging up against the rig. The whole thing had pulled free from the side, leaving us on a very narrow should of a high way in KS, with cars whizzing by at 80 MPH (we were going 65 when this happened), trying to get the rest of the brackets off so we could get off the road and remove the rest of the awing cover. The state trooper that pulled over was not happy that we were there or we would have taken pictures. It clearly separated from the bolt that was supposedly fixed by CW. We never even got a chance to use it. Needless to say we are disgusted. We paid the "experts" to tell us what needed to be done to be road worthy and this is what we got. They missed the generator, didn't dewinterize completely, missed the hot water heater malfunction, missed the fridge and when they "fixed" did a poor job of it, missed the leaking toilet, and improperly fixed the awning, which could have caused a serious accident. I am left to wonder what exactly they did inspect and how they train their service folks if this is the best they can do. And they don't seem to care.
larihack 06/04/14 07:11am Camping World Service and Installation
RE: Summerizing my Rv?

Are you referring to dewinterize? Tell us what you did to winterize. As to a book I recommend you read RV Electric. Also, ask as many questions as you want to get answers to. You will also need to tell us what MH you have. For help with systems/appliance, you need to be able to tell us what make and model.
Kiwi_too 05/26/14 10:43pm Class A Motorhomes
dewinterize water heater

I can't find my water valves for my water heater on my Kodiak 291RESL with an Atwood water heater. On the WH panel it looks just as if there is only LP lines, but I don't see any water lines. I know they're there, just no idea where or where the valve is to flush the system. I didn't winterize my TT as I had the shop do it since it was in there for warranty work anyways. Any suggestions or starting points?
wkandxj 05/25/14 01:45pm General RVing Issues
RE: Where you going for Memorial Day weekend?

Staying home as I have been busy traveling for work and expanding my deck so need some quiet time. Have not even touched trailer since last fall so will bring it home Saturday and dewinterize/clean up in prep for a long vacation in two weeks to Moab.
BBFD 05/22/14 08:18pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Where you going for Memorial Day weekend?

No where. I didn't dewinterize the Southwind or get it ready to roll.
gbopp 05/19/14 09:23am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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