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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.
I don’t see a “real pickup” as having anywhere near the facility as the cybertruck is projected to have with the exception of a “real pickup” being able to tow a fifth wheel or if you need a long box. But different people need pickups to do different things so there will be a market for the old stuff for a while yet. Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years.Interesting that the RV market seems to be booming while you're asserting that it's doing the opposite. Unlikely that both can be happening. And you're merely reflecting wishful thinking I'm afraid.
And a "real pickup" has a bed separate from the cab so it can flex and not damage the structural integrity of the vehicle. With no such flexibility, the Tesla truck would be susceptible to damage if loaded with an unequal heavy load. As I said, grocery getters and soccer moms won't be bothered with that issue. There actually are reasons behind some design parameters. Ever watch the movement between the bed and cab when there is a serious load in the truck bed? Just because you wish it so, doesn't make it so.
My 08 Silverado doesnt flex at all with full load on,
so that argument about necesary flex doesnt fly.
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Id think Tesla engineers who also design Space X rockets know enough on how to build Unibody Exoskeleton with that hard 30x SSteel to make it strong enough not to flex or damage under any loadSo you're saying the same engineers who design rockets are designing the Teslas pickup? I would think: "Not likely", after all designing cars isn't rocket science. HAR!
Did you say that NASA images and videos from satellites are fake ?
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8.1 Van
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12/05/19 09:50am |
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RE: Why Tesla's are bad at towing!
Tesla semi towing
Tesla semi towing #2
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12/05/19 08:13am |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Cybertruck's polarizing design isn't an accident. It's a manifestation of the 4 fundamental needs the vehicle was engineered to meet. Tesla has succeeded on all fronts. This has HUGE implications for the company and its mission, and the future of automotive design and manufacture. As a Tesla shareholder, I'm very excited for the future.
Cybertruck had to be:
1. Low Cost (to make, and sell)
2. Function/Performance
3. Efficient
4. Safe
It is all of these things and no other automaker can compete on ALL four of these -- unless they copy everything. This is REALLY important to understand as a long-term investor.
Cybertruck is Engineering Genius
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8.1 Van
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12/03/19 07:03pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Wow, I almost asked Elon to refund my hard-earned $100 for the Cybertruck with all the ghosts found under the hood of this truck.
Until wait, problem with 30 to 50% power drain on Cybertruck. My ICE is worst at more than 50% reduced mpg when towing.
I can only go 200 miles in full charge when towing. Wait, that my regular stops for gas up and lunch on my camping trips.
I'll have problems with off roading? How, it will have a ton more torque and ground clearance?
The bullet proof glass shattered? Who cares, I'm not going to Texas anyways.
The looks, oh yeah, it still have not grown into me yet. Anyone, wants to buy for $5,000 my high-priority place in order-reservation queue?
Real world towing is showing a range of 30-50 percent verses unloaded. The reduction is 50-70 percent.
BTW: My diesel has a 30 percent reduction when under load verses unloded.
Huh?:h:)
When and where? Have they already tested the Cybertruck under towing conditions? Dang, I missed that one!
Here is your Tesla towing. Watch what happens. The look on the kids face is priceless! LOL
Tesla towing
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8.1 Van
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12/02/19 11:49am |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Tesla vs Ford in 1/4 mile :B
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11/30/19 12:33pm |
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RE: 8th-Grade QB Receives Scholarship Offer from Miami
Marietta, led by quarterback Harrison Bailey and tight end Erik Gilbert, is coming off a 42-10 win over Mill Creek. Parkview, behind the power running of tailback Cody Brown, trounced Archer 35-17 in the third round.
Marietta is in the semifinals for the first time since 1994 and is seeking the school’s first state title since 1967.
http://www.gpb.org/blogs/gpb-sports-blog/2019/11/30/football-fridays-in-georgia-marietta-at-parkview
The third quarter brought more of the same — Mill Creek had back-to-back three-and-out possessions on offense, and Marietta scored on its first two possessions. The Blue Devils moved the ball more with the pass in the third quarter, and Bailey had a pair of TD passes, a 9-yarder to Michigan State commit Rickey White and a 10-yarder to Johnson.
https://www.gwinnettprepsports.com/sports/mill-creek-s-season-ends-with-quarterfinal-loss-at-marietta/article_92e85617-4291-5d05-a55c-09cdc3292733.html
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11/30/19 12:07pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Looks like a 70's/80's Sci-fi b-movie prop and about as useful too.
If the ecoturkeys want to sell me on full electric, this isn't helping.
For now, I'll still stick with the 3 R's. Reduce, reuse, and recycle.
Hmm Id think electric truck w stainless steel body would last much longer then your Ram w Cummins and be way cheaper to run too.
Btw
Hows them Tar sands polution up there lately?
Ive heard cancers are quite comon in people livin downwind
My RAM is running great. No rust either. Not sure why that's a thing. Not here anyways. Maybe in the North East US.
EV cheaper to run? Hmmm, maybe, for now. But wait until more people convert over to whatever it is. Hydrogen fuel cell, EV...Doesn't matter. Eventually, they'll find a way to make you pay. Firmware updates on your EV? Engineered obsolescence for parts. Road tax, electric tax. Doesn't matter, eventually governments and business will find ways to replace revenue generated from the ICE ecosystem. If you can, enjoy it while it lasts.
