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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
I'm now a little confused...
I pushed oven pilot knob and gas exited end of line. Sniffer went off immediately. I turned oven knob to off. I used a shop to remove residual propane gas smell.
Waited about 30 min and checked line again. No leak.
Perhaps, all along it was residual propane from when oven and burners were tested?
Perhaps the use of the push knob control for oven pilot several times (several pushes were made) cleared something that kept it from completely sealing?
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Baja Man
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10/29/22 06:49pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
I checked again today. The propane appears to be leaking from the line that comes from the oven pilot assembly (where control knob connects). Pic attached. I tightened it, but it did not stop the leak.
I believe there should be no propane leaking from the end of this line at any time, except when the oven knob is pushed which allows propane to flow through this line to the pilot. Is this correct?
I will now test to see when gas is turned on, is it leaking from this line when knob is NOT pushed. Sound correct?
NOTE: The line that enters the pilot burner assembly has a brass end piece (cap sleeve) with a pin hole on end. Is this to reduce the amount propane flow?
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Baja Man
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10/29/22 05:15pm |
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RE: Beach trip
Wow! Great pics. I love fishing and camping....to do it on the beach and have your own rig with you.....that's just having your cake and eating it too! BTW....nice rig set up!
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Baja Man
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10/29/22 04:36pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
So is the receiver drilled incorrectly or the extension tube drilled crooked? I looked at the picture and cannot figure which is faulty. As others posted, each tube can be inserted into the receiver individually and pinned, then the clamps are applied. Once fully assembled and tightened, there is no reason to touch the clamps and the double truss can be installed or removed as a complete assembly.
The extension is drilled incorrectly.
We tested the insertion/removal once all install steps were followed. The entire assembly would not come out. We believe it is the thick powder coating that was applied to all parts. It makes for a tight fit. Plus, the tolerances are quite tight to begin with.
After a few ins/outs, it should be fine.
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Baja Man
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10/29/22 04:31pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
Curious to how much weight the Supertruss adds with the extension over stock hitch? (and therefore decreases your "legal" camper carrying capacity?)
it must be significant.
It's beefy, but not that heavy. If someone is that close on capacity, they have other issues. And towing anything probably shouldn't be on the menu.
After some net searching, I estimate that for my application, the hitch itself would add about 30 pounds over the stock hitch. A 36" extension adds about 70 pounds. If towing a 3500 pound trailer, there should be about 350 pounds of tongue weight. All the above reduce the carrying capacity you can put in the bed (your camper). If you have a 4500 or 5500 series truck, it probably won't be a factor. If you have a 2500 or 3500 series truck, you should take notice..
Really, wow!!
Soooo.... after all that investigation effort, you basically made my point for me. It adds a 100 pounds. Got it.
Which is probably what Grit Dog was referring to. That makes it productive.
As for the alignment, I doubt that the holes are drilled wrong; as has been pointed out, the two tubes are independent and move. Happens often, even after install. That's what a hammer is for. Give it a whack, it'll line up.
Lot's of good info on this forum, different ways for people to forward their opinions, gotta roll with it and keep it light hearted.
The hitch is drilled correctly.
It is not the collars/washers welded on outside of 5/8" holes on hitch.
The lower support bar was drilled/punched INCORRECTLY.
TL stated "5/8" holes are punched, not drilled. Once in a while we get a bad one." New one was sent, installed, and pin went right in!
It was easy to see that it was drilled incorrectly.
BTW....Although they are independent tubes, once they are installed, hitch pins inserted, and the two collars are tightened.....they are NOT moving!
Also, I never asked for any weight specs or what weight the hitch added. That may have come from another poster.
Thank you!
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Baja Man
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10/29/22 04:25pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
I've had propane smell twice in my coach. Once it was the little supply tube that leads to the pilot for the oven. When you light the pilot it would leak just a fuzz amount where the compression nut tightens to the pilot. Why the pilot didn't burn it off is a bit of a mystery to me. The other was where the copper line tied into the furnace. It had a little fuzz leak and when you'd turn on the furnace and blast thru the duct system it would suck that fuzz leak smell throughout the coach. S'pose the bottom line is check all your connections that come into the coach. Stove/Oven. Referigerator. Furnace. Water heater, but if that is leaking it should vent to the outside, but I'd chech it all anyway.
I turned on propane yesterday morning and left ALL appliances off.
The propane alarm does not appear to have sounded/triggered.
After checking today, it looks like my oven is leaking. The smell appeared to be coming from around that area so that's where I started. I used a gas sniffer.
It appears to be leaking near line that enters oven. I'll see if I can find some product info/manual to see an exploded view and give me an idea of what I'm looking at. I'll start by removing the interior grate and lower shelf (screwed into sides). This will provide me access to burner and the pilot area.
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 06:23pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
The tubes are separate pieces. The lower tube inserts into the lower receiver hole where you then line up holes and insert 5/8" pin. It is the lower tube that was not drilled correctly.
That aligns with what I was thinking, but if you loosen the straps, can you not get enough play to align the lower pin? Then, tighten the straps that hold the tubes together.
We never even connected the two tubes together. We simple inserted the lower tube by itself and the hole did not align.
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 04:34pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
I think the tubes can move independently. Maybe it got bumped in shipping if I'm right.
