E 85

[Tom_Barb]

Avoided a big mistake today. Stopped by the Station to fuel up, saw the new GREEN tanks and pumps they had installed, thinking they were diesel. I pulled into the lane, but when I tried to figure out what E-85 was So I allowed a little bit to drain out of the hose to see what it was... It sure ain't diesel.

Come to find out it is the new corn oil based fuel. NOT for #2 diesel.

[wa8yxm]

Ok, but my real point was that colors are meaningless when it comes to the handle

Now the color of the LIQUID.. That is important.. It indicates the grade and that Road Tax is charged.

[Mile_High]

wa8yxm wrote:
Be aware that though GREEN generally means Diesel.. NOT ALWAYS, there is no "Standard" that is enforced (There is a standard and you'd be surprised at what it is, but it is not enforced.. it has also changed since I was a teen, Oh, the code for Gasoline is still RED (Flamable as I recall) but the code for Diesel has changed (Believe it or not that is inflamable.. I do know the difference)

Flammable and Inflammable mean the same thing. Diesel fuel is combustible, not flammable. The flashpoint of diesel is above the flammable threshold of 100 degrees.

[wa8yxm]

Be aware that though GREEN generally means Diesel.. NOT ALWAYS, there is no "Standard" that is enforced (There is a standard and you'd be surprised at what it is, but it is not enforced.. it has also changed since I was a teen, Oh, the code for Gasoline is still RED (Flamable as I recall) but the code for Diesel has changed (Believe it or not that is inflamable.. I do know the difference)

As an example.. BP, British Petrolum (Bought out Standard Oil/American Oil) all the hoses are green, it's the company color, they are trying to make you think they are environmentally friendly. So they color EVERYTHING Green.

Same with the E-85 Pumps. they are trying to make you think that E-85 is more environmentally friendly. Alas. I have a degree in science (not an imressive one but still something to hang on the wall) and I do research for fun (Much more impressive) so I know that E-xx fuels are worse for the environment than pure gasoline, but hey... There are better alternatives.. Just not in production.

[Mile_High]

Yep- $900 mistake for me trusting the handle colors. Not only did I fill the pickup with gasoline, it was premium gasoline. Set the green handle back and noticed a yellow one next to it that said "diesel". Fortunately I never turned the key on the truck, just had it towed to Ford.

[Terryallan]

What ever color it is. don't put that E85 gas in ANY vehicle. Less power, and less mileage

[Bill_Satellite]

Yes, if I understand your statement/question, there are people who buy fuel based upon color. Did you not read the OP's post? He nearly put the wrong fuel in his RV entirely based upon the color of the fuel handle. The fuel industry has taught us what color means what and yet some ignorant fuel station owners put the wrong color handle covers in place despite knowing they are not doing the right thing.....or are they..... or do they not understand due to language, ignorance or simply not giving a "poop".
As to the rant part, you may be partially correct. Let's do a quick survey of those running the fuel station where you last fueled up. For me, it was a Shell station in Houston, TX where I was able to roll my car into when it threw a serpentine belt. When I asked the lady behind the counter if she knew a mechanic she just shook her head. I asked if she knew if there were any auto repair facilities nearby and she shook her head. I asked what exit we were at off I-45 and she shook her head. I don't know what she did know but maybe she could have told me if the gum was included in the 2-for-1 candy special.

[Ductape]

Bill.Satellite wrote:
What I can't figure out is that a Green handle or a Yellow handle or a Black handle has to cost the exact same amount. So, why in the World do you not have the right color on the right nozzle? Are you really so that stupid and if so, how did you manage to become an fuel station owner? Minority / Female / Refugee owner? Not sure but it must be something!

Nice little rant. And somehow majority male residents can afford motorhomes yet fail at reading comprehension.

Anyone buys fuel by color...

[Bill_Satellite]

What I can't figure out is that a Green handle or a Yellow handle or a Black handle has to cost the exact same amount. So, why in the World do you not have the right color on the right nozzle? Are you really so that stupid and if so, how did you manage to become an fuel station owner? Minority / Female / Refugee owner? Not sure but it must be something!

[Mr_Mark1]

Bill.Satellite wrote:
The E-85 nozzles are "supposed" to be Yellow but they are not always. That's just bad management at the fuel station! If the station doesn't actually sell diesel it's not unusual to find Green handles.

Yes Bill, you are right. My local BP station that does not sell diesel has the 'premium' handle in green. I cringe every time I use it and check and recheck myself.

LOL!

MM.

[Bill_Satellite]

The E-85 nozzles are "supposed" to be Yellow but they are not always. That's just bad management at the fuel station! If the station doesn't actually sell diesel it's not unusual to find Green handles.

[gbopp]

Good thing you caught it. That could have ruined your day, and engine.

[RoyF]

I thought that E-85 hose handles are yellow, and diesel hose handles are green. Maybe that's not true everywhere.

[Goldencrazy]

Have you been. In a deep sleep? It has been around for a long time. I do understand however having filled a car in Paris with gasoil. What did I know? Your experience was much less costly than mine.