Feb-17-2017 12:13 PM
Feb-26-2017 10:11 AM
burningman wrote:
Torque management plays a big part in real-world 0-60 times, even if you powerbrake the start.
The reasons for using a particular engine brand in medium-duty trucks has more to do with corporate politics and business deals than the superiority, or perceived superiority of the engine.
If you want your truck faster, you can make it faster. If you follow the Diesel Truck Power Challenge and other competitions, you'll find the Cummins generally being the top dog.
I agree, if Dodge didn't have the Cummins, I doubt Ram trucks would even exist today. Remember when they didn't have it? They virtually didn't exist. No one bought them except some fleets because they were cheap.
I have a friend who owns a tow company. He's been running a fleet of F-350s for 30 or 40 years. He used to buy diesels until he had a new chassis on order that was taking too long, he needed one NOW, and took a gas chassis the dealer had in stock. It proved to be the most economical overall, even with the lower gas mileage. That was in 1989 and he still buys new gas Fords because they are extremely reliable and have a lower overall own/operate cost.
Personally, I'd like a Ford with a Cummins and an Allison trans!
You can build such a thing, there are even kits to put Cummins into Fords, and you can put an Allison on the Cummins. But it's not the sort of thing you just pick out on the dealer's lot and sign on the dotted line for.
Feb-26-2017 09:26 AM
Feb-26-2017 09:23 AM
blt2ski wrote:
are we done yet?
Feb-26-2017 07:50 AM
Feb-26-2017 07:10 AM
Feb-26-2017 04:20 AM
blofgren wrote:
How so? Are you insinuating that I'm lying?
I know our fleet manager very well and know exactly the reason we are going with V-10's now. And there must be a good reason Disneyland and Uhaul are doing the same......
Feb-25-2017 07:58 PM
blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:4x4ord wrote:blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I agree that if the Cummins was available in the Ford there is some who would choose it over the Powerstroke. I might....If I were to choose the Cummins it would be because I suspect it would increase the resale value of the truck. I would rather drive a Powerstroke equipped truck.....It's more powerful, quieter and I believe it has the best exhaust brake.
Why do you suspect the Cummins would increase the resale value of the truck?
A Cummins equipped Ford would be desired by both Ram and Ford people. The Powerstroke equipped Ford would have a smaller market.
Ford dropped the cummins in their medium duty trucks for a reason and their medium duty sales are on the rise with the 6.7 PSD.
Link
Most people I talk to prefer the power of the Power Strokes and Duramax over the cummins. I wouldn't be surprised that the cummins update in '19 will be an engine exclusive to ram in order to compete with the big 2.
Anyways I'm looking forward to the Ike Gauntlet tow!
Hmmmm, I was at Disneyland last week and they have a huge fleet of F-550 and F-650 shuttle buses. NONE of them were the 6.7 PSD but rather the trusty V10. I have noticed that most of the newer Ford commercial trucks around here (including Uhaul F-650's) are also V-10's. The city I work at is the same.
It seems most fleets are not taking any more chances of huge repair bills and downtime with Ford diesels.
You remind me of fake news
How so? Are you insinuating that I'm lying?
I know our fleet manager very well and know exactly the reason we are going with V-10's now. And there must be a good reason Disneyland and Uhaul are doing the same......
Feb-25-2017 07:54 PM
FishOnOne wrote:blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:4x4ord wrote:blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I agree that if the Cummins was available in the Ford there is some who would choose it over the Powerstroke. I might....If I were to choose the Cummins it would be because I suspect it would increase the resale value of the truck. I would rather drive a Powerstroke equipped truck.....It's more powerful, quieter and I believe it has the best exhaust brake.
Why do you suspect the Cummins would increase the resale value of the truck?
A Cummins equipped Ford would be desired by both Ram and Ford people. The Powerstroke equipped Ford would have a smaller market.
Ford dropped the cummins in their medium duty trucks for a reason and their medium duty sales are on the rise with the 6.7 PSD.
Link
Most people I talk to prefer the power of the Power Strokes and Duramax over the cummins. I wouldn't be surprised that the cummins update in '19 will be an engine exclusive to ram in order to compete with the big 2.
