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RE: They Better Not Screw Us Up

To tone down the "emotion" on this thread a little and add back some humor ... I actually asked my colleagues at work if they wanted to participate in another "team spirit" outing. We do that sometimes, do different events. Everyone was in favor of another "outing" as a group. I then suggested we could all join the Area 51 movement and lock arms in comradery, and absolutely EVERYONE said, "no thank-you!"
DutchmenSport 07/19/19 08:34am Around the Campfire
RE: To DP or not DP

Everything "new" is daunting at first. Don't let fear of the unknown rob you of your hopes and dreams. Go for it, embrace it, and a year from now you'll wonder why you ever had any concerns to begin with. Think of it this way ... if others can do it ... you can to! Follow your dream. Get the diesel.
DutchmenSport 07/19/19 08:06am Class A Motorhomes
RE: RV Vinyl Trim Insert Sizing

I purchased a roll from my local dealership and replaced all the trim on my previous TT when it began cracking and breaking because it got so brittle. I think I paid something like, $12 for a 100 foot roll. I took a piece of the old trim that wasn't cracked to my dealership parts store and they matched it, off the shelf. I replaced everything on the camper and still have, probably 50 feet left. It's white, but the trim on my current camper is all black now. When you begin to insert the trip, start with one side and lay it in the track about a foot long. Then pinch the trim and insert the very end into the other side of the track. Once started, you can just pinch in the middle and slide right down the track. Cut to length only after you've inserted it. The biggest problem I had was the tail dangling, and it wanted to uncoil all twisted. Then, I did it it 5-6 foot sections over the gutters area and would have to move the ladder again. So the roll was laid on the roof so it wouldn't pull out what I just inserted. It was easy, but a bit frustrating until you get the hang of it. After I caught on how to do it, the rest went very fast. As stated above, don't stretch it. That's why pinching in the middle and just letting it self insert works so well. After it was inserted, I waited about 10 minutes before I cut to length at the ends, and then I left the ends about 6 inches longer to allow for some shrinkage after the immediate install. After a few more minutes, I trim back the 6 inches, leaving and extra inch and tuck it under. The little end caps screwed on top of the fold. Good luck, and have fun. It's an easy job, just a bit tiring working from a ladder for almost everything so long.
DutchmenSport 07/19/19 07:54am Tech Issues
RE: Nifty shower shelf

Nice!
DutchmenSport 07/18/19 05:30pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Repainting Front cap

We had our Keystone Outback (TT) repainted, but we let our dealership do it. It took about 2 weeks for them to do the work. I think the biggest obstacles doing it yourself are (1) space, (2) time, (3) skill. (1) You need a space to do the work. The camper will need to be under roof, dry, and in a somewhat controlled environment because.... (2) Paint needs time to dry between layers, and if you are working a full time job somewhere, your time is limited to after hours and week-ends. The camper needs to be protected from the elements while doing the work. (3) If you are not skilled or do not have the right equipment, the finished product could end up being a disappointment. However, if you are skilled and have the proper equipment, the end result could be fabulous. Time and space were the reason I let my dealer do it. I had no where to get the camper under roof to do the work.
DutchmenSport 07/18/19 01:24pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: MorRyde steps - one solution

... It appears by your photos, that these steps could be significantly out of level enough to cause problems to your travel trailer. ... The camper was sitting on level ground, on asphalt. The steps are definitely not leveled but extremely high, ... agree. The photo was taken to show how it can be done. Disregard the fact the steps are already on level ground and pointed upward. Imagine the same set-up though, if that door was along a steep slope where the inserted feet would not reach the ground. By adding the support going straight down, the support could extend downward another couple feet easily, thus providing support to the steps so they are not dangling in the air. Agree... I've not come up with a viable solution for when the steps are too long and the slope outside the door is uphill, without digging a hole for the feet to lower into. (I'm still working on that scenario). But, for the dangling, hanging in the air, feet aren't long enough, and you are out of wood blocks to put under the feet to support them, this is an alternative. By the way, thinking about this, you could do the same thing with a 2x4. Just drill holes all the way through ever inch apart. Then you could made a support as long as you want. The goal is to keep the steps from dangling in mid air with no support under them.
DutchmenSport 07/18/19 07:13am Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
MorRyde steps - one solution

When the steps won't reach the ground because the campsite is slopped too much in one direction or another, here's a simple solution that may help. I called MorRyde and ordered a set of foot inserts (longer), and put them in. My camper has 2 doors, one on each side of the camper. Usually, because of the length of the camper (41 feet), even a slight incline, over 40 feet will cause the rear of the camper to be quite high. I've been using wooden blocks and a some folding steps on the ground to create a new step when they are too high. But supporting the steps themselves requires even more lumber or blocks or something to be put under the feet to build up the void. Here's what I came up with. Even if you had folding steps dangling in the air, you'll still have to add steps at the bottom to reach the ground somehow. The purpose for this is to support the MorRyde steps so they won't dangle in the air causing stress on the door threshold: https://i.imgur.com/llBKx6t.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jntw2nD.jpg Because you just never know when you are going to end up having to do this: https://i.imgur.com/yopQE05.jpg
DutchmenSport 07/17/19 09:31pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: They Better Not Screw Us Up

