Vinman02

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Hi there,
How do you guys and gals keep your TT batteries charged when you have it in storage?
When returning from a boondooking trip the trailer goes straight to the storge yard and there is no power available. I do not have the option of taking the trailer home to charge for more than an hour or two.
I have 6 volt batteries and they are quite a pain to remove/install because of their location on the tongue behind the propane tanks (the body of the trailer is sloped forward almost covering the battery box).
I usually run the generator for a couple of hours during the last morning of camping and then the truck provides a charge (very little I'm sure) during the 2 hour drive home.
Any other options other than removing the batteries? Maybe a small solar panel while in storage?
Any opinions are welcome.
Vince
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they might be a pain to remove and take home to charge, so what, you will have to remove them to replace once they go dead and not recover. so do it now and save yourself some money.
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SCVJeff

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I was gonna suggest the "Duh" answer (Solar) until I saw your location... 
Probably better to pull em' and keep them warm for the winter.
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skipnchar

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Just charge them before storing and remove the negative lead from the batteries. they should maintain their charge for at least three or four months with no charge once they're isolated from any draw on them. when I winter in Texas my daily driver vehicles both sit in my dirveway with nothing charging the batteries and I've NEVER had a battery problem when I return in the spring.
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Vinman02

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The batteries are currently sitting in my heated garage fully charged and will be until next camping season.
I have no problems with removing and installing them at the end and beginning of the seasons but every other weekend will be a big pain.
My question was refering to when I'm using the trailer during the camping season. The trailer typically sits for about 2-3 weeks at a time in the storage yard. I did install a battery disconnect switch and use it when the trailer sits in storage.
And I know it ain't SoCa but we do get bit of sun during our 2 week Summers...
I was thinking of the small cheapo solar panels that clip directly to the battery of plug into a cigarette lighter plug.
Vince
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I use a 15 Watt solar panel and charge controller that I got at Canadian Tire to keep the coach batteries on My Class A charged while in storage. This size panel works pretty well as a trickle charger. The charge controller connects the solar panel to the batteries at 13 VDC and disconnects at 14.2 VDC. A charge controller is recommended for a 15 Watt (or above solar panel). From what I understand a fully charged battery (not under load or being charged) will sit at about 12.7 VDC. I have found that the charge controller LED's cycle between charging and charged and the battery voltage is usually around 13.5 VDC.
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Small solar panel is not going to hack it to actually recharge. You need to think 100+ watts and a controller for solar. My 15w panel barely holds 13.4 volts on the battery after fully charging at home or with the generator. If I take mine back with a low battery I go back within a week and run the gen unattended until it runs out of fuel.
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Hi Vinman02,
The recommended minimum for solar charging is 60 watts per 100 amp-hours of storage. For charging purposes, there is not much point in going above about 130 watts per 100 amp-hours.
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My old RV which lived in Regina for seven years survived with just 30 watts of solar for 250 amp-hours of storage. YMMV.
Vinman02 wrote: Hi there,
How do you guys and gals keep your TT batteries charged when you have it in storage?
When returning from a boondooking trip the trailer goes straight to the storge yard and there is no power available. I do not have the option of taking the trailer home to charge for more than an hour or two.
I have 6 volt batteries and they are quite a pain to remove/install because of their location on the tongue behind the propane tanks (the body of the trailer is sloped forward almost covering the battery box).
I usually run the generator for a couple of hours during the last morning of camping and then the truck provides a charge (very little I'm sure) during the 2 hour drive home.
Any other options other than removing the batteries? Maybe a small solar panel while in storage?
Any opinions are welcome.
Vince
Regards, Don
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DeweyClawson

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I have 2 45 watt solar panels to keep 4 6v golf cart batts topped up. No controller. Permanent mount digital vm shows 13.3v when the sun is out. These are the size panels that just cover the air cond, where they are mounted.
If you do this, wire them directly to the batts, bypassing the shutoff sw.
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Hi DeweyClawson,
Because there is no charge controller the "effective" wattage is probably only about 60 watts instead of 90. That's about 15 watts per 100 amp hours and right on the "limit" of whether a charge controller should be used or not. All that is saving you is that there are only 5 peak hours per day.
If you added a good MPPT charge controller that would bump back up to nearly 90 watts. If you do decide to "go for it"--pick an MPPT unit that can handle 50 amps of input.
DeweyClawson wrote: I have 2 45 watt solar panels to keep 4 6v golf cart batts topped up. No controller. Permanent mount digital vm shows 13.3v when the sun is out. These are the size panels that just cover the air cond, where they are mounted.
If you do this, wire them directly to the batts, bypassing the shutoff sw.
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