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RE: fifth wheel backing trouble

I dont see how a different hitch is going to buy you a whole bunch. If there is clearance to make it around the corner it really shouldn't be that difficult to get good at it. You don't have to do it all in one motion.... you can pull ahead a couple feet while cutting the steering tires to increase or decrease your angle of artiiculation as needed.
4x4ord 06/01/20 04:10am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Should we buy a Ford 5th Wheel Hitch?

I would go with the B&W hitch. I really appreciate how easy it is to connect and disconnect with the B&W. It is a very well built and well designed hitch. Does your 5ver have an air ride pin box? If not you might want to consider the more expensive Hensley Trailer Saver or an AirSafe hitch.
4x4ord 05/31/20 04:39am Tow Vehicles
RE: Best Fiver these days

If we wanted quality over gadgets and gimmicks I think we'd see more Airstreams and less of almost everything else out there. Everyone complains about the terrible workmanship in the RV industry but very few are willing to pay for quality.
4x4ord 05/28/20 07:09am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Best Fiver these days

I “must” take a differing view on Lippert frames! They “may” build to the manufacuring specifications.....but, they have been plagued with quality control issues. These issues have “zero” to do with manufacturing specifications!!! memtb Its funny to hear I have zero issues, when weld quality can raise its ugly head on any unit , including the high end such as the Mobile suites. Building specs having nothing to do with the quality of the weld, if it's poorly welded its coming apart . Its hard to understand ,why we get to hear ,I have had zero issues, well that sure doesn't make the person or persons that are having the issues feel any better . Just because one doesn't have an issue, doesn't mean others didn't or couldn't . You're right that one person having zero issues doesn't mean a lot but the DRV frame is stronger by design than most other 5vers out there. I think you'd have a hard time comming up with any stories of DRV frame failures.
4x4ord 05/27/20 04:02am Fifth-Wheels
RE: 06 dodge ram 2500 SB. Golf cart in bed

Maybe you could remove the tailgate, lay a 4x4 on the bumper and screw a plywood floor to it to extend the truck bed enough for the cart.
4x4ord 05/26/20 01:42am Tow Vehicles
RE: Best Fiver these days

“If” money is no object......New Horizons, out of Kansas! Their Summit line is still head and shoulders above most anything else....and somewhat affordable. If you will consider buying used.....they get a lot more affordable! memtbMost people say they want the best until they hear the price. The trouble with most high end products is devaluation. If you purchase a New Horizon, Rolls-Royce or Bentley 5 years down the road you have lost a heck of a lot of money. This can be a advantage to buying used. I think the CEO of Keystone said it best, (We build more Montana's in a week than New Horizon builds in a year). Most people will purchase a new (affordable) rather then a used late model High end trailer. Most people don't even know the difference. Don't believe me, look at the answer's that think low end trailers are high end. Depreciation on a 250,000 unit is definitely going to bother some. The other thing that makes a high end fiver less desirable for some is the weight. With quality comes weight. I think one of the smallest Continental Coach 5vers weighed about 26,000 lbs empty... New Horizons is likely .considerably less.
4x4ord 05/26/20 12:04am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Best Fiver these days

New Horizons; Luxe; Grand Design; DRV; Artic Fox are brands I would look at.... maybe Redwood. The companies that build higher quality can't seem to compete with the cheaper built manufacturers and end up shutting down. I would have liked to buy a Continental Coach in a couple years so was disappointed to hear of their closing up.
4x4ord 05/24/20 11:22am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Double towing

I vote for no double towing, especially big rigs. Hire another driver. We need to put Americans back to work. Besides I feel they are much more dangerous. Why not 100 trailers behind one freaking powerful semi? Because it's dangerous. You "feel" double towing is much more dangerous. If you had some experience towing double with a suitable set up you'd "know" double towing can be very safe.
4x4ord 05/24/20 12:09am Fifth-Wheels
RE: 5th wheel verses travel trailer

Are you asking whether a fiver can carry more stuff than a similar sized TT or are you asking if a pickup can carry more weight on a fifth wheel than it can on a rear ball hitch?
4x4ord 05/23/20 09:05am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Rig for two couples?

I think a class A dp pulling a toy hauler with a couple of Goldwings in the garage could work quite nicely.
4x4ord 05/23/20 07:35am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Double towing

I have towed doubles (have my endorsement from the state of MI) only in my home state, which allows for Fifth wheels ONLY. With that said, I know I am in violation of the overall length (crew cab long box, 32' fifth, and a 18' boat) puts me around 74' total. I haven't been stopped yet and I try not to do it frequently. Only up north to take the camper and boat up in the spring, and in the fall to bring them back. I have a solid setup with all safety considerations in place (safety chains, solid hitch on the fifth, lights all work). By the way, it tows like a dream... And it would tow like a dream in BC or Washington as well. Do you have working brakes on the second trailer?
4x4ord 05/21/20 02:54pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Double towing

