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sh410

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Posted: 10/21/09 01:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Trying to find out how much a propane conversion on a generator would derate the power output of the generator from the rated output on gasoline.

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Posted: 10/21/09 01:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

On a 6.5 Kw it's down to 6.2 Kw on propane, or at least that's what our Genajunk was in our first DSDP.


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I am interested in your question, but don't have a lot of time at the moment to research it - but I found this for a small generator, but don't know if it's accurate or not

NOTE: (1) Based on gasoline fuel. Derate 10% for L.P. gas, 20% for Natural Gas. (2) Code G capacitor start motor. (3) Electric start models include battery rack and cables. Battery not included. BCI Group U1, 12-volt, 235 CCA battery required. (4) Commercial or Prime Power Warranty – 90 Days. International Warranty – Contact WINCO for details.

I found the above here

Check my math, but that "seems" to be roughly in line with what Deen provided, though not quite

* This post was edited 10/21/09 02:47pm by djevans *


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Hi,

Remember that there is only 95,000 Btu's in a gallon of propane, and 115,000 in a gallon of gasoline, you will be using about 20% more fuel too!

I think the 4 KW gas one will drop to about 3,200 watts.

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I think it might vary from generator to generator. For one where the engine runs flat out, like an eu1000i or eu2000i, I'd expect more electrical output loss than with a generator where the engine is loafing along at full output, like an eu3000i or ef2400is.


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Depends.

Contact he genset manufacturer and ask them.

Might be no derate and it might be a 10%.

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.........For every 1,000 feet above mean sea level you're going to be getting less output ! , jf


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Depends on whether the generator or the engine was the limiting factor in the original genset rating. If the engine was slightly larger than necessary to achieve full generator output, then there might not be much or any deration with LP gas.


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on my stand-by generac at home it is 17kw on lp, 16 kw on natural so the 10% from gas to lp is not far off

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My Onan is 2800, LP version is 2500 so that comes out to 12%

The numbers given above "95,000 Btu's in a gallon of propane, and 115,000 in a gallon of gasoline" equate to a 17% difference but as noted you are using propane at a higher rate (gallons per hour)


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