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RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Ticki2, on Argo, there were two frame ground attachments, one on each side of the camper, bolted through the last rib of the shell, just before the final curved rear panel. Each consisted of a bolt, perhaps 1/4” diameter, bolted thru the rib fore and aft, about 12” to 14” above the base of the rib at the floor. To this was attached a flat braided wire of the sort commonly seen on grounds. The end of that wire fed into the original wiring harness on both sides of the camper. When I replaced the wiring, I kept those frame grounds on each side, feeding my ground wire to the braided wire. I don’t recall how I attached those wires together. I also grounded the panels of breakers to the frame in the electrical control cabinet by attaching those wires to the aluminum frame of the cabinet. Plus I grounded the batteries at the main breaker. Remember that I’m an all aluminum frame so the ground is throughout the rig. Hope this helps. If a pic would help, let me know. I’m away from my photo stash at the moment but might be able to get one next week. Dick
D1trout 08/27/20 04:07pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

67, I thought I had posted this info last weekend but it appears not to have gotten on. I recently bought two sheets of 1/2” Baltic birch plywood, exterior glued marine grade, beautiful stuff at $50 per 8x10 sheet. It would be very suitable for your cabover project. Well coated with epoxy, of course. So sorry our meet up has been delayed... we’re hunkered down.
D1trout 03/25/20 08:23am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

67, thanks for the update. I too have pinned down travel dates. We will leave SF Bay Area Monday, April 20. Expect to arrive Big Bend 25 or so. We’ll plan to spend about 5 days there. Lots of old haunts to revisit. Then head back west to arrive home about the 3rd or 4th of May. I go back to Flagstaff for Overland Expo May 15-16-17. Regarding the Muley Point excursion, I propose that we declare Muley Point a “state of mind” as much as an actual place on the map, and that, in this instance, it is wherever three or more Avionistas are gathered together, as in the Chihuahuan desert at sunset on a mild spring evening and raise our glasses in salute to that elusive place and that state of mind. I feel your pain around Coosa board. Marine plywood will be a fine alternative. Just coat it well with epoxy before you install it and all will be well. Hot dog! We’re headed to the desert!
D1trout 03/02/20 07:46pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

67 and Rasta, how things are shaping up for our meet-up this spring? Is the Illinois weather allowing you any outside work? We need to make this happen!
D1trout 02/28/20 02:27pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

The last half of April is ideal for me - and for Annie and the dogs!
D1trout 02/18/20 04:34pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

67, it is my personal view that this meet-up can happen whenever you and Jane and your rig are road worthy. I have no commitments until mid-May at the Overland Expo in Flagstaff. I have sort of mentally blocked out April to travel in Argo to this event. Let us know what you are thinking about the restoration of your cabover berth. I am very pleased at the prospect of putting faces with names after five years of digital conversations...
D1trout 02/17/20 07:54pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Well, my favorite camp food is anything shared around a campfire with friends. A little chili, a little pork, a little chicken, some Andouille, some brown whiskey - it’s all good! I am capable of a tasty mixed grill if we need additional dinner options.
D1trout 01/25/20 10:20am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Amigos, this talk of chili making me hungry... Can we start a conversation about timing for Big Bend and Muley Point. I’m under the impression April is our target time. 67, you’ve got a big repair. Is April realistic? I’m inclined to wait on you. Overland Expo is mid May in Flagstaff. I’m going, assuming Argo is selected as a DIY show-off vehicle. Let’s talk.
D1trout 01/20/20 11:09am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Merry Christmas, fellow Avionistas. And a very Happy New Year. The prospect of putting faces with names this spring in Big Bend makes 2020 a banner year already!
D1trout 12/25/19 04:14pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Perhaps a handout with before and after photos and referrals to eBay and Craigslist...
D1trout 12/15/19 11:17am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

“Yeh Mon ....That's what I am talking about, although I have yet to see the waterfalls ;-0” Rasta, Pine Canyon on the east side of the Chisos always has a waterfall - and pines. And in BB State Park, Madrid Falls is a magical oasis, with columbine and hummingbirds! Good day trips for the April meet-up!
D1trout 12/10/19 11:02am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

