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RE: Plan B ..January travel thru the South

No. ^^^^^^^^I Agree^^^^^^^^ Not an issue.
Busskipper 09/16/19 08:03am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: School me in public parks camping...

I'm woefully embarrassed to admit that, after 10 years of camping, we have extraordinarily minimal experience with county/state/national parks. We've always done the 'rv park' thing. The kids are older now, however, and the activities and attractions of the commercial park doesn't have the same draw. So, I'd like to begin broadening our exposure. I am, however, utterly ignorant in the matter. How do you find out what hookups they have and if they take reservations? Does any of this happen online, or is it all still a phone call? Is it realistic to look for parks with full hook-ups, or are those pretty few and far between? Where do I start when I know what area I want to hit? Is rvparkreviews good for these as well, or am I better off looking at other resources? Don't shame me, it's just not been our bag to date, and I'd like to learn more. I don't even know what I don't know so, please, tell me! Lot of good advice here; We learned long ago to not be concerned with hookups in public parks. If the issue is hookups, we chose our unit with high capacities, or figureded out a way to maximize them such as more batteries, genny, waste tote, inverter. You must add, NO change your habits to conserve your power and water useage. Sure, we own and operate a commercial camp with all the frills you needed for the family, Thank you for patronizing private camps when it was your need. Now its time to cut or at least slim the cord and experience the many other offerings of outdoor hospitality travel. Most public parks do not offer full amenity, limit length of stay, may require purchase of a pass in addition to site fee, and many other variables. Might not be less costly or up your alley if your unit does not have larger tanks, one battery, etc. The world is now your oyster IF you are the more adventurous and proactive type. Look at the websites. Call for availability. Best yet, head out to the national forests and BLM lands, any federal land, find a spot. You can stay 14 days free. Check it out come to us to refill, dump, launder and shower, perhaps be our guest for a pampered night before or after the experience. This will require more thought and effort on your part; Why be so concerned with hookups? My wife enjoys camping, but has no interest in going without the comforts that hookups provide - the toilet and shower being at the core of that. Thom gives more good advice; A lot of good advice given with prior posts. A couple of things to add: ** As mentioned about state parks, check the state park website. You may find that some state parks are reservation only. That has become a trend here in Colorado that a goodly number of state parks require reservations, no walk ins allowed. I frequent the state parks here and noticed the change in the past year or so, from an experiment at some state parks to a requirement at all of the ones that I usually enjoy. All of the ones I go to have electric hookups, common water, and a dump station. ** Twin batteries can usually last a long weekend without the generator. Switching all interior lights to LED bulbs helps in that. I also carry LED lanterns if I don't need to turn on overhead lights. I like to listen to music, the on board stereo/CD player doesn't seem to draw too much electricity. ** As previously mentioned, carrying extra water in jerry cans of some sort can get you through a weekend. I carry a 5 gallon igloo for drinking water and use the on board water for showers/toilet/dish washing. ** The 2 main reservation systems (for SP/USFS/NP) are and There are frequently pictures of campsites at the map level of the websites. Getting to them can be a chore, but can be done. Explore those 2 sites to get a feel for what they offer. ** USFS campgrounds, at least in this area of Colorado and Wyoming, almost never have any sort of amenities. There's the occasional CG that may offer electric at some sites, and even rarer, showers. There may be common water, but rarely are there dump stations. What they do offer is generally spread out campsites, and depending on location, less crowds. After following the aforementioned advice - I'll inject some of my own - You can Dry Camp - BUT - you just need to learn/Know your limits! My DW also requires a life that does not require sacrifices - so I have learned the limits of the Coach along with Her limits and make sure I stay within those:) When we travel longer distances we have no issue doing a Wally*Mart stop for a day or two or even three or Four - but by day four we are reaching the limits of the Coach (And the DW) as we normally use it. So we will find a Commercial or Other Parks that has what we need - Dump - Water - Electric - refill and get ready to go again. If you travel out of season - When Kids are in School - there is a much better chance at snagging one of the full service sites in a State or National Park - they are out there you just need to so a little searching. Keep asking - Keep learning - we have done this in every way for 50 years and never stop learning. September and October are IMHO the best months to explore - Pick you site try a few new things and if all else fails - just use the commercial CG's outside the Park you want to visit. Best of Luck,
Busskipper 09/12/19 08:08am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: I 40 from Gallup to Albuquerque

Currently traveling on our west trip and considering using 491 out of Cortez CO to I40 in Gallup and then taking I40 to I25. Have heard some bad stories about construction and travel delays along I40 between Gallup and Albuquerque. - but the articles said that construction should be complete by now. Has anyone travelled this route recently and can provide any insights about possible construction delays. Thanks. Just one more option that avoids the I's MAP I've always looked for the Road Less Traveled:) Best of Luck,
Busskipper 09/10/19 06:15am Roads and Routes
RE: Heading to the Rockies for 5 or 6 weeks.

