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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
I am hoping that you folks are right. I could self insure. But replacing an engine, transmission, generator, refrigerator can set you back a whole bunch. But then again it's $4,000 for the service plans which I would have to exceed in repairs in order to break even. So, guess I will think about this a little more.
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01/27/21 09:54pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Since Cruise America gives the option of purchasing Power Train and Coach extended service agreements along with the purchase of the motor home, I am wondering if any Cruise America owners were able to get them on their own without going through Cruise America? Many of the extended service agreements will not apply to units that are over 100,000 miles. I guess that CA has agreements with companies to cover their units regardless of mileage. If there are companies out there that would cover mileage over 100,000 and would sell to a private individual I would appreciate knowing about it. :@
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01/26/21 07:33am |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Just ordered one of the 19G's today and will be available for pickup February 25th. Will get it professionally inspected including fluids analysis before final payment. Don't think I will be getting the Extended Service Agreements. CA pays up to $300 for a one way car rental to Orlando. Will keep the forum appraised of the progress.
Congrats!!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/402432987512698
Congratulations, Do they refurbish in Orlando ? (Or Kissemmee)
Kissimmee is in Orlando actually what you might call a suburb. The Cruise America facility is located in Kissimmee.
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01/24/21 09:27pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
By the way, does CA give you any of the supporting equipment such as Water Pressure Regulator, 30 AMP Surge Protector, Water Hose and Sewage Line, etc.?
Sewer hose is likely included, but that is about it.
Definitely no surge protector.
Good luck!
-Chris
Pretty much what I thought :S
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01/24/21 03:26pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
From what I have read in other posts it seems that they don't give you much. Some others here have bought a start up kit Like this one It would be a good idea to have something like this when you go to pick it up just in case.
It is what I received when I bought mine from El Monte RV. They also gave me a set of Leveling Ramps
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Floridastorm
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01/24/21 03:24pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
From what I have read in other posts it seems that they don't give you much. Some others here have bought a start up kit Like this one It would be a good idea to have something like this when you go to pick it up just in case.
It is what I received when I bought mine from El Monte RV. They also gave me a set of Leveling Ramps
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01/24/21 03:17pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
From what I have read in other posts it seems that they don't give you much. Some others here have bought a start up kit Like this one It would be a good idea to have something like this when you go to pick it up just in case.
It is what I received when I bought mine from El Monte RV. They also gave me a set of Leveling Ramps
Thanks. Have been listing the starter things that I would need and this kit will be a part of that list.
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01/24/21 03:16pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Hi
I ordered a 28a2017 through the Manassas va. Location . Anyone have any information about getting an inspection in that area . They say they are refurbished in Mesa Az. And then driven to va. Via .hired driver or 1 way rental. Has anyone purchased extended warranty and attempted to use it . Should I expect or ask for anew set of tires . Should batteries be new ? Do they do a complete trans mission fluid change with a new screen.
I skipped the warranty when I looked at the small print. The 30 day one is quite comprehensive though so make sure you take a trip in that time.
They don't change fluids - or test them. I had a complete fluid test and was told "well you can change it if you want". I did.
The battery will be original as long as it holds some charge. The tires will be as is unless illegal.
I did use an outside inspector (in Denver so not a lot of good for you I'm afraid) and I'm glad I did. When they refurbished the roof they didn't finish it correctly.
Thanks for the information
According to the Cruise America brochure and the Orlando Sales Manager they provide a 3 month/3,000 mile Power Train Warranty. We will plan on using the motor home quite a bit within that 3 months in order to shake out any imperfections. By the way, does CA give you any of the supporting equipment such as Water Pressure Regulator, 30 AMP Surge Protector, Water Hose and Sewage Line, etc.?
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01/24/21 09:51am |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Just ordered one of the 19G's today and will be available for pickup February 25th. Will get it professionally inspected including fluids analysis before final payment. Don't think I will be getting the Extended Service Agreements. CA pays up to $300 for a one way car rental to Orlando. Will keep the forum appraised of the progress.