“Just in time for Muley Point” - I like that positive attitude! I’d hope you could come to Terlingua as well. The Chihuahuan desert in the spring is exceptionally beautiful - lots of wildflowers, blooming cactus and ocotillo, streams and waterfalls running. Not to be missed! Onward!
D1trout 12/05/19 06:37pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

For any of you Avionistas interested in using modern materials in your reconstruction (I’m talking to you, 67...), you can do no better than Russel Brown’s video series on using epoxy. Go to Offcenterharbor.com to view them. They are the state of the art. Onward!
D1trout 11/10/19 07:27am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Roamlab, very nicely planned and executed! Taking advantage of contemporary materials can make a big difference. I too have a plan for a north/south bed which involves three 1” diameter graphite rods that extend out from the cabover aluminum bed frame 24” towards the rear of the camper. Then a panel of lightweight fiberglass that lives under the bed is put upon it, forming the necessary extension for the sleepers’ lower legs and feet. The cushions for this extension are taken from either side of the main cabover bed. A bit awkward in that one has to make it up every time but straightforward in that the aluminum framework under the cabover creates a rigid structure to support the cantilevered platform. I haven’t made it up yet. I’ve been so long at the Argo project that I’m content with the East/west sleeping arrangement for the time being. You guys are great creative thinkers! Onward!
D1trout 11/09/19 09:43pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

D, if you like, I’ll send you this scrap of molding to help you contour the outside edge.
D1trout 10/23/19 06:38am Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Dang, D, there’s that “P” word again! Why put plywood back into an area where it failed? Composites and synthetics are so bulletproof that I don’t understand not using them in a situation like this. Granted they are more expensive - significantly more - but you’ll only have to do this repair once. Always a chance I’ve misunderstood your intentions. You mention a coosa, foam, plywood sandwich. Can you describe this in a bit more detail? I suppose if you carefully coated the plywood with epoxy and caulked any penetration carefully, it might outlast you, but to my mind, why worry...? On to particulars, I’m not certain how you can make the floor one piece under your circumstances. That’s why I suggested cutting the layout in half along the long axis of the camper. If you’re concerned about joint failure, you could overlap the (at least) two layers of flooring so the seams were offset six or eight inches with each layer. When you layer each board in, whatever material you decide on, you should be epoxying it to the layer below, like a peanut butter sandwich... That will create a stiff, permanent floor for the cabover. As for the corner obstructions, you’ll just need to be creative! West Systems epoxy (not to be confused with West Marine, the retailer), is the state of the art product for this project. Go to their website and you will find excellent product descriptions and instructional guidance. YouTube has many worthwhile videos on using the material in various applications. You want to focus on the 105 Epoxy system. You can choose from three different hardeners to get things to set up at a speed that you’ll be comfortable with. My advice is to go slow. Hurrying invites error. As for quantities, I can’t really give you much guidance without being on hand. I have attached pics of the curved molding so you can accurately shape the ends of the new floor to fit as snugly as possible on the outside edge. Once you slide the floor into the outer curve with thickened epoxy to bed it, you will have a bombproof repair. Using screws instead of rivets to pull the bottom aluminum layer of the shell up into the flooring is certainly an acceptable solution. I suggest truss head stainless sheet metal screws, well caulked. As for final finish on the floor of the bed, a coat of epoxy would be the simplest. You will have coated it anyway in the assembly process. You could then paint it if you wished. Adding more material just increases weight. As I said, I used the 1/8” x 4’x8’ white fiberglass shower and kitchen panels from Lowe’s, but I have a different setup than you will have. I have a cutoff of the curved molding from my build. Ck out these pics. Let me know if any other views or dimensions would be helpful. https://i.imgur.com/lYY1DCnl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lbN8w8Ml.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yVERvyKl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YCukL72l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/H6d16nRl.jpg Scratch your head about all this and let me know what you’re thinking. It’s a process and you’ll come up with a solution that will do the job and will be (mostly) in your comfort zone Also, shop around for West epoxy. I think prices vary. Onward!
D1trout 10/22/19 09:43pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

