Wrace
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lesmore49 wrote:This would be a good survey thread to send to journalism schools to teach in their " What news consumers want 101" course and to news media management to actually attempt to incorporate into their news presentations.
Yes, but I think you would have to start with management and the stake-holders of the particular news outlet as they are the ones who drive what is covered and how it is covered. Ratings is king and management will give the marketplace what it wants, and to a large degree these days people want balloon boy and OJ type "news stories".
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jlawless
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Orion wrote:That's difficult when you realise that most of our news is supported by advertising dollars & therefore ratings.
That is only the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, the "news" is also supported by lobbyists and special interests dollars. "Foundations" and "Institutions" that do the research and spoon feed the talking heads. The actual commercial advertisers are only a small part of the game.
If you look at old newsreels you have to admit they were full of propaganda also. Citizens have always had to decipher the blowhards from the true facts on the ground.
Another problem is that everything has be given in two minutes - there is no time for detail.
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lesmore49
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Wrace wrote:lesmore49 wrote:This would be a good survey thread to send to journalism schools to teach in their " What news consumers want 101" course and to news media management to actually attempt to incorporate into their news presentations.
Yes, but I think you would have to start with management and the stake-holders of the particular news outlet as they are the ones who drive what is covered and how it is covered. Ratings is king and management will give the marketplace what it wants, and to a large degree these days people want balloon boy and OJ type "news stories".
You're right...ratings is king and all media do is to try to wrest attention from their media competitors by over blowing what's really happening in the news...in order to capture more viewers, listeners, readers..then the other media...their competition.
It's about how big an audience they can drum up through jacking up the 'story'...
It's not necessarily about media seeking and presenting the truth ...it's about telling their potential advertisers that if they advertise with their particular media outlet...they will reach more potential consumers than other media outlets...
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chuckster11
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Because "Freedom of Speech" was written into the foundation documents that created the Republic, the "news" has pretty much been from biased sources and has always been presented, whether printed or electronic in a biased manner--reflecting the particular viewpoint of the owner (s), editorial staff, or preferences of the advertisers.
Tho it is comforting to think that some of us lived in a time when the news and news presenters were unbiased, that really hasn't been the case. Almost every president in our history has had problems with some parts of the press and has tried to wrest control over the information from that hostile press.
Everything old is always new again when it comes to politics and the media.
Television news is a bit different, as was suggested back in the late 50's, the "Medium is the message" which specifically relates to how television can create "news" where no information of importance really exists for the viewer--the business with the "Balloon Boy" being a good example. Therefore, I try to be a little careful with television news reports to make sure that the media isn't creating the news rather than simply reporting it.
Other than that, I, like so many people, try to find outlets that satisfy my own sets of beliefs and prejudices and I can usually find what I need.
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JIMNLIN
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I don't do radio talk shows where the host just rants/bashes which isn't a legit news sourse anyway.
I'd like to see news without the so called FOX Babes types in short skirts and low cut sweaters. Nice to look at but Not much credibility there. To many just pretty faces in so called news programs.
I'd like a news program that can give news without any political comments.
I want more in depth reporting instead of so many 15 second spots for a quickie article. As Cronkite said we don't have reporters that do the in depth reporting anymore as their to much into the "gotcha's" as our cable type news programs are now. To many programs on the air with to many so called reporters that beat a real breaking news item to death 24/7. How many times did we see the Airbus land in the river the first 24 hours. Then the news seems to want the victems on the air 24/7 asking the same old question "how did it feel" or "how do you describe what went on".
TV news needs to get back to the basics of giving the national/international news a couple of times a day and stay out of the whats called the spin and black helicopters and.......... other hystrical nonsense every hour on the hour, IMO.
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Jacksons
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the truth would be a pleasant change
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chuckster11
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Jacksons wrote:the truth would be a pleasant change
Sure would, but the problem is that when you deal with probabilities, one man's truth is another man's lie.
Asking for the "truth" from the media is assigning them far more sagacity than any human possesses. Let's just ask for them to be a little less biased and a bit more accurate with their reporting.
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lwmuddy
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chuckster11 wrote:Jacksons wrote:the truth would be a pleasant change
Sure would, but the problem is that when you deal with probabilities, one man's truth is another man's lie.
Asking for the "truth" from the media is assigning them far more sagacity than any human possesses. Let's just ask for them to be a little less biased and a bit more accurate with their reporting.
Being Biased is where the money comes from and what viewer knows from accuracy. Unless you were personally on the scene of a story then you can't be sure.
We trust a little too much in too many.
When a News program puts on a Rock and Roll celebrity as a knowledgeable political advisor then they are going a little too far just to get YOU to watch.
Watching TV News is like a trip to Disneyland and Fantasyland, but with commercials.
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No news is good news
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JIMNLIN
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Truth and lies sounds political as its just this mans or a certain groups biased opinion.
We need more presenting the news without political opinion. I'm not the least bit interested in a liberal or a conservative view point on any subject. I can think for myself.
Certain program news is given in a certain slant or only certain events that may not even in main stream news. Its called saturation. Those programs should be called intertainment.
To many so called cable news programs out there that beat a subject to death day after day. Then on the other hand a news program will give a 10 minute presentation on a serious non political subject and there is no follow up. The Wall Street debacle that got us in that mess is mentioned but no one wants to find out who did it and how to keep it from happening again. Even the crude oil stock price debacle.
The Bernie Madoff thing is another example off the press not digging in depth to find out who his cohorts actually are, all of them and not just who the justice department says as their controlled by political/wall street pressure.
Just gimme' the news please.
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