What I learned about new big DPs at the Tampa RV show.

[Ivylog]

It's been a while since I've been to a RV show. O M Goodness, I thought Prevost and Newell DPs were the only ones on the heavy side with 365/70/22.5 tires... NOT. There were even Newmar Dutch Stars with 365s, not just the Mountain Airs with 365s. 54,000 GVWR and 8K of CCC = 46,000 dry weight with a front axle pushing 20K lbs. The pressure needed for the 365s on the front was listed at 125 psi, the 315s on the drive at 85, and the tag at 115. At least Tiffin has moved the fuel tank to in front of the drive axle letting them use 305s all the way around.

The majority of the big rigs were bath and a half which I do not understand taking up that much area for something we do not use that much... different strokes for...... There were also too many with not only dark exteriors but dark interiors... not that I'm looking to buy plus the show prices were all $400K or more.

[Mile_High]

Ivylog wrote:

Mile High wrote:

Ivylog wrote:
Take up all that room and then you can't use it. Thanks for adding another reason why I don't want a bath and half as we boondock often.

Wow - folks get nasty about how many friggen bathrooms they have or want. Jeezoots! I guess at some point the majority of Class A owners are just old grumps. :B

Not sure what was "nasty" about my post... or anyone's else I did thank you for pointing out something I'd not thought about... higher water usage or often two sewer outlets if one is not a grinding toilet. The size and location of the waste tanks would be interesting to know.

I think the whole general tone of this thread is getting a little nasty, so maybe I read tone into your text. I tried to make a positive benefit, and you quickly turned it into a negative. That was all.

[Ivylog]

Mile High wrote:

Ivylog wrote:
Take up all that room and then you can't use it. Thanks for adding another reason why I don't want a bath and half as we boondock often.

Wow - folks get nasty about how many friggen bathrooms they have or want. Jeezoots! I guess at some point the majority of Class A owners are just old grumps. :B

Not sure what was "nasty" about my post... or anyone's else I did thank you for pointing out something I'd not thought about... higher water usage or often two sewer outlets if one is not a grinding toilet. The size and location of the waste tanks would be interesting to know.

[tropical36]

ro_sie wrote:
I need to say here, We looked for a bath and half. We had some medical issues recently in our family ( colon cancer) and when nature calls, she needs to be answered immediately. That extra potty is worth its weight in gold to my fella. We always plan for at least one of those bathrooms to be available to him. So, heres my advice. If you don't want one, don't get one. If you want that extra potty, get it. Its preference and need folks. I hate the reverse snootiness that's coming across here.

The way I see it and need it or not, it doesn't take up all that much room in our 41ft floor plan. Just like a bunk model I saw a while back and thought what a great place for temp. storage, whether one ever needs the bunks or not. When daughter, hubby and kid come along, for a few days, there's plenty of sleeping room, as it is, but they always have a couple of suitcases that get in the way. The extra 1/2 bath comes in really handy with this scenario, but not like it doesn't get a lot of use anyway and sure do like the full one back on my side of the bed. In fact, with having a bedroom door, there's really no need to shut the bath door. Like I said, things were fine before, but we're not going back now. Also will continue to tow, which we didn't do for some years. Come to think of it, it's doubtful we'll ever go back to a gas puller, either and even though, I had many doubts about having them before.

[ro_sie]

I need to say here, We looked for a bath and half. We had some medical issues recently in our family ( colon cancer) and when nature calls, she needs to be answered immediately. That extra potty is worth its weight in gold to my fella. We always plan for at least one of those bathrooms to be available to him. So, heres my advice. If you don't want one, don't get one. If you want that extra potty, get it. Its preference and need folks. I hate the reverse snootiness that's coming across here.

[Bumpyroad]

hey, there has to be a pecking order for "status". If I ever get another Class A it is going to be a dual engine diesel with three tag axles. Oh, also with 4 bathrooms, "4 potties, no waiting". take that you peons
bumpy

[Tom_Barb]

Mile High wrote:

Wow - folks get nasty about how many friggen bathrooms they have or want. Jeezoots! I guess at some point the majority of Class A owners are just old grumps. :B

Hey!! I resemble that remark..

[Mile_High]

Ivylog wrote:
Take up all that room and then you can't use it. Thanks for adding another reason why I don't want a bath and half as we boondock often.

A: they don't take up room (on my model), they extend the length with 2 bathrooms.

B: I can use it (Tecma), its just nice not to have to if I don't want when boondocking.

Wow - folks get nasty about how many friggen bathrooms they have or want. Jeezoots! I guess at some point the majority of Class A owners are just old grumps. :B

[doxiemom11]

We wouldn't use more than 1 bath and also would not like the rear bath when traveling. We have a mid bath now and really like it. We will update our 17 yr old gasser rather than purchase a new that's filled with things we don't want, not will use. Buy quality the first time and you can make it last a long long time.

[Ivylog]

Take up all that room and then you can't use it. Thanks for adding another reason why I don't want a bath and half as we boondock often.

[Mile_High]

tropical36 wrote:

Mile High wrote:
Probably irrelevant, but on our 1-1/2 baths, the rear is a Tecma maceration and the front is gravity. I've found that when dry camping it's nice to have the option to use the gravity only to extend your stay a bit.

Good point for those who have them, like us and those suckers do use up the water, don't they?

yeppers 🙂

[tropical36]

Mile High wrote:
Probably irrelevant, but on our 1-1/2 baths, the rear is a Tecma maceration and the front is gravity. I've found that when dry camping it's nice to have the option to use the gravity only to extend your stay a bit.

Good point for those who have them, like us and those suckers do use up the water, don't they?

[Mile_High]

Probably irrelevant, but on our 1-1/2 baths, the rear is a Tecma maceration and the front is gravity. I've found that when dry camping it's nice to have the option to use the gravity only to extend your stay a bit.

[ro_sie]

Only 0ne comment here; Don't knock the bath and a half until you have used one.

[tropical36]

With all these posts and comments, I will have to say that I am somewhat old school with my preferences.
We still have an elect/gas hot water tank.
Two overhead heat pumps.
Two gas fired forced air furnaces.
Gas cook top and oven, as well as micro/convection.
We also like our solid cherry wood cabinetry, corian and cedar lined closets, which should go without saying.
The last of CAT's slobber tube engines and above all, no adding of DEF with every so many fuel stops. Nope, we don't own the greenest one on the planet, but we're not about to junk it on that account, either.