OK, D, let me expand a bit. Get rid of ALL the old wood and foam. Sounds like you might have done that already... A simple plywood platform under the cabover on the outside will support the work inside. Now you’re looking at an empty space, the sides of which curve from horizontal to vertical. You’ve still got the inner skin attached vertically. The screws that were penetrating the plywood are sticking down into space. Cut them off. Take some builders paper and carefully create a paper pattern that fits snugly around the entire bunk space. The outside edge of the paper pattern should stop where the upward curve of the molding begins. Then draw the curve and calculate how that curve will extend the upper part of the floor material to fit snugly into the curve in the aluminum molding. Don’t obsess about this curve. West Systems 6/10 epoxy adhesive will fill and attach everything quite securely when the time comes to fit the new floor. Cut the paper pattern in half front to back. Coosa board is super light and strong composite material, waterproof and easily shaped, and a great replacement for plywood. It’s pricey. Ck it out for yourself. It’s the best material for the job but you could use exterior plywood and bond sheets together to make the 1.5” thickness you’ll need. Use West epoxy and a foam roller to bond the sheets and to coat the whole assembly before you install it. When you have dry fitted the two halves in place and are generally happy with the fit, trowel epoxy all over the bottom of the plywood, butter the outside edges of the new floor generously with 6/10, and butter the joint where the two halves come together down the middle. Put the two halves in place and press to fit. Smooth and clean up excess epoxy, adding more to fill any gaps around the outside edges. Then place weight on the new floor til the epoxy kicks. After the epoxy kicks, drill holes from the outside up through the bottom of the curved molding, interspersed with the original rivets (or maybe drill out every 8th rivet or so) thru the new floor and thru the aluminum channel that forms the bottom of the vertical portion of the cabover. Use long rivets to secure this connection. Go to Hanson Rivets on the web and look at extra long blind rivets. You’ll find what you need. They deliver fast. With these rivets you can fasten the floor to the vertical part of the cab in a way that will not fail. Don’t get caught up in the idea that using epoxy will complicate things if you have to go back in. You won’t have to go back in with this repair. That’s the whole point - repair it once. I put 1/8” white gelcoated fiberglass wall panels from Lowe’s on top of my cabover bunk. It’s a pebble finish and easy to wipe clean, lightweight and waterproof. And cheap. Screw it down to the coosa or plywood. Caulk around the edges and you’re done. Let me know if you have questions! Be courageous! Onward!
D1trout 10/10/19 11:01pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

D, here’s a quick idea to address your problem. I’ll expand on it if it interests you. 1. Clean all the dead wood out. 2. Make a full sized paper pattern carefully following the curves at the front. 3. Get either an 1.5” piece of coosa board or some thinner sheets you can bond together. 4. Cut out the pattern on the coosa. 5. Shape the outside edges of the coosa to roughly match the curved molding at the outside of the cabover. 6. Make a thickened epoxy putty compound and butter the outside edge of the coosa then press the coosa firmly into the bed space. The epoxy putty will fill the voids and bond everything nicely all around the edges, creating a rigid floor completely moisture proof and 30% lighter than plywood. You might do the same with sheets of plywood carefully epoxy coated before you install them. Much cheaper than coosa... If this an approach that appeals to you, I’d be happy to expand on it. The devil’s in the details of course...
D1trout 10/10/19 03:19pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Rereading your post, ticki, I surmise that F=6 and I=9, thus confirming that Argo is a 1969 C-11, the 83rd coach produced either that year or in the C-11 series to that point. I’m inclined to think it was the total run that produced the serial number... I wonder if there are other 1969 Avion C-11s with FI serial numbers greater than 83. How many could they have built in Benton Harbor each year? Unlikely as many as 83...although that’s only 7 per month... almost 2 per week...is that plausible? Perhaps the serial numbers of the Benton Harbor plant and the California were combined, even tho the builders plates were different. An interesting question to pursue... No doubt they began production in California because of the salubrious weather
D1trout 10/07/19 09:11pm Truck Campers
RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

My builder’s label says serial number FI 083. Model number C-11. https://i.imgur.com/sAUs6rQl.jpg Kind of hard to see - it’s dark here just now. My title says this is a 1968 or 69 Model. Any idea how to interpret these numbers, ticki?
D1trout 10/07/19 08:55pm Truck Campers
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