โFeb-14-2017 08:51 PM
โFeb-27-2017 09:20 AM
transamz9 wrote:Not in Nevada.. we don't need any special lisence... used to ... not now tho...moresmoke wrote:LarryJM wrote:demiles wrote:
The only one I've seen was down in NC leaving ZMAX dragway and wasn't the normal trailer/fifth wheel. I was following a friend pulling a 30Ft racecar trailer with living quarters and he was pulled over and weighed. He was over his registered GVWR and received a fined which was $150 I think. They told him he was considered commercial because he received money and or products for competing. He also had the usual product stickers all over the side of the trailer.
Over the years I've also read more than a handful of first hand posts usually from Pa concerning weight and or registration fines with these race car trailers with all the advertising and even some where because they could win $$$ they were considered commercial rigs.
Larry
The most common test of this I have heard of is: If you are guaranteed money for showing up at the event - then you would be considered commercial. You are being paid as a performer.
Now some states interpret these rules to their own likes. The 10,000 lb trailer rule is one. Some states have it worded as a trailer over 10000 and GVW over 26000. Others use a trailer over 10000 or GVW over 26000.
I run around to motorsports events in the summer, if I ever get accused of being commercial, I am going to start filing my expenses on my taxes. I bet the IRS will claim its a hobby!
Those numbers are the determining factor that requires one to have a CDL. To be considered commercial your GVWR or combined truck and trailer GVWR will be 10,001# and up. Our F150's and Tundra's are considered commercial as soon as one is hooked to any of our trailers. Our lightest duty trailer has a GVWR of 7'000#.
โFeb-27-2017 09:15 AM
campingken wrote:
In CA if you are involved in a multi fatal accident on the freeway the CHP MAIT (major accident investigation team) may be called to investigate. They will put all the pieces on a scale and if they determine that being over weight effected your ability to stop (and this is a cause of the accident) you could be cited. If you are grossly overweight manslaughter (causing a death due to negligence) could also come into play (especially if you wiped out several children on a school bus and it became a major story (political.)
This being said I am not aware of any actual criminal cases being filed due to an overweight RV.
โFeb-27-2017 09:12 AM
the bear II wrote:
Here's the real concern if an RV is overweight.... you and your family's safety. Not to mention the vehicles around you.
If you are involved in an accident with your RV and if the investigation determines your vehicle is over weight, whether the accident is your fault or not, the over weight condition can be considered a contributing factor. Possible liability for you and fines.
โFeb-27-2017 07:09 AM
โFeb-27-2017 03:43 AM
โFeb-26-2017 07:01 PM
โFeb-26-2017 04:33 PM
ksss wrote:blt2ski wrote:
As I understand the weight laws, one can not be jailed per say for being overweight.
Marty
That is potentially not true. When you are overweight by a small portion (cant remember the amount) it is an infraction-a fine. However if you are over the infraction amount, it becomes a misdemeanor which can absolutely get you booked into jail and in the process handcuffed. Officer discretion and department policy would likely have much to do with whether or not that actually occurred.
โFeb-26-2017 03:29 PM
blt2ski wrote:
As I understand the weight laws, one can not be jailed per say for being overweight.
Marty
โFeb-25-2017 04:05 AM
โFeb-20-2017 04:08 PM
nickthehunter wrote:
There is no way anyone ever received a ticket for being overweight. The only law regarding weight is you can not exceed 20,000 lbs per axle or 80,000 lbs gross weight. Anyone have an RV approaching either of those numbers? There is in some jurisdiction a "registration" weight. In those areas the more weight you want to tow, the higher your vehicle license plate fees. So if you want to tow more, you pay more. There is no limit to how much your can "registration" weight can be. If you didn't pay the proper vehicle license plate fee, you could be ticketed for exceeding your "registered" weight.
โFeb-18-2017 06:33 PM
โFeb-18-2017 05:01 PM
CWSWine wrote:CWSWine wrote:spoon059 wrote:CWSWine wrote:
When I sat on a jury we had to fill out form stating what factors caused an accident and one of the questions was "Was the Vehicle Operating within manufacture specs - Yes - No What percentage of cause do you assign" or sometime to those words.
Who is the manufacturer... the truck manufacturer that simply assembled the parts, or the manufacturer of the axle?
Is the axle the factor or is the frame, brakes and etc. The towing guides warns you not to exceed GVWR and GM even has page on their site not to exceed the GVWR Click Here YOu can argue all you want but you will to convince a jury of lay people that are not RVers that the warnings put out the Ford, Chevy and Ram are not a reason to go by. After sitting on a jury I will honor the manufacture specs. I don't want to spend legal fees to defend that either.
In a civil case you would have to convince a house wife that the specs on your 2500 are the same as 3500 and it is ok to exceed them even though the manufacture warns against it. While the other side shows manufacture specs that your are over weight according to the manufacture. I agree with lot or what you say and the truck will probably handle the weight I wouldn't want to be on your side of court room try to defend you position.
The jury instructions in a civil is more likely then not and the weight of each item that causes a accident is decided by the jury and over weight could 10% or 100% depends on what percentage the jury assigns to that one cause.
โFeb-18-2017 11:29 AM
โFeb-18-2017 11:13 AM