Deb and Ed M
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For some of us - it works the "other way", too - I was walking my Aussie and Cattle Dog (leashed) on a path, and a loose Border Collie came bounding out of the underbrush at us! Now everything about this dog read "friendly and loveable" - but I started yelling "Call your dog back" "Call your Dog NOW"!! and a voice from back in the brush says "It's OK - she's friendly" and I yelled back "Mine's NOT and he's going to hurt her". The guy whistled, and the dog ran back to him.
Even though he's socialized, my Cattle Dog will NOT tolerate a strange dog running up to me without a "proper introduction".
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chuckster11
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I guess we have been really lucky because we simply haven't had a situation come up as described by the OP.
We walk our dogs daily in a variety of areas, some used heavily by other dog owners and haven't had a problem.
Obviously we do not carry any "weapons" to protect ourselves or our dogs. I would suggest caution in doing so--killing another man's dog is a serious undertaking and not one that I would be willing to do or advise anyone to do.
Best leave those suggestions alone.
Actually, I agree with Doug on the matter of confined circumstances--the only problem we have ever had with our dogs in a campground was one incident where our dogs, in meeting and greeting, got their leashes tangled with a couple of other dogs' leashes and the response was a quick and vicious reaction by all concerned. Once untangled, everything was fine and we now make sure that when meeting and greeting strange dogs, that we keep tight control of the tethers.
As in most things, moderation is probably the best advice--get between the aggressive dog and your dog, keep control of the situation and hope for the best.
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CA POPPY
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Deb and Ed M wrote: "Call your Dog NOW"!! and a voice from back in the brush says "It's OK - she's friendly" and I yelled back "Mine's NOT and he's going to hurt her".
I've done the same thing, and I am not talking about our little bitty dogs, I am talking about Bud! He grew up on a farm and any dog rushing ours is perceived as a potential killer. As has been suggested, the other dog's owner does not always take this info calmly. There is potential for serious trouble there.
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Hiker3
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Wow. Very unnerving incident.
One day in college, I was walking down the middle of a small quiet residential road (small quaint little homes with no traffic) -- returning home from working a job -- when all of a sudden a screen door SLAMMED OPEN and out bolted a very large and ferocious dog.
I stood there thinking "this is gonna hurt" (and I planted my foot so I could try to kick him with the other). Just as he charged (snarling and all) to the edge of his property, the owner screamed at him and he stopped.
Gotta say that my little hand gesture afterwards was a bit involuntary (and was not polite), but my adrendeline was pumping and I was a bit ticked off.
So much for a nice quiet walk home.
Glad your story ended okay.
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AZPops
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dturm wrote:HIDEOUT wrote:I have a fellow member, on our Cocker Forum, who had her Cocker and herself attacked in her Veterinarian’s office. It is a very sad story as her Cocker did not survive and she was injured.  Where else should we feel protected, but in our Vet’s office?
It happens, I'm glad I've never had any serious incidents. But figure your dogs are in a closed in space, heightened anxiety and everybody (dogs and people) has a stress level through the roof. Perfect situation for "misplaced aggression."
Doug, DVM
This is one reason when I had ‘Baby” and now Calvin. I kept her/keep him in the vehicle while checking in and they stayed in the vehicle till the room is ready for us.
Pops
Oh, one short story. When I was around 5 may be 6 years old (was so long ago I can't remember). I was told if I was attacked by a dog, to stand still, don’t run and the dog won’t hurt you.
OK? My friends and I were cutting through a neighbors yard (we didn’t have fences between/separating yards in this area of Hawaii).
All I remember was hearing loud barking. When I turned around this dog was coming strait to us. My smarter friends ran and I (remembering what I was told) stood there like an "Idiot".
Got bit in the butt, tore my pants and had to have a tetanus shot. All the while telling my parents, “you told me not to run”…ROFL
My parents soon learned that this incident took them a few steps back when trying to teach me life’s lessons…..
