E&J push'n wind
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San Diego RV center has a comercial running where they have teamed up with Rhino lining, and they make a permanent roof repair by spraying an aluminized rhino lining on your RV roof.
I tried to find somethig on U-tube to see if I could post it but I was unable. Maybe someone after reading this will be more successful finding something.
Anyway, I contacted San Diego RV center VIA email and this is their response for anyone that may be interested.
"Rhino “ Eco Coat Roof System “ is a metal impregnated Rhino product specifically designed for Roofing. We have partnered up with Rhino and have pioneered spraying Motorhome roofs. Being impregnated with aluminum “Eco Coat “ has a thermal value of 45. This translates to a 10 degree to 15 degree drop in inside temperature during the day. You will never have to service your roof again with a dab here or a dab there of sealant. At $500 every 2 or 3 years you will never have to do a complete roof seal again. The savings throughout the life of the vehicle will ultimately pay for the new roof. Eco Coat is a lifetime roof system. Eco Coat runs $16 per square ft. If your coach has about 28 feet of actual roof surface it would be 28 X 9 X $16, which would be $4032. The price does include new AC gaskets. There are no add on charges. That is the out the door price. Finally through the process of lamination the roof strength is increased tremendously. What used to creek and groan, or was scary to walk on will ultimately be much stronger. It takes about 3 days to complete a roof and we generally get you in within a day or 2 of you calling in. We are currently in the process of updating our website with our Rhino Roof System information and a lot of other exciting things taking place at San Diego RV. Please feel free to give me a call and I can go over the complete process and cover any other questions that you might have. Thank you for your interest.
Frank Puente
San Diego RV Center
Office: 619-561-3531, Fax: 619-561-3534"
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Golden_HVAC
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Hi,
I am about to do the same thing to my roof, but with white do it yourself Herculiner bedliner material. My sister used car undercoating to paint the bed of her old Chevy 20 years ago, and that lining held up for 20 years, much like Rino bedliner, however if done again, don't use black! it is way to hot in the sun.
The problem with Herculiner is that the material is somewhat hasardous. Most gloves disolve in acetone or xylene, and the bedliner material is xylene with plastic disolved in it, so once applied, the xylene evaperates, leving behind a tough bedliner / or roof in this case. Yet it also disolves most plastic gloves. I had to find a pair that is resistant to acetone and xylene.
Cost is about $130 per gallon, and they expect 62 square feet per gallon coverage. So about 3 gallons in my case, taking into account the roof vents, A/C ect. Prep time is probably longer than paint on time (just like painting a house) and you have to cover anything that this stuff might spill on, because once dried, it is hard like bedliner, and will not come back off.
I will have to power wash my roof, then clean it with acetone, let that dry for about 30 minutes, then coat it with the herculiner. Should be interesting. I bought 12' x 400' 1 mil thick plastic (like trash can liner) paint tarp at Home Depot. Special gloves from Grainger, gas mask for the fumes, and know that the flash point is only 85F. So no smoking.
Once it drys, I expect a solid surface, that is more slip resistant, will be quietier when it rains, will have a little less heat escape in the winter, heat gain in the summer. And no more black and white streaks on my sidewalls of the RV! That part is priceless!
I was also considering another roof coating. However I have used 1 part coating from Home Depot to cover a roof back in 1995. After selling the camper to my sister in Washington, and it having water puddle on the roof for several weeks, the material disolved, and leaked through, distroying the camper.
EPDM roof coating is a two part coating, that looks like a great alternative, and highly recommended by RV repair people. You add the catalysist, then stir about 10 minutes with a power drill, then wait 1 hour to activate, then apply with a squeegy and roller. The roof is warranty for 5 years, and seems to last much longer. No white or black streaks, and can be applied over EPDM roofs, fiberglass, and other products. Will stick to just about anything, so long as the roof under it is stuck to the motorhome. IT can also be applied to homes and other roofs.
Here is a good website for the EPDM roofing. http://www.epdmcoatings.com/rv_roof_repair.html
EPDM would be my second choise, because it is very slippery when wet, and because I think the Herculiner will last a longer time. I would not pick it if it was 1 part and water soluable. However because it is two part, I would use it to repair a roof. Just that I want to be able to walk on my roof.