Be cautious of what you hear about the Tar Sands. There's a lot of misinformation that has been deliberately spread for years.
We all have a to pay a price for civilization. I'm more worried about plastic pollution, cities dumping raw sewage into the rivers and oceans and shipping our garbage overseas rather than recycling and disposing of it properly.
Those Lithium mines for EV batteries aren't very eco-friendly either. Same with fracking and other forms of oil extraction.
As for cancer rates...not sure. I know lots who've worked or are working it the patch. Nothing cancer related sticks out. More stuff related to working long hours. Not everyone is able to do it.
I'd wager my carbon footprint in my diesel is far, far less then than those that fly (business and/or pleasure) multiple times a year or drive exceedingly long distances no matter the vehicle, take cruises every couple of years. Not to mention all the container ships, tour boats, airplanes, buses, trains everyone uses.
I'll keep improving my home to make it more energy efficient and eventually I'd like to add solar panels, if possible.
My original point still stands. I don't like the truck and find it would be next to useless for any of my applications. I really don't care how it's powered but if it can't do what I already can do with what's available, then I'm simply not interested.
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Why I'm Switching to Tesla Cybertruck from Dodge Ram 3500!
Worldwide Cybertruck reservation tracker
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11/28/19 06:18pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
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11/28/19 06:40am |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
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8.1 Van
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11/27/19 07:22pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Can't see myself dumping a half yard of sand, gravel or bark mulch in the back of one of those things. Might have a great cool factor but not to very practical as a pickup. Pickups look like they do and have flat bed rails for a reason.
Is that a joke or what ? 99% of pickup owners never do that.
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11/27/19 07:19pm |
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RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !
After the boomer generation ends up nursing homes you could kiss GM, Ford and Chrysler goodby.
https://youtu.be/Yj_2l3HtSqQ
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8.1 Van
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11/26/19 02:30pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Lets cut to the chase here, the Tesla Cybertruck is not for someone who buys a gas or diesel Ford, Chevy, Dodge or GMC pickup every few years , it's for people that want a large Tesla for up to 6 passengers , up to 500 mile range , 3500 lb payload and up to 14,000 lb tow rating.
Poor Ford, they invested in Rivian and think this is what will compete with Tesla.
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11/25/19 06:37pm |
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RE: The flat-Earth conspiracy is spreading around the globe
Wow, really? That's sarcasm, just so you know. All you are spouting is rhetoric from the people who are part of the conspiracy. Where's your proof? I say the Earth is round and flat, and you say it is a sphere, but you only offer observations that it's round. I've seen no spheres, only pictures of round objects.
Let's face it, you can't prove the Earth is a sphere, any more than you can prove the Sun is the center of the solar system. You believe what you're told, and some people believe what they're told. Neither of you can prove you're right, or wrong. The Earth isn't flat but you'd be very hard pressed to prove it.
image of earth today
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11/25/19 06:24pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Bulletproof doesn't mean the glass doesn't have an issue, it means it won't penetrate. I didn't see the ball penetrate.
Tesla’s Chief Designer Franz von Holzhausen testing Cybertruck window
I Bought The New Tesla Cybertruck!
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Retired old men love pickup trucks but their kids don't.
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11/25/19 11:34am |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Tesla’s Chief Designer Franz von Holzhausen has a wicked pitch. Here is a slow-motion video of the Tesla team tempting fate, hurling a steel ball towards the Tesla Cybertruck right before they were set to debut it to the world.
video
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11/23/19 05:23pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Tesla already received 146,000 Cybertruck pre-orders worth over $8 billion
https://electrek.co/2019/11/23/tesla-cybertruck-pre-orders/
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11/23/19 04:06pm |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
@time2roll - Thanks for showing the picture -- do you agree with me that it's ugly?
Yes not just ugly but fugly!
Maybe you would like the minnie mouse pickup better.:B
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11/23/19 08:33am |
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RE: 8th-Grade QB Receives Scholarship Offer from Miami
Marietta beats defending champs, advance to 3rd round
The Blue Devils' first three possessions ended in Vidal touchdowns. The first came on a 7-yard reception on third and goal five minutes into the game. Four minutes later, he scored on a 15-yard run, busting through the line up the middle and then cutting to the left untouched. Both scoring drives began with pass plays of over 30 yards, down the middle to wide-open receivers, from senior quarterback and Tennessee commit Harrison Bailey.
https://www.wsbtv.com/sports/high-school-football/marietta-beats-defending-champs-advance-to-3rd-round/1011592243
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11/23/19 08:26am |
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
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Elon Musk is the greatest car salesman who has ever lived, and Cybertruck is a flamboyant effort to create a Tesla "halo" vehicle that resets the company's story and helps it to escape from its current design rut.
As a pickup, the Cybertruck actually has staggeringly impressive specs.
Rather than carping about how weird the Cybertruck looks, we should appreciate Tesla's bold attempt to enliven electric-car design, which has gotten desperately dull.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-cybertruck-is-a-halo-vehicle-that-resets-teslas-story-2019-11
If you don't know what Halo is then it is not for you.
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8.1 Van
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11/22/19 02:45pm |
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RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !
I can't imagine he will make that much money at that price point...
Tesla has yet to prove they are a profitable ongoing enterprise
Just like Amazon in their first 10 years.
https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-no-profits-and-why-it-works
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11/22/19 02:10pm |
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