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SeaDog wrote:I am thinking of taking along a smallish Canadian flag to either hang or fly Medicine_Man wrote:If anyone, after reading the 15 pages posted, goes out and does that they need to have some "Redneck" or "Angry Veteran" stuff their flag where it should be flown. Sunlight would not shine on it.
What part of the US Flag protocol is not being understood?
According to US flag protocol you can fly a foriegn flag above your motorhome ALL BY ITSELF and without the requirement to fly the US flag beside it, but if you decide to ALSO fly the American flag TOO, then you must fly it on a SEPARATE flag pole, of EQUAL height, and of SIMILAR dimensions and on the right (looking forward).
Even if another motorhome pulls in the next site and flys the US flag on a lower flag pole, that is still a separate motorhome and in no way concerns the height of your native flag.
Threads like these only get closed when people start bullying by fear of retribution. As a vet, with unconventional experience, that's not me.
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Medicine_Man
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You said:
"According to US flag protocol you can fly a foriegn flag above your motorhome ALL BY ITSELF and without the requirement to fly the US flag beside it",
I challenge you to support that statement with any code or protocol other than your opinion.
Flying the flag of a nation over a plot of land (MH's sit on land)denotes sovereignty. No other country has sovereignty over US land. The American flag must be flown and the foreign flown appropriately.
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UltimaRV
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Medicine_Man:
I think you are confusing a public building with a private motorhome or plot of land.
This is precisely why foreign visitors have such resignation to proudly fly "their" native flag while visiting our beautiful country.
I refer to myprior post and hope you are "this time" interested enough to click on the link, read, then click on the link to examine the person's credentials. Otherwise, quote me the code that states otherwise, if you can.
The post I quoted from you was fear mongering, and just short of bully tactics (in my opinion).
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From the US flag code
c.No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
I think this takes it out of opinion. I read the link you posted but I don't think it gives license to flying a foreign flag by itself.
Medicine_Man wrote:
"If anyone, after reading the 15 pages posted, goes out and does that they need to have some "Redneck" or "Angry Veteran" stuff their flag where it should be flown. Sunlight would not shine on it".
This was in referance to an earlier post referring to rednecks or an angry veteran may confront someone flying a flag incorrectly.
If I confronted someone it would be done tactfully, diplomatically and knowledgeably.
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edited 10/14/09 08:07pm by Medicine_Man *
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I've followed this thread since the beginning - learned a lot - and have an improved understanding of the emotion behind flying a flag appropriately.
I think however some of this has gotten out of context.
Yes - it may be unintentionally rude and disrespectful, even against the law, to fly a single Canadian flag when visiting the U.S. (or single American flag when visiting Canada). But in levels of obvious disrespect and wrongdoing this pales against an all too common scene of a flag still flying that should have been retired long ago - faded, torn and tattered flags really demonstate an arrogant disregard for the symbol of the country. I think it would be tough to find a flag like this in the RVing crowd. Flags in obvious need of replacement are flown by the tired businesses and agencies of our own communities - maybe that is where some of the energy voiced in this thread should be directed.
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No one is gong to kick you out of a campground if you fly the Canadian flag.
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Many people will fly their flag how ever they want without any regard for protocols. Most don't know better.
You're right, no one's going to be kicked out of a campground or get beat up.
But, if you ask about the proper way to fly the flags, you can get a variety of answers as shown on this topic,
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I really don't think any citizen of any other country will ever understand how we, especially military veterans, feel about our flag here in the USofA. And I don't expect them to understand.
And I think it would be nice if some of our own citizens learned about respect of our flag and flags of other countries. I get tired of seeing all kinds of U.S. Flags being flown outside businesses just to get my business. And tired of seeing the Flag being used for advertisng purposes or painted on vehicles. And tattered flags being flown on vehicles doors. It should be clamped to the right fender. Tattered flags being flown from motor vehicles does not show patriotism because it disrespects the flag. And I refuse to purchase any U.S. Flag made in China!!!
As to two flags, U.S. and another country, on one pole, "International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace." We are not at war with any other country. Some may take issue with that, but we are not, even though there are war actions taking place in other countries. We are not at war with those countries! And Canada is an military ally in these war actions.
Now to stay on topic, I don't mind you flying your Canadian Flag.
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At 16 pages this question of flying flags is way too sensitive a subject,so rather than risk breaking some obscure flag protocal and have some offended patriot of whatever country come over and give me a lesson/lecture in flag respect/etiquette maybe i'll stash the flag and go with a colored wind spinner
Looking at that wind spinner i was thinking it does seem to be rather rainbow colored ,might offend the gay community in some way,so scrap anything multi colored.
Maybe i'll just forget the idea of flying anything.
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jambo101 wrote:At 16 pages this question of flying flags is way too sensitive a subject,so rather than risk breaking some obscure flag protocal and have some offended patriot of whatever country come over and give me a lesson/lecture in flag respect/etiquette maybe i'll stash the flag and go with a colored wind spinner
Looking at that wind spinner i was thinking it does seem to be rather rainbow colored ,might offend the gay community in some way,so scrap anything multi colored.
Maybe i'll just forget the idea of flying anything.
I have come to the same conclusion!
Strange how to some, displaying the flag of a next door neighbor can be construed as an insult to an entire country.
Anyway, I am glad that I asked the question, I imagine that at least a few of us now have a better understanding of the ramifications of flag flying
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