I think this movement is absolutely great! For once... after such a long, long, long time, something different is in the news and on people's minds that isn't political! Yea! This is a breath of fresh air! I remember many years ago when there was a national cry to boycot gas stations on one specific day in order to get oil company's attention that we (in the USA) were not going to pay high prices for fuel any more. Guess what? It didn't happen. At least, not enough participants to make a bit of difference. Life when on. People still purchased fuel, and nothing changed. Personally, my 'spirit' is with this group. But physically, my body stays at home! :)
DutchmenSport 07/17/19 12:01pm Around the Campfire
RE: Narrowed it down to 2

Just by looking at the floor plan of the 2 models, I'd pick the Grand Design. With the slides in, you cannot access the bathroom on the Forest River. Bathroom is accessible with the slide in on the Grand Design. Lack of access to the bathroom when traveling is a 100% deal breaker for us. Something to think about.....
DutchmenSport 07/17/19 05:34am Travel Trailers
RE: HOW to GET RID of a LOT of GOOD STUFF I Might Use Someday

Remove everything from the old RV and store it in the garage or basement of your home. Load only those things you need for your first trip and nothing else. You really don't need to drag along a 100 piece socket wrench set. No ... really ... you don't. Come-on' now.... you don't. Leave the temptation at home. Go camping. Now after your first trip, consider only the items you need for your current rig. What good is a 1 7/8 inch socket when the largest bolt on your rig is 3/4???? Remove that stuff that you just don't need and never will. Ah! Now you've got the idea! Once you've found your new balance with the smaller living space, you will be free to discard everything left behind.
DutchmenSport 07/16/19 01:25pm Truck Campers
RE: So I bought a new to me travel trailer and.....

Regarding the patch on the roof? 16x16 inches sounds about the size of a vent. What is on the inside of coach, on the ceiling, at that same spot? If the ceiling has some kind of patch there on the inside, I'd almost bet it was a vent that was removed. If there is nothing on the ceiling, all one solid ceiling with no patch 16x16 inches, then more than likely the roof had a tear. I imagine the roof is a rubber roof, and then, this would be a simple rubber patch over the tear. I suggest you get up on the roof and examine it more close, push around (or stand lightly) on the spot and see how solid it is. Examine the seam carefully and reseal it if it appears to be cracking. And FYI, don't feel bad or feel you should have buyer's remorse. Even seasoned "experts" will buy brand new RV, just to find multiple unwanted "surprises" after they take delivery. Focus on what is good about your camper, and just fix the items that need attention, one at time. And talking about "fixing" .... um ... welcome to your new occupation, "Jack-of-all-trades" because going forward, as long as you own your camper, you will always be fixing something on it! You'll get pretty good a carpentry, electrical, and plumbing! Be grateful you have a good head and are willing to tackle things yourself. You'll save yourself a lot of money on shop fees.
DutchmenSport 07/16/19 09:40am Travel Trailers
RE: Dogs

Well, dogs barking at the every end of their leash will most certainly keep (most) folks from cutting through the campsite! (That solves that problem). And will keep most people from snooping around looking for easy 5-finger-discount items too. (And that solves another concern). It's amazing how folks shy away from a barking dog! I'm not making "excuses" for the continuous barking, but I am saying there is some value to the controlled barking though!
DutchmenSport 07/15/19 11:41am General RVing Issues
RE: Downsizing from 38 ft Diesel Pusher

There are many previous posts and threads about the differences between a 5er and a TT, but I think all of the differences can be summarized into these simple categories: 1. Ease of hitching and towing 2. Storage 3. Height and Steps (or lack of) Coming from a life-time of TT experience to my first 5er was a very difficult learning experience for me. But, after 9 months of 5er ownership and thousands of miles of towing and usage now, the 5er is not so daunting any more. However, in many ways, I really miss the simplicity of the TT, instead of the new 5er with all the electronics on it. However, new TT's are becoming just as complicated, technology wise, as the most robust 5er's are now. I'm enjoying the 5er now. Which one is better? easier? I cannot say one over the other. If you have the correct tow vehicle and hitching system, both tow marvelously (mine always did with a 1 ton diesel dually.) The only thing that still catches me off guard with the 5er that I did not have issues with the TT is the height. Going from 11 feet to 14 feet high is a huge difference. But, once settled into the campsite, sitting in the front living room, over the king pin, looking "down" on the world is awesome! (there again, there are always trade-offs) Consider the usage of your tow vehicle when not towing. Consider the amount of storage in both types of trailers, and consider your age and navigating steps in a 5er that don't exist in a TT. Bad knees? Don't get the 5er. Good knees?.... well, they might wear out sooner than you anticipate. Which every way you go, do an over-kill on your tow vehicle. You'll not regret it when towing. Don't skimp on the vehicle.
DutchmenSport 07/15/19 09:50am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Securing batteries in forward compartment (Security)

