Mousefart
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benbovac wrote:cruiserjs wrote:Grey water is designated as hazardous material by the USEPA! Contains many obnoxious things - body oils, deodorants, sputum, food particles, soap residue and on and on.
Please do not dump it into the open! Use a dump station or a legal sewer system!
USEPA....   Yeah, I will take the gov't advise.
I can't find it right now, but somewher I have a PDF document from the EPA that PROMOTES the use of greywater for irrigation and such (aka, dumping it on the ground). And many federal and state government agencies doe exactly that (OMG, they are breaking their own laws!  ) in parks and public areas.
The local and state greywater laws were written decades ago when all soaps and detergents contains massive quantities of phosphates. They are no longer valid for the INTENT of the law, even though they are still on the books (like those old laws that forbid you to ride you pig to church in Sunday).
If your "greywater" is too dirty to dump on the ground (full of food, gease, etc, then it is sewage by definition, not greywater. The name of the container is meaningless, it is the CONTENT that matters. Believe it or not, if I fill my blackwater tank with fresh, clean water, then open the valve and let'er rip on the ground, I am NOT BREAKING ANY LAW!
So I will continue to dump my clean, food-free GREYwater on the ground as recommended by the EPA guidelines. Unfortunately, I have to do it after dark because of nosy, ignorant, busybodies that believe a horrendous crime is being committed.
For those of you who say, "the law is the law, no matter how stupid", I'll remind you that many states still have laws on the books stating that it is against the law for married couples to have sex in anything but the missionary position (Virginia is one of them). So I'll be peeking through your RV windows at night to make sure you are following THAT law too! Hey, the law is the law, no matter how stupid, right? 
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bukhrn
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Weird, but you can dispose of HUMAN WAIST, in an 8" deep hole, in a National Forest, as per this excerpt from their web site,
"Bury human waste and toilet paper in a hole at least 8 inches deep and well away from a spring or stream; be sure to cover the hole over with loose soil after use."
"Avoid camping within 100 feet of a stream or obvious trail.
Remember, the water you use to bathe or wash dishes in may be drinking water for a downstream camper. So keep soap and waste water from cooking or bathing away from streams."
Sounds to me like you can dump your grey water. I'd be more bothered by the First part.
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ReneeG
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When boondocking on NFS land, we dump our kitchen gray water only into the fire ring at night to put it out. When camping, I only use biodegradable dish soap and because I wipe all pots and dishes clean before washing them, not a lot of food particles are in the water. Some, but not a lot as would be the case at home.
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ford-willy
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1---Some pristine state parks i have camped at have gravel filled holes so you can dump your grey water using a 5 gallon bucket.
2---If you must dump gray water, be smart and do it daily. If you let it sit to long in the tank it gets stinky. Thats what's offensive.
3---Many new homes have systems to keep separate and to reuse gray water for landscape watering.
4---Millions of US homes have septic systems that put gray and black into the ground.
5---Many camps and RV parks have septic systems that put gray and black into the ground at the park itself.
6---When you clean your fish in a bucket of water at the thousands of areas that do not have a sink that goes to a sewer, you throw the bloody water on the ground don't you?
7---Does your dog pee on the grass around the camp? What about other animals.
OOOOOPPPPPs----you just put your picnic blanket right on that spot.
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FreshAir
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ReneeG wrote:When boondocking on NFS land, we dump our kitchen gray water only into the fire ring at night to put it out. When camping, I only use biodegradable dish soap and because I wipe all pots and dishes clean before washing them, not a lot of food particles are in the water. Some, but not a lot as would be the case at home.
Now what better advice can you get than that? Enough said.
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Rubiranch
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EPenney wrote:Most campers I've seen at NFS campgrounds drain gray water on the ground.
Dumping gray water on the ground contributes to climate change/global warming.
We don't stay in campgrounds and would never dump our gray water in one, but we boondock and this is where all of our gray water goes.
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Kejsj30
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I save the greywater to wash everything down when I dump the black tank.
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shorthair
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At times I have dumped grey in a hole I had dug & depending on just where I was boondocking the black also but allways in a hole at least 3' deep & refill the hole each time. Don't dump unless the soil has good drainage & at least 100 yds from water.
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JJBIRISH
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Some might be surprised to know sometimes there is fecal matter left in their clothing from the use of a washing machine…
In fact it is more a matter of respect for others… dumping gray water in moderately to heavily use areas shows a great disrespect for fellow campers… gray water dumped regularly in large or small volumes will smell bad and attract pest before it will break down…
Dumping gray water in out of the way places and not to frequent intervals would not be a problem if allowed by law…
I sure do not want my kids or pets playing where someone else dumped their gray water, and I don‘t care if some think it is ok…
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jay2003 wrote:It's illegal here in California to dump your tanks on the ground. If you're a tent camper though, many of the state parks have a specific area where you're allowed to wash your dishes where the dish water goes into the ground.
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