I forgot to mention that my wife had a stroke when she was 42. She was not treated properly due to her age and it did not show up right away on a scan. She does her best but has a difficult time getting around. We diud a few experiments with gas mileage on our first day of travel, We had about a 30 to 40 mph headwind and our mileage was bad. We tried 30 mile tests at 55 mph, 60 mph, and 65 mph. Without heavy wind we usually get about 10.5 mpg at 55 top 60. With the wind we were getting 8.5 at 55. We did our little experiments and found that 65 mph only coast us .5 mpg. We decided to go faster. We spent 2 days at TR NP car sightseeing and short hikes. I had never seen this section of badlands topography before. It is like the Badlands NP on steroids. The scale is so much bigger. The valleys are deeper and wider. We loved it. The trip across Highway 2 in Montana included about 30 miles of one way roads with pilot cars to follow. It was slow going and took more time than we wanted. From Browning Montana to Glacier, highway 89 is really torn up. The route is 26 miles long and about 10 miles is nothing but mud, rocks and driving in ditches. My blue truck and white TT were both covered with mud. In Glacier, we took a boat tour at Many Glacier Hotel, and admired the architecture of the hotel. We did some short hikes together and I hiked to Hidden Lake at the top of Logan Pass. We drove all of Going to the Sun road which took all day with the short hikes and sightseeing that we did. We hiked the Trail of the Cedars on the west side of the park. It is amazing to sit and look up at 200 ft tall, 600 year old trees. Being from Wisconsin this is hard to fathom. Wisconsin was just about stripped of old growth trees in the late 1800's. Today we have been wandering toward West Yellowstone. We are both morning people and we get up at about 6:00. I make coffee for me and tea for her. We pack a light breakfast to eat on the road and are usually rolling by 7:00. This is how we like to travel. We frequently eat while driving unless we find something that we want to sit and admire. We would not mind being snowed in somewhere. We have supplies packed that would keep us comfortable for up to a week without getting hungry or cold. I have gone snowmobile and cross country ski camping in northern WI and Michigan. We have been to the Rockies 5 or 6 times in the past. The best part of these trips is that we get to spend the time together admiring everything along the way. We keep commenting on the beauty around us. I told my wife that I would have made a great artist because of my eye for beauty but was stopped by my absolute lack of talent with anything but my camera. We are wandering toward Yellowstone now and have no solid plans as to where we are going after that. I'll check back in when we get a connection again. By the way, 2 Bar Lazy H campground west of Butte MT has the best wifi I have ever had while camping. You sound like a lot of Us.:) Using that Camera - Share an Image or two for those who are not out there with you. Tetons width=740 Best of Luck, More interesting Images - Here :)
Busskipper 09/09/19 05:24am Roads and Routes
RE: I-70 through Colorado

More on the Topic - RT 6
Busskipper 09/05/19 08:05am Roads and Routes
RE: Colorado 114 from Sillsville to Saguache

Had to look up Sillsville and finally found it on a topo map. CO 114 is one of the easiest ways across the Continental Divide in Colorado. ^^^^^AGREE^^^^^
Busskipper 09/05/19 05:54am Roads and Routes
RE: Heading to the Rockies for 5 or 6 weeks.

We frequently boondock so internet is pretty much not a thing unless we stop at a restaurant along the way.Some mornings we stop for $1 coffee at McDonalds just to use their Wifi (and bathrooms!). Some of are still Mickey D's coffee people - Ken you are getting two cups of Senior Coffee for a dollar right:) ;)
Busskipper 09/05/19 05:53am Roads and Routes
RE: I-70 through Colorado

Round a bouts certainly do weed out the stupid drivers. Amend to that, But to the original Question - We're about to head to Oklahoma from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. I would like to go I-90 east to I-15 south and then take I-70 east to Denver. I don't like a lot of drama so are the passes pretty easy to navigate? YES:) Any other concerns I should be aware of? We are in a 40' Class A diesel pusher towing a car. Thank you all for advice. Just as an answer your route is fine - BUT - I'd sure have to look at getting off the I's and just seeing more good Eye Candy as you head south. You are going to be in some of the most Beautiful COuntry all the way to New Mexico. Just mark out the National Parks you could drive By - then the State Parks - National Monuments - National Recreation Areas........................ If were to get off those I's and look at driving by State Parks - Lakes - Reservoirs - Rivers - National Parks and Monuments you could certainly make this a FUN drive. When I look at that drive all I see is Opportunity to put together an amazing Drive, even if I didn't stop to Hike and explore it could and should be just Beautiful in a 40'er and a Toad. This is really just a Dream Drive. Do you have a little time? Could we/should we even address this opportunity? Let us Know,
Busskipper 09/05/19 05:22am Roads and Routes
RE: Do you leave plugged into shore power...?