The tubes are separate pieces. The lower tube inserts into the lower receiver hole where you then line up holes and insert 5/8" pin. It is the lower tube that was not drilled correctly.
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 03:49pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
I wanted to share a couple of pics of the TL Super Truss 36" LOWER support bar. The 5/8" hitch pin hole was drilled incorrectly. The hitch pin hole was approximately 5/16" off center on one side.
This is poor quality control and should be embarassing for TL. Contacted them and sent pics. Awaiting a response.
https://i.imgur.com/m1L00nGl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7n1uun3l.jpg
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 01:27pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
I do understand about perhaps not needing a 36" extension. The boat coupler would be too close to bottom of camper bumper with less than 36". My friend does not want the ball connection under the camper bumper. Concern would be up driveways at angles that are steep could cause trailer coupler/tongue to hit camper bumper. Plus, the added length will assist when launching boat.
Grit dog.....I do read all that are assisting in productive manners.....not just what I want to hear!! Your responses are not always productive. All other responses are appreciated and have been productive.
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 01:11pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
This is an example of my setup. Class 5 hitch 41" stinger. Cinched down to take out the extra movement.
https://i.imgur.com/NrkCFMZl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/t5qIrz9l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FTwdFsBl.jpg
My friends set up is very similar...he has a camper bumper that adds distance between hitch and rear edge of bumper.
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 01:06pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: 36" Hitch Extension for 2" Receiver - Are they Made?
I think the OP said the measurement was from the hitch to the outside of the bumper .
Exactly!
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Baja Man
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10/27/22 01:04pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
When your tanks get low on propane you will also find there is an odor of gas.
Tanks are full.
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Baja Man
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10/25/22 04:07pm |
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
Did you leave the pilot light in the oven on? If it goes out it will still be releasing propane.
Pilot extinguishes when oven is turned off.
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Baja Man
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10/25/22 04:06pm |
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
go check your battey, when they run out of water they smell BAD.
They are maintenance free.
Smell is inside trailer.
Maintenance free can smell to high heaven when they fail.
How are they checked? They are about one year old.
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Baja Man
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10/25/22 04:05pm |
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
Your factory installed propane alarm is designed to be very sensitive, if still functional. It should work better than your nose!
Often times an RV furnace, or oven will give off an odor, when new, or when not used for a lengthy time. This will go away with use. If only running for 5-10 minutes, it may smell again next time.
You can purchase a small propane gas detector, that will fit in hard to reach areas. They are not expensive, google will help you.
Jerry
Propane alarm is new last week. Ordered a small pencil type propane sniffer. I will run all appliances and heater a couple of more times and see if odor stops lingering around.
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Baja Man
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10/25/22 04:05pm |
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
Whenever we use the propane oven, my wife thinks we have a propane leak. What she is smelling is the odor of the burned propane. We have that discussion every time.
That could be what happened.
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Baja Man
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10/25/22 04:02pm |
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RE: Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
go check your battey, when they run out of water they smell BAD.
They are maintenance free.
Smell is inside trailer.
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Baja Man
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10/24/22 08:26pm |
Travel Trailers
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Propane smell inside trailer...how to best diagnose?
I am going through testing all trailer systems...refer on propane, heater, stove, oven.
Two days ago I switched refer over to propane to let it run on propane and see if it would get colder than when on 120V. It did not. It actually was 1-2 degrees warmer!
I tested stove, oven, and furnace (lighting and letting them run for 5-10 mins) and then shutting them off. I left the refer on propane overnight.
Yesterday, there is a gas odor inside the trailer. Not sure where it is coming from....stove, furnace, or refer....all of these were run on propane for testing. I thought maybe it was residual gas smell from when I was lighting the burners (it took a minute or so for propane to get to stove/oven, as they had not been lit for many months.
Today, I entered trailer and could still smell gas, so I turned off the refer and closed propane tank valve.
NOTE: I did check, before running any propane items, using soapy water in a spray bottle, the lines that connect tanks to diverter valve. No leaks at these rubber lines.
Propane detector alarm did NOT activate.
Thoughts on where this gas smell can be coming from? BTW...it does not smell like rotten eggs (read that propane can smell like this)...to me, it smells like propane gas.
I guess I could spray soapy water on ALL line connections inside trailer....stove and furnace. Furnace is installed under a couch.
Could it be refer....since it didn't get colder than when running on 120V? Maybe refer is not getting all the propane (due to a leak) it needs to work at optimum level while on propane?
Where to start? Other methods beside soapy water?
Thanks!
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Baja Man
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10/24/22 07:39pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Adding Fans to Rear of RV Absorption Refer - How to Wire?
I decided to add two fans at the top refer vent. They are thermostatically controlled as well as manual override. 3 amp inline fuse.
It is currently 89F in the shade. The two added fans have turned on to level 3/6 (auto mode). This means fans are turning at half speed. The hotter it gets, the faster the fans will spin. I can feel the warm air exiting the refer vent cover....good sign!
The single OEM fan has yet to turn on. If trailer/refer were in the direct sun, it would have turned on by now (last testing I did).
I'll do some testing over the next several days and see what I find. It's supposed to cool off into the low 70s by Saturday, so testing in the heat may not happen until next summer.
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Baja Man
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10/20/22 02:59pm |
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