Why does it have to be "a cop having a bad day" to enforce the law? Please explain to this retired police sergeant why I would be having a bad day for doing what I'm paid to do, for doing my job? Here in AZ double towing is legal if the the lead trailer is a 5th wheel. I recently saw a truck pulling a bumper pull trailer pulling a bumper pull trailer in violation of AZ law. If I was still a cop I most definitely would have pulled that person over and dealt with the violation. I'm not saying an automatic ticket but I wouldn't let it go by. I wasn't the type of cop to let things go by. I'm not a cop but I think if I was I'd feel more like a terrorist if I was pulling over people for breaking laws that don't make any sense.
4x4ord 05/20/20 06:32pm Fifth-Wheels
Double towing

Even if I don't agree with a law I can usually at least understand the reasoning behind why a law is put in place, but, the no double towing law that BC and some states have is something I can't even imagine a reason for? Does the no double towing law actually get enforced? Have any of you who double tow successfully double towed across no double tow states without being ticketed? Has anyone been ticketed for trying?
4x4ord 05/20/20 03:43am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Water in Fuel? When Do You Drain the Filter?

I think periodic fuel filter changes is a waste of time and money. If you get dirty fuel the new filter will plug almost immediately.... if the fuel you get is clean your filters will last for years. Some of my diesel engines haven't seen a filter change in 15 years. I change my fuel filters if I notice a lack of power or when the fuel restriction gauge shows a problem.
4x4ord 05/20/20 02:57am Tow Vehicles
RE: Water in Fuel? When Do You Drain the Filter?

I've had a water in fuel light come on once. I pulled over immediately and drained the primary filter. If you get fuel with water in it there is no way of knowing how much water you got .... In the rare instances that a water in fuel light comes on I would recommend pulling over immediately. Draining your filter periodically is a waste of time in my opinion. If there is water in the filter bowl the light should be on. If there is no water in the bowl why are you draining it?
4x4ord 05/18/20 07:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Anybody ever buy a truck with a salvage title?

I believe once a vehicle is branded salvage it can't be registered until it gets a rebuilt title. To be branded rebuilt it has to pass a pretty extensive inspection. The vehicle you're looking at is likely got a rebuilt title.
4x4ord 05/11/20 04:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: New Truck 4x4 or 4x2 ??

This is a RV forum. In the context of using the truck for the movement of the RV, how many have actually NEEDED to use 4WD & how often? IMO the biggest decision is whether to get a SRW or a DRW. The difference will be appreciated everytime the trailer goes on the back. I have a 2WD DRW. It is a whole lot nicer than basic work truck trim. Absolutely love the truck. Yes, I have been stuck a few times with the trailer on the back. Each time has been at a special event not using a normal CG. Each time I was able to either get myself out or the event had machinery there to pull people out. I was not alone. There were plenty with 4X4s getting stuck. What I wish I could have over a 4X4 is a locking diff. All that weight over locked DRW has to make a huge difference over power to one rear wheel & a lightly loaded front wheel. You'd think a locking diff would make a difference but I find it to be useless. With my pick up, if I can't move in 2 wheel I often try locking the the diff just for kicks. I don't remember it ever getting me anywhere. On the other hand it is very seldom that 4 wheel drive won't get me out. On big trucks locking the diffs makes a huge difference.
4x4ord 05/11/20 06:50am Fifth-Wheels
RE: TFL Gold Hitch Awards 2020

Also TFL confirmed that the Adaptive Cruise Control was used on the Ram. I don't think that was in contention especially since it likely would not kick on due to how slow they were going. The ACC only kicks on the brakes if someone is in front of you going slower than you and I seriously doubt there was someone else going slow enough to force the ACC system to kick on the wheel end brakes the whole way down. I agree!!! some just can't get over the FACT the CUMMINS EB does the JOB far better than the others. The sad part is there is more weight for the fastest instead of the safest!!! Depends how you look at it. Even if the Cummins was able to hold the weight back on that grade in second gear you have to realize it was in second gear and only had 1 gear left for steep grades. The Ford was in third gear so if I was going to take a 30,000 lb trailer down a 14 % grade I'd be much more comfortable doing it with the GM or Ford from a safety perspective. Hey So when you come out of the tunnel there is a speed limit going down depending upon the weight you are carrying. So It’s probably 35 or 40 mph. Listen I know you got a Ford and it’s ok to be proud of it. I get it, I love Ford too just happen to have a Ram. So the speed limit is all about safety, I appreciate your opinion but really think about it, for me hitting the brake zero times is an amazing achievement. The facts are the facts. Ram blew that one out of the park. One of the things you think about going downhill is the diesel going into limp mode because of higher sustained rpm’s. In fact the smaller diesels, I know Ford and Ram too maybe had an issue with this. Imagine hauling 30,000 and the truck goes into limp mode. That’s another reason I think Ram-hit it out of the park. To me Tfl exposes therir bias to Ford on this one issue. What do we say, “Work Safely First”. Again I’m not saying that Ford or Gm can’t achieve exactly what Ram has but Ram clearly, on this one issue alone, should have won the Gold Hitch Award and like I said not because I don’t like Ford or Gm. Now if Ram would have used one or two brake applications, I would have said give the Gold Hitch to Ford, but you can’t argue with results. TFLTruck in my opinion, is at the point that their tests are irrelevant for RVers. So bottom line is with all respect, I don’t agree with your gearing point. Cummins is what it is, a wonderful platform that works across commercial, industrial, utility, farm, off shore, and even our application. It can be programmed quickly and easily is is designed for long term reliability. There no doubt in my mind that in 5 minutes a Cummins engineer could tweak their new platform to get that minute back out of the speed going up the hill. I think it would take Ford and GM more than 5 minutes, maybe an hour or two to optimize the tranny engine brake for no brake applications going down the hill. Peace This has absolutely nothing to do with me touting Ford because I have one. My 2017 Ford is like the Ram ..... it automatically applies the brakes going down a steep grade so zero brake applications are required. I'm certain the 2020 Ford uses the same programming. There is no need for the engineers to tweak anything. Us drivers do need to understand our trucks in order to best use the technology to suit our situations. I think some Ford guys are unaware of the fact that their Ford uses the wheel brakes to help out the exhaust brake when necessary as are the Ram guys.
4x4ord 04/18/20 03:00pm Tow Vehicles
RE: TFL Gold Hitch Awards 2020