I read recently that one should not leave the MH plugged in when not in use. We're on our 5th MH and have always left them plugged in when not in use. If, for no other reason, to keep batteries charged. What do you do? Only time in the last twenty year we have not left ours plugged in is when it was Impossible. Why would you not? JMHO,
Busskipper 09/05/19 05:18am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Route 212 over Bear Tooth Pass.

Is Route 212 over Bear Tooth Pass in southern MT, northern WY an acceptable route for a 30' 5th wheel? Doable - Yes Advisable - not so Much It is I'd say, if you just have to do it OK - BUT - much more enjoyable to do it in the TV and be able to SEE IT. Chief Joseph is more easily Doable and then you can look back at the Beartooth. width=730 Enjoy the Trip,
Busskipper 09/03/19 06:15am Roads and Routes
RE: Heading to the Rockies for 5 or 6 weeks.

My wife and I are heading out tomorrow morning a oh dark thirty for a 5 week trip to most everywhere in the Rockies. We are starting in WI, heading to Theodore Roosevelt NP, Glacier, Yellowstone, Tetons, Dinosaur, Arches, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, Silverton, Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Pikes Peak, Mt Evans, Rocky Mtn NP, Devils Tower, Black Hills, Badlands, and back home. We rarely travel on the interstates so we are looking forward to seeing some great little towns along the way. We know that we may have to bug out of some areas due to snow but we are really looking forward to this trip. I will write a few entries along the way when we are near civilization. We frequently boondock so internet is pretty much not a thing unless we stop at a restaurant along the way. What a GREAT TRIP YOU HAVE PLANNED! Take Pictures - Lots of Pictures - as they can be posted now or Later when internet is available - and we'd all love to see some of this Adventure/Road Trip. Sounds Perfect, No hard plan - No Reservations - No Timeline - Just a Great Trip Meandering through the Rockies during the Aspen Changing - OH how Jealous I Am. Heaven. :B Best of Luck,
Busskipper 09/03/19 06:02am Roads and Routes
RE: Route Advice Estes Park to Great Basin and then Utah

For what it's worth, here is a link to one of our blog entries on Great Basin: GBNP As always GREAT IMAGES!!!! Thanks,
Busskipper 08/31/19 05:33am Roads and Routes
RE: Route Advice Estes Park to Great Basin and then Utah

We are planning an August - October trip from Estes Park to see RMNP - then to great Basin National Park in Nevada - and then the Utah national parks. We are kind of leary about driving through the Rocky Mountains on route 34 (Trail Ridge Road). We have a 41 foot 5th wheel. Any advice on this, or suggestions for alternate routes? Thanks! RV's are not prohibited on Trail Ridge Road. As stated, tour buses and modified Jeep Jitney type vehicles are up there frequently. So are the occasional Motor Home/Travel Trailer/5th wheel. But there's a reason why there are not a bunch of them up there. On the east side you climb through forest to about the 2 mile up level, and once you get to Rainbow Curve, you'll be above tree line for about 11 miles. Part of that is a narrow shelf road with no shoulders, no guard rails, and steep drop offs. And on the west side descent there's 5 hairpin curves that are very tight. Yes, buses do it; they are also professional drivers who've done it before. It ain't their first rodeo. If it's your "first rodeo", there are alternatives. Leave Estes Park on CO 7 and head to Allenspark. Just past Allenspark, CO 72 splits off from CO7. These 2 roads are part of the Peak to Peak Highway which is a great drive. CO 7 to Allenspark is a bit rough and narrow, but no drop offs; you're in the forest. Once on CO 72, the road is generally good with shoulders. Yes there are curves and hills but nothing overly challenging. You'll take CO 72 to Nederland where you'll pick up CO 119, still the Peak to Peak Highway. That will take you to Black Hawk/Central City. You can continue on CO 119 down to I-70 (follow the signs) and then just take I-70 westbound to your next destination. ^^^^^I Agree ^^^^^
Busskipper 08/30/19 08:09am Roads and Routes
RE: Taking Hwy50 form Montrose to Colorado Springs~