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MrsCowboy
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I have the opposite problem with my neo mastiff puppy... she is still being socialized and doesnt quite know her own strength yet - she is 100 lbs at 9 months.
we are dry campers in the CA desert - where a lot of people like to allow their dogs to run loose, no leash. we dont believe in that. this is where my problem lies... my dog does not like to be run up on by other dogs, and therefore gets "defensive", which is not good for the other dogs. if she were to perceive an aggressor to me or one of the kids, there would be no holding her back. on leash with other dogs on leash, she is fine... I have had to warn people to take care of their dogs, as I cannot be sure of her reaction to being run up on. I wish people would quit with the "dog is friendly" and just obey leash laws - for my dogs good and theirs.
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happybooker1
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I belong to another dog site and a member had her leashed PB out for a walk. A much smaller dog rushed out from it's yard and aggressively ran up towards the PB. (This small dog's owner had been told at least once previously to keep the dog inside while the PB was walked on the street). In trying to control her dog, the owner got pulled down or tripped by the leash. Subsequently the PB got loose and killed the smaller dog.
There was a 9+ page discussion on who was at fault, how it could have been prevented, what the next step should be, etc. I believe the conclusion most reached was that type of scenario cannot be 'proofed' for so you have complete control of your dog at all times (even if leashed). You can train and train but it's impossible to know how your dog (and you) might respond in all these situations.
The best thing to do is always have a contingency plan as a backup. Also I have heard that if a dog approaches your leashed dog on a walk, and they look like they are going to 'get into it' you should drop the leash. Most often the dogs will then work it out themselves. This is only if the dogs are fairly equal in size.
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AZPops
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AZPops wrote:happybooker1 wrote: I believe the conclusion most reached was that type of scenario cannot be 'proofed' for so you have complete control of your dog at all times (even if leashed).
I’ve been contemplating about giving my opinion to your conclusion, and decided why not.
My friend and I was walking my calabash uncle’s dogs just out side of San Francisco. When we got to the neighborhood’s park, 4 dogs attacked us (actually three one was a 5 pounder who stood behind watching his buddies unfortunate decision).
Within short period, the three unleashed hunting dogs who attacked the older of the two, were on the ground. All three could not stand due to their injuries. The owner of the dogs running toward us was so belligerent.
At which point both my friend and I, well I should speak for myself. Any sympathy I had left me as we walked away from this person.
So your conclusion is that we were at fault?
If the dog’s leash got tangled in the owner’s foot. Causing her to fall, hitting her head on the curb. Then died from the blunt force to her head from this fall.
So, it would be her fault?
My opinion is, is your conclusion is giving the owner of the unleashed dog an excuse. Taking away the fact as to why they could not contain their pet (?).
Unfortunately I’ve been in several situations where we (my dog and I) were attacked by an unleashed dog. Although I try to be observant and alert when walking the kids. These attacks happen very fast, fortunately I was able to save two smaller breed dogs from injury or killed. The other times, I was able to step between the attack (or at the same time as the first initial contact) and was able to subdue the attacker. BTW, all instances no weapons were use…
My $0.02; Dog is not leashed or contained, the owner is at fault, period....(Thanks Sue, I stand corrected...LOL)
Pops
PS It’s my opinion that if you own a dog that is aggressive or will have the tendency to run toward another dog (friendly or not), it is your responsibility (obligation) to contain it. This is for the dogs safety as well as anyone in the vicinity.
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sue.t
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AZPops wrote:My $0.02; Dog is not leashed, the dog is at fault, period....
If the dog is not leashed, the owner is at fault.
The dog made a bad decision, but isn't the one to fault for the circumstance.
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AZPops
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sue.t wrote:AZPops wrote:My $0.02; Dog is not leashed, the dog is at fault, period....
If the dog is not leashed, the owner is at fault.
The dog made a bad decision, but isn't the one to fault for the circumstance.
OK, Ok, that's what I ment...LOL
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