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The dreaded code 36

ljr869
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Explorer
Onan Marquis Gold 5500 runs for 3 to 10 minutes then surges and dies. Code 36 means it shut down without being told to. Plenty of clean fuel, just changed fuel filter, pump primes, clean air filter, proper oil level. I'm guessing it's carburetor related seeing as it occurs once it gets to operating temp. That's a bit above my expertise so into the shop it goes.
Jim
2009 Fleetwood Bounder 35H
Ford V-10 w/ Banks
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bobkatmsu
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Glad you found the problem. I have the same generator and I have had it happen twice that the generator would run for 15-30 minutes and then shut off with the same code as yours. Both times the oil had been changed recently and the proper amount, 2 quarts had been added. In both situations I drained about a quarter of a quart of oil out and that resolved the issue. I know now to only put in 1.75 quarts when changing the oil. I just make sure I check the level often.
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wynnd
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Explorer
Replacing the fuel pump should solve your problem.....
2007 Fleetwood Terra 34N X2 w/bunks

ljr869
Explorer
Explorer
It was the pump.
Jim
2009 Fleetwood Bounder 35H
Ford V-10 w/ Banks

ljr869
Explorer
Explorer
Yeah, I have a new pump and, on paper, seems a simple job but it's a bit tight in there for my hands so I'll let the shop do it while they look at some others things as well.
Jim
2009 Fleetwood Bounder 35H
Ford V-10 w/ Banks

bounder39zman
Explorer II
Explorer II
It is logical to think that if pump works while priming, then it is not
the problem. However, there is a component in pump that fails when it gets hot (on certain pumps) Airtex does make this pump for Onan. You can get from NAPA. Onan part # is A047N929. From my experience as an ONAN tech (30+years) Your symptoms indicate bad pump, or ...hopefully not....control board. Since pump is 1/4 cost of board, that would be first step. I have had control boards, when they get hot, break down and quit supplying voltage to pump.

mfox20
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Explorer
As others have said it is probably the fuel pump. One other easy test is disconnect the fuel line coming to the pump, install a short fuel line from the pump inlet to a gas can. You only need 3 feet or so of fuel line. If it continues to run with no symptoms, you may have a cracked fuel line coming from the gas tank. I chased this same issue on my 2000 Onan 5500 for several weeks before finding the cracked fuel line. It always seemed to be worse in hot weather and I thought I was having a vapor lock issue.

Not expensive or very hard to run the new line. Mine had a couple of metal sections on the run and I replaced all of the line including the metal with new rubber fuel hose. I tried just replacing the rubber sections and it would still quit running. I have not had any issues since.
Michael

2000 Holiday Rambler Endeavor Gasser
2013 Honda CR-V Toad

Heisenberg
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Explorer
Now that you brought up heat mine has an altitude adjustment. After about 30 minutes on the road mine would shut off. After cooling it would restart. After changing fuel pump (with Airtex by the way) and not having any changes I backed the Altitude adjustment to 2000 feet with it being 3400 feet where I live. Wow, I have never had another problem. A mechanical seat like this happens to be with a screw and an altitude label may not match up exactly. Heat expansion starved my Generator even as I went up in altitude. Might help you too.
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ljr869
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Explorer
It's air-cooled by the way. I did buy a replacement fuel pump (Airtex) as well as an Onan tune-up kit, the fuel and air filters of which I've used. I figured if the fuel pump works while priming, which it does, then it works. It's odd that temperature would be a factor. I'll read up on replacement procedure and see if I can tackle it as I do have good access to the underside.
Jim
2009 Fleetwood Bounder 35H
Ford V-10 w/ Banks

bounder39zman
Explorer II
Explorer II
agree with other posts, most likely fuel pump. Onan has published
service bulletins on this, and these pumps have relatively high
failure rates. Retail price on pump is around $100, and pretty easy replacement if you have access to bottom of genset

wynnd
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Explorer
Same thing happened to my 2007....replacing the fuel pump did the trick.

Good Luck!
2007 Fleetwood Terra 34N X2 w/bunks

WyoTraveler
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Explorer
My generator would shut down. Then when cool run again normal. Fuel pump was shuting down when hot. Replaced fuel pump solved the problem. Apparently a problem because of where fuel pump is mounted.

YC_1
Nomad
Nomad
If it has a radiator did you replace the coolant? If so, could be air in the system letting it get hot. Just a thought.
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