Perhaps after replacing my roof with Herculiner, I will have another opnion of the EPDM, depending on how easy or frustrating the Herculiner is to install. EPDM is easy for the RV shop to install, and they can put it out in the sun (even a light mist rain is OK after the surface is dry to the touch) to dry completely. And left over catalysisted EPDM material can be stored at under 50F (in your refrigerator) and it will not cure, until you apply and warm the product.
The video's of EPDM look easy enough to apply it, and the results look great. However it is to slippery for me to consider, when I have an alternative that is slip resistant, and probably will last 10 - 15 years, or more?
You will do well if you get the Rino Liner on the roof. It was applied to another member's roof, he asked for and waited an extra week to get white Rino Liner, and had several gallons applied to his roof. It lasted well. Did not inquire to the cost that he paid.
I think the cost that I have so far is about $150 in supplies, respirator, plastic to prevent spills, special golves, ect. And the roof coating is going to run about $400 more if I use 3 gallons. SO far I have 1 gallon and a quart to go around the seams. I will see if I need to order more white material.
I had scheduled to apply it this weekend, but rain is expected, so it will get put off for another weekend. Hopefully I will be able to report back on how well it worked soon!
Fred.
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Deewayne
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If you're thinking about a roof repair, you may want some kind of product that
has lead in it. LOL
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tpi
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Sounds like they're going to remove the AC and put the roof down around it. Does the same apply to the other vents, skylights etc? I'd hate to have to clear away the new roof to replace some of this stuff.
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Golden_HVAC
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tpi wrote:Sounds like they're going to remove the AC and put the roof down around it. Does the same apply to the other vents, skylights etc? I'd hate to have to clear away the new roof to replace some of this stuff.
I think that once you put bedliner material on the skylight and roof, it will take a grinder to get the material off the skylight and seperate it from the rest of the roof. I hope that I never need to replace my skylight after putting on the bedliner material.
If a fantastic fan goes out, I will have to rebuild it in place. It will be a kinda perminate roof! I think the only thing to damage it will be a large tree.
Fred.
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jimjr
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Golden_HVAC wrote:Hi,
I am about to do the same thing to my roof,
The problem with Herculiner is that the material is somewhat hasardous. Most gloves disolve in acetone or xylene, and the bedliner material is xylene with plastic disolved in it, so once applied, the xylene evaperates, leving behind a tough bedliner / or roof in this case. Yet it also disolves most plastic gloves. I had to find a pair that is resistant to acetone and xylene
Is this stuff going to dissolve the existing roof material?
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E&J push'n wind
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MNtundraRet wrote:Evidently you never read what you wrote.
Your title says: "Never need roof repair again"
The article says:" At $500. every 2 to 3 years you will never have to do a complete roof seal again."
Enough said. I personally will not use it.
Maybe you want to go back and re-read what I wrote, and if your are going to quote somebody, quote them accurately! What do you think "???" means? I'll help you, that means its questionable! I don't know one way or the other. I'm not look'n to replace my roof but I know that there are others that may need it done. This could be a viable alternative. For me to just replace my roof "just because" would be kind of premature but it is something to consider if the "need" ever arises. Right now at the price they're estimating, it'd be cost prohibitive for me but a needed replacement would be about the same cost.
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MNtundraRet
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Evidently you never read what you wrote.
Your title says: "Never need roof repair again"
The article says:" At $500. every 2 to 3 years you will never have to do a complete roof seal again."
Enough said. I personally will not use it.
Mark & Jan "Old age & treachery win over youth & enthusiasm"
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MudChucker
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MNtundraRet wrote:Evidently you never read what you wrote.
Your title says: "Never need roof repair again"
The article says:" At $500. every 2 to 3 years you will never have to do a complete roof seal again."
Enough said. I personally will not use it.
I think you might have misunderstood the article. The 500 dollars every 2 to 3 years is on the factory roof - and having to buy all the dicor and caulk products and redo them... if you go to the eco roof that maintenance cost is eliminated.
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Doug and Cassi Glass
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how much weight does it add?
$4,000/500 = 8 X 3 = 24 years. I'll pass.
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