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Fumoto valve install

busyguy
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I read somewhere that you can change to a Fumoto valve when your oil pan is full by applying suction to the oil filler tube and then remove the normal drain plug and replace it with the Fumoto valve.
I have a new fumoto valve and need to change my oil and would like to do it the easy way and drain the old oil into jugs I already have.
Is this really true. Hate to try it and get oil everywhere.
Thanks for your comments
Busyguy
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Cummins12V98
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Grit dog wrote:
3 pages later, just drain the oil and then put in the valve.


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Grit_dog
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3 pages later, just drain the oil and then put in the valve.
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CavemanCharlie
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Humm, back in the day of carburetor vehicles I don't know if it would be Completely safe. If the carb ran to rich and filled the pan with some gas then the gas fumes would be sucked up by the vacuum and KABOOM.

Some vacuums use part of the exhaust gas from the vacuum to cool the motor.

I heard of something like that happening once. I think it was on a episode of an old radio show called Car Talk.

djousma
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It will probably work, but I'd work quickly. Leave that vacuum on the oil fill too long, and you may suck the oil right up into the vacuum!
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richardcoxid
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A number of years ago I had a dealer do it (used the shop vacuum) when the brass gasket on the drain plug cracked. Worked perfectly.

I would recommend NOT using your wife's house vacuum. Use your shop!

So I would say that the first time I saw it done was on my vehicle at least 25 years ago! KEEP the end of the vacuum hose TIGHT against the oil fill until after the Fumoto/drain plug is reinstated!
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fj12ryder
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coolbreeze01 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
^^^^Only $20 for the labor, but what do they charge for the parts? ๐Ÿ™‚ It's pretty much a given that shops make a lot of their money from the parts price markup.


I furnished the oil, filter was $13 plus they grease, top off fluids, check the tires, brakes and batteries. OTD for $33.
Not too bad, but don't forget to include the cost of the oil in that price. Figure 3 gallons at $13/gallon, and that works out to around $75. Not a bad price, not super cheap, but a pretty good price, especially for a dealer.
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CavemanCharlie
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Oh so that's what that is called ! We have one on our farm's combine. It is quite nice !! (The one on the combine is a little bent because we could not figure out how to open it the first time.)

I think that I would wait until after the oil change and then install it. But, that's just me.

coolbreeze01
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fj12ryder wrote:
^^^^Only $20 for the labor, but what do they charge for the parts? ๐Ÿ™‚ It's pretty much a given that shops make a lot of their money from the parts price markup.


I furnished the oil, filter was $13 plus they grease, top off fluids, check the tires, brakes and batteries. OTD for $33.
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Ron3rd
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Go ahead, let us know how it turns out.


X2. Would love to hear the results.
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fpresto
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The idea of using a shop vacuum at the oil fill hole while removing the drain plug is nothing new. I first saw it done at least 30 years ago and am sure that wasn't the first time it was done. In that case it was to replace a seeping plug but it worked well.
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fj12ryder
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^^^^Only $20 for the labor, but what do they charge for the parts? ๐Ÿ™‚ It's pretty much a given that shops make a lot of their money from the parts price markup.
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coolbreeze01
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Even my Ram dealer only charges $20 labor for an oil change and will install the Fumoto.
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golf_bears
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Forgot to mentioned that my TV holds 15 quarts of oil. So once the plug was pulled it needed a large container to catch all the oil. That's why I went to Wal-Mart for the first oil change. Now it's easy with the Fumoto valve and 4 milk jugs.

fj12ryder
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Yep, Fumoto is da bomb.

And I think I'd just drain the oil and install the plug at that point. If you go with the vacuum, which FWIW just sounds like a bad idea, keep that drain pan handy JIC, like rhagfo advised. ๐Ÿ™‚
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