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dicnic

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It irks me to death to continue to replace rusted screws, clamps and brackets on our rig just because Nationsl was too cheap to use stainless steel.

I replace the rusted junk with stainless hardware IF I can find a stainless steel replacement. Looks better and does not rust easily.

It is difficult to understand why the manufacturers, knowing that most RVs sit outside all year round, do not use stainless steel hardware on all external fasteners. Just because of the cost, I assume.


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If the manufacturer used all stainless then we would complain about the price being to high.





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I replace with stainless when I need to. It amazes me how prone RV's are to rust, yet many of my vehicles have never seen a garage and never rust. Go figure


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Actually I've foung odd sized screws a bigger issue why use #6 #8 or #10 when #7 and #9 will p#ss the owner off years later.


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dicnic wrote:

It irks me to death to continue to replace rusted screws, clamps and brackets on our rig just because Nationsl was too cheap to use stainless steel.

I replace the rusted junk with stainless hardware IF I can find a stainless steel replacement. Looks better and does not rust easily.

It is difficult to understand why the manufacturers, knowing that most RVs sit outside all year round, do not use stainless steel hardware on all external fasteners. Just because of the cost, I assume.


Yep. This is on my list of things to do. I bought a stainless steel screw
kit and just use what is close in size. Sometimes I feel like getting a
new screw in there actually tightens things up a bit too.

If they had done it already, you wouldn't have an upgrade to do yourself.
What fun is that? :0)

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I tried to replace some rusted out sheet metal screws with stainless steel but couldn't since the stainless was too soft to make it's own "threads" in the steel frame of the coach. I had to use regular steel sheet metal screws. On the other hand, the originals lasted 15 years, so another 15 is longer than I'll own it.

I suppose I could have gone to a specialty fastener supply house and bought some hardened stainless screws, but I didn't want the screws to be worth more than the coach.


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i found a lot of stuff that i just wish they had put a fastener in at all. most (i'm not saying all) of the RV manufacturing industry has a long way to go on quality. maybe the ones that survive will learn something.


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There are over 100 different grades of stainless. If you get the wrong one and install it into steel, guess what? It will rust!Plus you will get the famous galvanic corrosion where the less noble metal will disintegrate. Stainless isn't necessarily the answer to rusting hardware.





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There are about 60 different grades but 5-6 grades make up about 90% of all fasteners available.

What I do when I get a new motorhome is to take a piece of cardboard and a fine point Sharpie and start walking around the motorhome with the appropriate tools and remove one of every screw, lag bolt, etc and stick it into the cardboard with a description, location and quantity. Tailights, trim, awning brackets, step trim, etc.

Then take it to a good fastener house and get SS fasteners.

When you replace the steel originals, wipe a dab of NO-OX anti oxident and you will never have a problem and they will look good forever.


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I get my stainless and chrome hardware from
West Marine (marine grade).
Never had any significant rust on any of my fishing boats
harbored in the bay from the salt water, salt air or electrolysis.
I don't have time to do jobs over, so...I use stainless fasteners
and washers on all modifications and when ever doing repairs
along with stainless brackets when available.



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