How is the road?? Anything scary?? Maddog is this part of the Trip to Rushmore? If so look this over as a less Interstate Route:) MAP Added a few stops just in case you needed more to do. Interesting drive that would certainly beat driving up I-25 and all that traffic. Ity being the Fall and all if it is late September this would be even better as the Aspen will be changing in the passes first then the Valleys. Just a thought, Bill
Busskipper 08/28/19 02:19pm Roads and Routes
RE: 70 through Colorado

We will be traveling to Bryce in September from Indiana. Our route has us taking 70 through Colorado. We are pulling a large TT. I'm trying to get an idea of how much longer our trip will be since we are driving through the mountains. We've never traveled that route before. How much do the mountains slow you down? TIA I might have a little different take on your trip and the decisions you make - The drive through Colorado could take a week or so depending on the time of September you drive through. Point here is that the ASPEN will turn Gold in the later part of September and this is not to be Missed. It could also be part of the trip Back, timing is Key. Golden Aspen in Colorado are not to be missed. Are we in a big hurry to get to Bryce? Wouldn't the group love to be part of what is often called the Greatest show in Colorado the Aspen! Think about it as it can be a great change of pace. If you are just going to Blow through Colorado 4runnerguy's info is dead on - the part of the Mountains you need to be concerned about is not the Up but the Down, keep that in mind. Heading to Bryce there are a couple more more Great Drives - RT 128 off of I-70 to Moab along the Colorado River and RT 12 heading into Bryce - keep in mind September is Great in Colorado - BUT - Still pretty Hot in Utah. Sure it will be a great trip,
Busskipper 08/27/19 08:13am Roads and Routes
RE: Seattle, WA to Moab, Utah

We are looking to tow our 25 foot TT on a trip from Seattle, WA to Moab, Utah and would appreciate any suggestions on the best route(s) that are not all simply freeway driving and sites that would be worth visiting on the way. If there are recommendations on RV parks for that trip, that would also be gratefully accepted. Thanks. Not much on directions from your part of the Country but this may help for Moab - 4runnerguy's info on Moab While in Moab be sure to drive RT 128 along the Colorado River - Just Beautiful. Best of Luck,
Busskipper 08/25/19 06:47pm Roads and Routes
RE: Canyon de Chelly

Not to flame or degrade anyone - BUT - Canyon de Chelly has always been one of those special places for me. We usually will spend just one night and arrive early enough to do the entire loop drive. We always have dinner in the lodge and make an effort to speak with the locals in and about the Monument. It has always made me feel as close to having a religious experience every time I go even just writing this post gives me Goosebumps so sorry it did little for you. In the grand scheme of things it is really just a small spot on the map that is visited by few - but for Us it will always be Special - we have never spoken to anyone we have suggested to going there that did not just Love it and the people associated with it. Sorry it did not affect you more positively, Maybe next time. JMHO,
Busskipper 08/22/19 09:14pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Yellowstone Grant/Madison CG's

Grant and Madison campgrounds say max of 30' for trailers in back-in sites. After making reservations in May, I just picked up my new 5th wheel and found it is 30'6". I've looked at pictures of the campsites and can't imagine another 6" is going to be a deal breaker but if anyone has camped there I'd certainly appreciate opinions. I can't determine if 30' is the length of the site, or if it's a measurement with the trailer's wheels backed up to the log stop and the rear of the trailer hanging over. I called the reservations center today and was assured they could work me in a spot, but I'd hate to drive for 3 days to find it's a no go. Any help appreciated. I must have missed the Measurement Police - This was a while ago ----- but we loved it in our 42'+ in late October/November. Go for it,
Busskipper 08/17/19 07:49am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: west virginia

hi all, anyone do any camping in northern WV ?? Love the mts and would like to see something beside the smokies.. like small towns and out of the way places. you know the drill, any nice rv pks you been to? Just fishing for something different to do. Thank you all,,,,,,,almost heaven?????? PS sorry for the first post title mix up "weat vergina" will have a few weeks to spend there,,, The Pan Handle of Maryland should be included - Not trying to steal you from West by God Virginia - but - there is a lot to do in the area so I would not limit yourself to WV. Best of luck,
Busskipper 08/17/19 07:43am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Yellowstone Mammoth CG in Mid October

Bussskipper, thanks for the feedback on the weather. I really appreciate it. That's that kind of weather I was thinking, one just never knows. Keep in mind it was mild the time I mentioned - BUT - it had already snowed two or three times and those snows can come anytime - or not till November just stay Flexible and I think you will love the time you are there. Yellowstone looks great in White :B Best of Luck - share some images when you finish, and tell your story:)
Busskipper 08/11/19 07:53pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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