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RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

I'm guessing the Ram will run similar to or a bit slower than the Duramax. I'm sure the 6 speed transmission will be a factor in this, although the Cummins has a sweet, flat torque curve that should make this less of a disadvantage. The Cummins has a flat power curve. The torque curve drops off faster as the rpm increases with the Cummins than the Duramax does and that's why it makes less hp than the Duramax even though it makes higher peak torque. The working rpm range of the Cummins is probably 2100 -3100 rpm? We know it makes 343 hp at 1800 rpm and 400 hp at 2800. It likely makes at least 376 hp at 2100 rpm, then 394 hp at 2500 rpm and 385 hp at 3100 rpm. We can guess that the Ram will make most of the run in 3rd gear running above 2500 rpm which puts it at 43 mph. The last mile and half will probably bring it to its knees in third or it might drop to second. At any rate it should be spending very little time below 380 hp. So if the six speed keeps it between 380 and 400 hp there isn't a whole lot to be gained by more cogs in the transmission.
4x4ord 02/15/20 04:45am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7

I agree that buying a new truck every 3 years makes no sense at all. They are expensive, they last and they depreciate. I bought a 2002 Ford 7.3 new and I am still driving it because there is nothing wrong with it. It is dependable and now it is going up in value. I paid $35k and it is worth close to $20k. Buying new never makes sense and usually the more often you replace the truck the higher your costs will be. If I was replacing an 18 year old 7.3 today with one like I'm driving I'd have to dish out at least $50k. As it is I've spent a total of 80k upgrading several times over the last 18 years. So assuming I could have run a 2002 all this time I could be 30k richer right now had I not been trading my trucks so often. 30k over 15 years is not a big deal to me at this point in my life.
4x4ord 02/14/20 08:28pm Tow Vehicles
RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

^^^^ Not that I'm doubting you but how do you know the truck is not just displaying a temperature value to make you feel good? I know some people claim the temperature guages are glorified idiot lights..... designed only to read high once the temperature gets above a dangerously high level. Many oil pressure gauges are like this as well. Manufacturers don't want people complaining about their oil pressure dropping down to 5 psi during idle so the gauge lies. I belong th the Turbo Diesel Register. They know stuff. I go into the EVIC to see the temps I mentioned. Another thing to keep in mind when comparing temperatures is that to ne able to compare values from one truck to another we'd have to know where in the system the reading was being monitored.
4x4ord 02/14/20 07:20pm Tow Vehicles
RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

^^^^ Not that I'm doubting you but how do you know the truck is not just displaying a temperature value to make you feel good? I know some people claim the temperature guages are glorified idiot lights..... designed only to read high once the temperature gets above a dangerously high level. Many oil pressure gauges are like this as well. Manufacturers don't want people complaining about their oil pressure dropping down to 5 psi during idle so the gauge lies.
4x4ord 02/14/20 04:05pm Tow Vehicles
RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

I think the fastest time up the hill relates to more than just who has an extra minute at the top of the IKE. It relates to passing capacity on tight roads, starting capability coming onto major roadways and others as well. It is pretty important, it speaks to a lot of different driving metrics, but certainly not all that everyone feels are important. I would like to see what the engine, and tranny temps are, EGT's would be very helpful as well. I have a feeling the manufacturers are not all displaying actual water and fluid temperatures on their gauges. I think they want the engines and oil to run hot and if they display accurate numbers the service departments would be swamped with people complaining that their truck is running too hot. I added a temperature gauge on my Ford and once the water reaches the mid point of the temperature gauge (at about 170*) the gauge quits moving. IE at 213* it is still exactly in the middle of normal. I think even gauges displaying numbers from the factory are not showing accurate temperatures until the fluid is actually too hot .... whatever that is.
4x4ord 02/14/20 12:08pm Tow Vehicles
RE: The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

^^^^ For us RVers it would be nice to see a 500 mile fuel economy loop conducted with all three trucks towing identical fifth wheel RVs one behind the other.
4x4ord 02/14/20 10:14am Tow Vehicles
The Cummins soon to take on the Ike

Time to place our bets; I still haven't decided whether the Duramax did lousy or if the Ford is an over achiever. Ignoring the performance of the Duramax I'm going to say the Cummins will do the run in 10 minutes 50 seconds. it will be interesting. Click Edit: The more I think about it, the more I think the Powerstroke is under rated and the Ram will run the hill in the same time it took the Duramax .... 11:47
4x4ord 02/14/20 09:36am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7

^^^ I don't blame you.... it's probably less humiliating for you to keep your head buried in the sand while blowing smoke out your @$$.:)
4x4ord 02/13/20 12:36am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7

