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Old & Slow wrote:This thread has some really qualified and learned men on board. The Thread is 'Honeywell Inverter Generators' So here is a question. Would it be possible to set this genset in a factory genset compartment for operation? Will it require the same 3 feet area all around as the open frame type. Is the cooling air flow moving in one direction only. One of the pioneers in box building (JIM H) boxed a (I think) 1000w Honda with great success. Low 50's dBA. All generators have a noise factor (above the low 50's) we don't like the sound. My built-in Generac 4000 will make you crazy. Would never run it within hundreds of feet from a neighbor for long hours. Maybe there is hope the Inverters will be built-in sooner than later.
I dont know if it was this thread but I mentioned one aspect of enclosures we had found that went a long way to quieting down generators. On the inlet and outlet sides of the air flow make the air change directions a couple of times.
The main reason for the 3 feet around as you say is for getting rid of the heat. Put a fan in the enclosure to make air move thru it and the 3 feet can be squeezed down considerably.
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Old & Slow
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Hmmm, I mentioned it would be nice to see a Inverter like this Honeywell made for RV compartments. I'm behind the curve. I find 'Generac' has a two part Inverter for RV's. Engine outside and inverter inside the RV. But the article I read stated that when a load was added to the engine, it started to scream at 4200 rpm. Is there no solution to noise from a OEM genset. Guess we better stick to our own noise reduction ideas. The best I read about is the Honda 3000i as an OEM mfg genny. At or above the 3000w level.
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Wayne Dohnal
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The Generac Impact Plus II inverter generators are not manufactured any more. I thought they were a great idea and wish they would have caught on. I have 3 IMO reasons why they didn't: (1) Bad rap from reliability problems, at least on earlier units, (2) Too tall to fit in compartments made for the standard size RV built-in generators, and (3) The 2-box design made for more complex installation (but should have been an advantage for reliability and servicing).
I'm still wishing for a built-in version of the eu3000i.
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NoAngel
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I just registered for this site after looking for info on the Honeywell inverter generators. I won a Honeywell HW1000i on ebay last night for a little over $300.00.
It seems that the discussion have gotten a bit off topic... Honda. Onan, Yamaha, Robin-Subaru (Rebadged or not) and believe it or not Kipor, all build great generators. Other than Yamaha, I own at least one off each. Don't get too tied to one brand for every application. They all have their good points. The Honda is the most quiet, the Kipor KGE3000i is actually my favorite, the Onan is my most trusted (might outlast the cockroaches and trots along at 1800 RPM), the Robin-Subaru I use daily for work, the Honda will always start (but not always my Airstream AC).
In any event, I'll give the Honeywell a good workout when it arrives and let you know what I think. I suspect it won't match the rest but I've been surprised before (The Kipor ).
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Adam-12
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NoAngel wrote: ...the Honda will always start (but not always my Airstream AC).
Im just curious as to what size a/c you have in your 'stream? What are the btu's and amp draw on your unit?
Also, what sized Honda genny do you have?
Just wondering,
Thanks.
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Mousefart
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NoAngel wrote:I just registered for this site after looking for info on the Honeywell inverter generators. I won a Honeywell HW1000i on ebay last night for a little over $300.00.
It seems that the discussion have gotten a bit off topic... Honda. Onan, Yamaha, Robin-Subaru (Rebadged or not) and believe it or not Kipor, all build great generators. Other than Yamaha, I own at least one off each. Don't get too tied to one brand for every application. They all have their good points. The Honda is the most quiet, the Kipor KGE3000i is actually my favorite, the Onan is my most trusted (might outlast the cockroaches and trots along at 1800 RPM), the Robin-Subaru I use daily for work, the Honda will always start (but not always my Airstream AC).
In any event, I'll give the Honeywell a good workout when it arrives and let you know what I think. I suspect it won't match the rest but I've been surprised before (The Kipor ).
OMG, I've never seen a for real generator junky before! So how many generators do you actually have? What do you use them all for? 
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NoAngel
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The AC is a 1972 Armstrong 12.5K BTU. I don't know the starting watts but I had it gone through a couple years ago and the compressor is in good shape and I added a hard start capacitor. The Honda EU3000i wouldn't start it reliably. The Kipor will (As long as the converter isn't running).
And before someone points out that for $500.00 dollars I could have a new 13.5K BTU, I'm still under the delusion that original is better. Until it's dead...
How many generators do I own? Only 5 right now but I'm lusting after the Honda EU6500is pretty badly.
I'm not a gennie nut (Just an Airstream nut). I'm a building contractor and have needed to use generators pretty regularly in the past. There were a number of years when we only had air and power via our own means. That and we usually dry camp and also do 10 days at Burning Man every year (Worst possible conditions for a generator).
Anyhow, I'll let you guys know what the little HW1000 looks like here in a couple days.
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NoAngel
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So...
The HW1000i arrived today. It's junk.
I bought it on ebay for $330.00 including shipping. The seller shipped it very quickly and was quite good about communication. Considering the best price I've found it for is around $479.00, I don't feel so bad.
Right out of the box it didn't run. I used the cute little screwdriver that came with it to take the case off and found that the fuel line was pinched coming out of the tank. This process gave a quick look at the construction and I'm not impressed. Junk fasteners.
After finally getting it running I'm even less impressed. Constant hunting, whether on smart throttle or not, under load or not. It did handle the full load of the converter (Inteli-Power 9260)with all lights and both batteries though.
I keep an old 1980's Honda EM650 as an emergency keep-the-lights-going back up in the tool box. I was hoping the Honeywell might be a good replacement for it. It's not.
Anybody want a good deal on a HW1000i?
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pnichols
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"I keep an old 1980's Honda EM650 as an emergency keep-the-lights-going back up in the tool box."
NoAngel ... now you're talkin'!
I carry an EX650 with maybe 200 hours on it in one of my Class C's compartments to back up the Onan for lights, a small heater, and to charge the coach batteries. FWIW, note that the EX650 (... don't know about the EM650) runs at it's constant 3600 RPM at only a 54dB sound level, while the Honda EU1000i/2000i's run at around 53dB at their idle RPM. Those early Honda's contained, like the new ones, pretty solid engineering.
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Adam-12
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NoAngel wrote:So...
The HW1000i arrived today. It's junk...Right out of the box it didn't run...fuel line was pinched coming out of the tank. This process gave a quick look at the construction and I'm not impressed. Junk fasteners.
After finally getting it running I'm even less impressed. Constant hunting, whether on smart throttle or not, under load or not. It did handle the full load of the converter (Inteli-Power 9260)with all lights and both batteries though.
I was hoping the Honeywell might be a good replacement...It's not.
Anybody want a good deal on a HW1000i?
I feel bad for you. I don't blame you or anyone else that is trying to save some money. I look for bargins all the time. However, I learned myself that when it comes to an excellent, quiet, reliable, rugged generator, you go for Red or Blue (Honda/Yamaha) period.
Other fair and reliable ones are Champions. Their shortcommings are loud noise and "dirty" electricity for sensitive electronics. They don't produce a nice "clean" sin wave at 60Hz. That's very important for lap-tops, sensitive transievers etc...
Invest in Red or Blue and you won't ever be disappointed. Pay a little bit now and be done with it forever.
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