My Montana has the standard CH750 lock on my battery access panel under the king pin. I wondered why they used a more robust lock on all the other outside hatches and then used the CH750 on battery and generator compartment? I don't know why. But, you can always swap out the existing lock with a more robust one that will look the same and not draw attention to it. You can check with any RV dealership parts store and they should have replacement locks for the standard CH750. I would not attach something like a hasp with a padlock. That's definitely an attention getter. But the best way to protect the batteries from theft is to simply keep them hidden, out of sight. Don't brag or rag-on with your RV neighbors at the site that you have these batteries and ... make sure your camper is fully insured. Remember the old expression, "Loose lips sink ships." Tell no one what you have, and no one will ever be tempted.
DutchmenSport 07/15/19 08:45am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Owners Manual

There may be exceptions, but RV owners manuals basically are a joke, if they exist at all. Keystone uses the same basic "owner's manual" for almost every Keystone camper they manufacture under their brand. (Same basic one in the last 3 of our campers). Being a 2000 model, chances are slim you'll find anything (but maybe not impossible). What does exist are the manuals for the various appliances in your RV, refrigerator, trailer frame, axles, stove, water heater, furnace, and microwave if you have one and any other appliances you may have. New campers (like mine) didn't even have these manuals included. I had to search each one out via on-line internet to piece meal all the components of my current camper. I had no clue how to operate either television, no instructions included. No clue how the refrigerator worked (all electric), how the ice maker worked, or anything. Everything is now on-line internet item-by-item owner's manuals for each specific item in your camper. Frustrating ... ABSOLUTELY YES. Forget about getting anything like wiring diagrams or plumbing schematic or anything like that. RV manufactures absolutely do not publish those type of documents. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but "it is what it is." Your biggest source of help is the internet, appliance and parts manufacturer web sites, and YouTube videos. Yours being a motor home, you might get lucky and still have an owner's manual on the engine and chassis. Ford-Chevy-or other may be able to help you with that if you don't have the basic operators manual for the main chassis.
DutchmenSport 07/13/19 03:50pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Metal roof

Any way to spend a few $$$ and simply lay a new roof with a material that never needs maintenance, like rolled roof shingling? Something like this? https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d08593ca8f49e89854a74e64dbc3665e-c
DutchmenSport 07/13/19 11:09am Travel Trailers
RE: Campground Breakers - EDITED

Simple answer, yes .... breakers do wear out if tripped and/or flipped on and off a lot. (some are more resilient to off-on / and-or / being blown where others are not.) Age and wear does play a factor.
DutchmenSport 07/13/19 10:58am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Best way to clean tri-lam?

I've had good success with Mr. Clean Magic Eraser on the fabrics of all my camper awnings. After cleaning your camper fabric, try using a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser as a follow up. Make it good and wet and simply wipe it over the material and let it dry. I have found the chemicals in the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser prevents black and mold growth. One cleaning on my awnings a year and I never have mold or black (dead mashed bugs are a different matter though.) Anyway, it's something you might try. Remember, with Mr. Clean Magic Erasers, never scrub a non solid or painted surface. Wipe only, no hard pressure. (If in doubt, test a small area first, see what happens). FYI, when we our tent camper (pop-up), I'd clean the fabric, then when dry, spray the dickens out of it with tent spray sealer. It seems to help, until I discovered the Mr. Clean, and then I never had problems again. Good luck.
DutchmenSport 07/13/19 10:50am Truck Campers
RE: Replacing dinette with free-standing table & chairs

My last 2 campers, both had stand alone, free standing table and 4 chairs. Both campers the table was screwed through the feet to the floor. In my previous camper, I turned the table 45 degrees to make better passage and removed 2 chairs. Eventually, the table and chairs came out completely when we got a true household, 3 seater, 2 recliner couch. That trailer came with hooks already on the floor to strap tie downs to so the chairs would not move. I added more and had them all over. They were so small, and because they were in carpet, you never noticed them at all. They actually came in real handy on the hide-a-bed couch where that bottom drawer kept coming open when in transit. My current camper has the same hooks for the chairs, and I've added a few more in different spots in the current camper too. Buy the way, these are actually picture frame hooks. You won't find them in the hardware section at any Hardware Store or Wall Mart. But you'll find plenty where the picture frames are located. They are very, very strong, and take a very short screw. Here's some photos of the Outback TT, 2 campers ago: https://i.imgur.com/B33I855.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xDpvvcX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ruxcI16.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1ptIXJu.jpg
DutchmenSport 07/13/19 08:47am General RVing Issues
RE: Gas TV for a year long trip

Sounds like you've already made up your mind and covered all your rational and excuses. Just do it now. I don't think anything anyone says will change your mind. Do-able, yes.
DutchmenSport 07/12/19 12:03pm Tow Vehicles
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