Also TFL confirmed that the Adaptive Cruise Control was used on the Ram. I don't think that was in contention especially since it likely would not kick on due to how slow they were going. The ACC only kicks on the brakes if someone is in front of you going slower than you and I seriously doubt there was someone else going slow enough to force the ACC system to kick on the wheel end brakes the whole way down. I agree!!! some just can't get over the FACT the CUMMINS EB does the JOB far better than the others. The sad part is there is more weight for the fastest instead of the safest!!! Depends how you look at it. Even if the Cummins was able to hold the weight back on that grade in second gear you have to realize it was in second gear and only had 1 gear left for steep grades. The Ford was in third gear so if I was going to take a 30,000 lb trailer down a 14 % grade I'd be much more comfortable doing it with the GM or Ford from a safety perspective. I don't think the torque converter on the Ram(or any truck) locks in 1st gear which is required to engage the exhaust brake. Although I think the factor of the Ram being in second gear had more to do with the speed they were going. At 35 mph, they would be at 3,000 rpm. The max speed they would be able to go in 2nd would be about 39 mph at 3,400 rpm. Remember, the higher the rpm, the greater the stopping ability that the EB has. The Ford would be a 2,800 rpm in third at 35 mph, and would be at 3,800 rpm if it shift to 2nd. I don't know the specs on the 6.7L, especially the 2020, so I am not even sure it can go into 2nd at that rpm. The Ram also had more than enough power to hold back the weight and even kicked on and off so it would likely be able to handle even more weight. I will say that I believe that the reason why the Cummins is able to do this is due to its small restrictive turbo with its low a/r turbine housing which is a choke point and one reason why it is not making as much power as the other two. Add a larger turbo(like I have) to the Cummins and you will be able to make about another 50-75 hp without even adding more fuel. As I said before, it is a give and take with turbos(even VGT's) and intercooler. You have to decide whether you want top end or low end power, more power in spurts or more sustained power, more power overall or better exhaust brake. This one reason why I say that there is not perfect truck for everyone and which is better may change on everyone's needs/wants our of a truck. So like your truck for the reasons why your bought it, not the reasons why you didn't. The Ford red lines at 4000 rpm. Had TFL slowed down a little more the Ford would have dropped to second and had significantly more torque holding on the rear axle. I think the torque converter is capable of locking in first gear. I remember going down a very long 8% grade with my 03 Duramax. It needed 1st gear to hold back, which it did, but it revved the engine to 5000 rpm doing it. For 2020 you don't have to sacrifice anything other than the giving up the big C badge on the side of your truck to drive the clear winner. Without the turbo creating significant back pressure a 40,000 lb truck would be going 90 mph down that grade. If the EB on the Ram, "switched off" as you are suggesting, the truck would have rapidly accelerated.
4x4ord 04/18/20 05:32am Tow Vehicles
RE: TFL Gold Hitch Awards 2020

Also TFL confirmed that the Adaptive Cruise Control was used on the Ram. I don't think that was in contention especially since it likely would not kick on due to how slow they were going. The ACC only kicks on the brakes if someone is in front of you going slower than you and I seriously doubt there was someone else going slow enough to force the ACC system to kick on the wheel end brakes the whole way down. I agree!!! some just can't get over the FACT the CUMMINS EB does the JOB far better than the others. The sad part is there is more weight for the fastest instead of the safest!!! Depends how you look at it. Even if the Cummins was able to hold the weight back on that grade in second gear you have to realize it was in second gear and only had 1 gear left for steep grades. The Ford was in third gear so if I was going to take a 30,000 lb trailer down a 14 % grade I'd be much more comfortable doing it with the GM or Ford from a safety perspective.
4x4ord 04/17/20 07:00am Tow Vehicles
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