If your trading in truck every 3yr you never technically own it... Again a car salesman dream to be able to keep you in monthly payments the rest of your life. If you truly believe $2k/yr Ive got some great affordable ocean front property in NV Id like to show you. Lol... Here's some actual numbers for you to consider: I paid cash for a new Super Duty in 2011. Five years and 100,000 miles later I sold it privately and by adding $27k to the sale price I bought a 2016 Super Duty. 18 months and 35,000 miles later I sold the 2016 privately and by adding $15k cash I purchased a new 2017 Super Duty. If I were to sell my 2017 today, with 28,000 miles on it, I believe I could add $21k cash and purchase a new 2020 SuperDuty. So if I replace my 2017 I will have a total of $63k plus my 2011 Super Duty spent to own a new 2020 Super Duty Platinum. Had I kept my 2011 Super Duty it would now have 163,000 miles on it and be approaching 10 years old. If I were to sell it today and buy a new 2020 I would likely be looking at about 60k difference. I would have saved some money by having less money tied up in a vehicle over the last few years had I kept the 2011 but, on the other hand I might have had some repair bills to offset some of that. So like I said owning these trucks costs a lot of money but whether you trade every 3 years vs every 10 is not really a big deal one way vs the other.
4x4ord 02/12/20 12:23pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7

Only rich people can answer your question. These trucks are expensive no matter how you buy them. Replacing your diesel every 3 years vs every 10 probably only costs about $2k per year more. You cant be serious... Your a car salesman’s dream. I actually think it costs less than $2k per year more to replace my truck every 3 years vs hanging on to it for 10 before replacing it, but, my point is that if someone can afford to buy a new truck once every 10 years he can likely afford to buy a truck once every 3 years .....
4x4ord 02/12/20 10:23am Tow Vehicles
RE: Used 2011 F350 6.7. Do I need to purchase warranty?

If you want warranty I think you should buy a new truck.
4x4ord 02/12/20 07:01am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 vs '17-'19 Ford 6.7

Only rich people can answer your question. These trucks are expensive no matter how you buy them. Replacing your diesel every 3 years vs every 10 probably only costs about $2k per year more.
4x4ord 02/11/20 10:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

So these NUMBERS really need to be understood and NOT taken at face value. So what is an acceptable percentage to you? What Cummins is getting at is that the new SRW trucks are rated to tow some heavy trailers, up to 22000 lbs which might be no problem if you're hauling a gooseneck equipment trailer where you can position the load in such a way as to not overload the truck's rear axle, but, if you're wanting to tow a 22000 lb tandem axle fiver with your new SRW you might be very disappointed to find out the 5000 lb pin weight of your fiver will cause the rear axle weight rating of your truck to be exceeded by 1200 lbs.
4x4ord 02/10/20 06:48pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

My tires run when I am towing at about 98% capacity ... What most are missing is the fact that when ANYONE puts a capacity on something, that does NOT mean that as you get close, you shouldn't do it... It simply means that whatever is being rated has been tested to perform at that particular weight.. safely under proper conditions. If an overhead crane is rated at 3 ton, you can lift 3 ton all day, everyday and as long as you don't abuse the equipment, your good to go. My big trucks are rated at 80,000# ... we run at that weight almost daily I look at tires the same way... *** DISCLAIMER *** It is Just my opinion on the subject..... Well said!
4x4ord 02/10/20 05:42pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

I pulled big FW with a single axle truck and never had an issue. In my case I was right up to the rated limit of the tires, which did concern me a bit. I was meticulous about keeping the tires at proper pressure. When I had the FW I kind of wished I had a dually. Now that I no longer have the FW, but still have the truck, I'm glad it is a single. I'm very comfortable towing at or slightly over my tire ratings. It's when I get a heavy load on my truck that I sometimes get a little nervous. I once had 11000 lbs of pin weight on the gooseneck ball of my F350 SRW .... I didn't have to go on a public road but, I was in 4 wheel drive pulling hard through deep snow and if something had broke I can't say I would have been real surprised.
4x4ord 02/10/20 02:47pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

Some have 18000 lb or larger fivers and need a dually. Some have large egos and need a dually. Others think a dually has something to offer over a SRW truck for a small trailer and therefore buy a dually. Its surprising there is anyone left for a SRW. Nothing to do with ego here; I've pulled with both and there is a noticeable difference in stability with the dually. :B Yes, this makes sense. If someone is a little unstable I can see why he might buy a dually to tow a 5ver under 16k.:)
4x4ord 02/09/20 08:55pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

Some have 18000 lb or larger fivers and need a dually. Some have large egos and need a dually. Others think a dually has something to offer over a SRW truck for a small trailer and therefore buy a dually. Its surprising there is anyone left for a SRW.
4x4ord 02/09/20 01:10pm Tow Vehicles
RE: DRW vs SRW

I will go to a dually if I ever get a fiver with a GVWR of 18k lbs or more. I am 100% satisfied with my SRW for my 16k fiver. When I tow my tandem axle dually gooseneck, I'd often be happier with a dual wheeled truck.
4x4ord 02/08/20 08:29pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Class 3-8 market share

It really surprises me that Freightliner is so far ahead of Peterbilt/Kenworth. I guess they must be a whole lot cheaper to buy because I think I'd pay more for a used Kenworth than a new Frieghtliner.
4x4ord 02/08/20 06:55am Tow Vehicles
RE: f350, 6.7

2011 was the first model year for the 6.7. If I were looking for a used F350, I’d look at 2015 and up. :):) Me 2.
4x4ord 02/07/20 04:20am Tow Vehicles
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