Anyways I'm looking forward to the Ike Gauntlet tow!
Hmmmm, I was at Disneyland last week and they have a huge fleet of F-550 and F-650 shuttle buses. NONE of them were the 6.7 PSD but rather the trusty V10. I have noticed that most of the newer Ford commercial trucks around here (including Uhaul F-650's) are also V-10's. The city I work at is the same.
It seems most fleets are not taking any more chances of huge repair bills and downtime with Ford diesels.
You remind me of fake news
Feb-25-2017 03:02 PM
FishOnOne wrote:
You remind me of fake news
Feb-25-2017 01:10 PM
blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:4x4ord wrote:blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I agree that if the Cummins was available in the Ford there is some who would choose it over the Powerstroke. I might....If I were to choose the Cummins it would be because I suspect it would increase the resale value of the truck. I would rather drive a Powerstroke equipped truck.....It's more powerful, quieter and I believe it has the best exhaust brake.
Why do you suspect the Cummins would increase the resale value of the truck?
A Cummins equipped Ford would be desired by both Ram and Ford people. The Powerstroke equipped Ford would have a smaller market.
Ford dropped the cummins in their medium duty trucks for a reason and their medium duty sales are on the rise with the 6.7 PSD.
Link
Most people I talk to prefer the power of the Power Strokes and Duramax over the cummins. I wouldn't be surprised that the cummins update in '19 will be an engine exclusive to ram in order to compete with the big 2.
Anyways I'm looking forward to the Ike Gauntlet tow!
Hmmmm, I was at Disneyland last week and they have a huge fleet of F-550 and F-650 shuttle buses. NONE of them were the 6.7 PSD but rather the trusty V10. I have noticed that most of the newer Ford commercial trucks around here (including Uhaul F-650's) are also V-10's. The city I work at is the same.
It seems most fleets are not taking any more chances of huge repair bills and downtime with Ford diesels.
Feb-25-2017 01:03 PM
FishOnOne wrote:4x4ord wrote:blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I agree that if the Cummins was available in the Ford there is some who would choose it over the Powerstroke. I might....If I were to choose the Cummins it would be because I suspect it would increase the resale value of the truck. I would rather drive a Powerstroke equipped truck.....It's more powerful, quieter and I believe it has the best exhaust brake.
Why do you suspect the Cummins would increase the resale value of the truck?
A Cummins equipped Ford would be desired by both Ram and Ford people. The Powerstroke equipped Ford would have a smaller market.
Ford dropped the cummins in their medium duty trucks for a reason and their medium duty sales are on the rise with the 6.7 PSD.
Link
Most people I talk to prefer the power of the Power Strokes and Duramax over the cummins. I wouldn't be surprised that the cummins update in '19 will be an engine exclusive to ram in order to compete with the big 2.
Anyways I'm looking forward to the Ike Gauntlet tow!
Feb-25-2017 11:45 AM
patriotgrunt wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Me Again wrote:camp-n-family wrote:
So if they buy Rams for the Cummins and GMs for handling and good looks, what do they buy Fords for?
Blind faith!
Perhaps "Made in the USA" by an American company has something to do with it.
Link
Cool video! Thanks...I love truck VINs that start with 1. :W
Feb-25-2017 11:42 AM
Me Again wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
My take away from your comment is you're a bit butt hurt and it shows. :W
Nope, RAM seat is as comfortable as can be! To hot, I push seat cool button, to cold and I push the warmer button. Truck automagically does that for me in extreme weather situations.
Chris
Feb-25-2017 11:20 AM
4x4ord wrote:blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I agree that if the Cummins was available in the Ford there is some who would choose it over the Powerstroke. I might....If I were to choose the Cummins it would be because I suspect it would increase the resale value of the truck. I would rather drive a Powerstroke equipped truck.....It's more powerful, quieter and I believe it has the best exhaust brake.
Why do you suspect the Cummins would increase the resale value of the truck?
A Cummins equipped Ford would be desired by both Ram and Ford people. The Powerstroke equipped Ford would have a smaller market.