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01/22/21 09:38pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
I created a Facebook group for 19G owners and/or those interested. If you are a social butterfly and want to join here's the link - https://www.facebook.com/groups/402432987512698.
The only reason for considering the Extended Service Agreements would be for catastrophic things like engine, transmission/drivetrain, and generator failure. It is true, though, that not many people complain about catastrophic failure with CA motor homes. So, an extended agreement may be redundant. I have looked into El Monte. However, I don't think they have this 19G type model or anything comparable. Yes, I'm aware that using our motorhome the way that we want to will cost more than using our SUV and, in fact, will probably cost us more than the average RV owners who stay in RV parks and/or boondock. That's fine as we would only be going on trips 3 or 4 times a year for a week or two at a time. Other times we might go locally for a daytrip or overnight.
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01/20/21 01:58pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
I agree that the 19RD is set up much better than the 19G. Does CA sell the ex rental RD's in the US? And, I wonder if they would have generators as the rental fleet in Canada doesn't have generators.
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01/20/21 01:46pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Have conversed in person and via email with the Cruise America Sales Manager and he emailed me both of the Extended Service Agreements for powertrain and coach. The Cornerstone Service Agreement seems to cover everything, powertrain and coach. The United Service Protection covers only the powertrain. CA told me that the Cornerstone Agreement covers only the coach even though it shows the coverage for both. If the Cornerstone Agreement did cover both then I would not need the United Service Agreement for an extra $1,800. Can anyone clarify this for me? You can see by the agreement itself that it does cover both.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/KtbxLrjNXkMvcXRxNqFvwvxtvKkwbLwxjB?projector=1&messagePartId=0.3
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01/18/21 01:03pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
For those folks that have bought a 19G unit from Cruise America how do you like it? Does it afford enough room for two senior citizen adults. Most of the time I don't believe we would be using RV Parks as we normally like AIRbnb properties. Just interested in using the 19G traveling to and from and exploring wherever we land in comfort.
Q. How do you like it?
A. First thing you oughta do is go back and read through some pages in this thread (if you haven't)...nothing but happy campers, I'd say. I don't recall seeing a post from someone who regrets their purchase of a 19G from Cruise America.
Q. Enough room for two?
A. Short answer - yes. Have you been in a 19G? If not, go inside one with your spouse and see how easily you two can get into and out of the over the cab bed. Don't they have a location local to you?
Q. (not a question) Just interested in using the 19G traveling to and from and exploring wherever we land in comfort.
A. Here's where you lost me. If you are just going to stay in an AirBnb and not a campground then what's the point? Or are you saying that your AirBnb locations would be so far apart that you need something to sleep in in the interim as you drive between separated AirBnbs?
Thanks for the response. Yes, I have read over this thread a couple of times. However, just wanted more assurance from folks that may have bought the 19G specifically and what their pros and cons were for that unit. Just this week we stopped in at the CA Orlando facility, looked through the 19G, 23A, and 28A, and spoke at length with Jason who is the sales manager. We are most interested in the 19G due to its small size and subsequent maneuverability and also it seems to fit us quite well. Being very senior citizens I want to be able to park and travis areas where a larger unit would be a difficulty. We are not like most RV people. Really not into the RV lifestyle such as boon docking, RV parks, rallies, etc. Our purpose for a motor home is to get us from point A to point B comfortably and to be able to explore comfortably when we get to point B. For the last few years we have stayed in AIRbnb's and will continue to do so even with a motor home. The difference in expense is not really that great with decent RV parks now approaching the price of some hotels. I guess just different strokes for different folks.
Appreciate the response and information Twisted Gray
Let me explain a little more in detail. We are both Senior Citizens, 80 and 72. For the last few years we've been driving our SUV to various destinations and en-route staying in Hampton Inns. At our destinations we usually stay in AIRbnb properties for up to a week. As we get older it becomes more difficult to drive long distances in a car(SUV)having to stop every so often for bathroom breaks, food, and resting. The same difficulties entail when we get to our destination and having to use our car to get around. With a small motor home we can drive to our destinations and explore at our destinations in comfort. Still staying overnight at Hampton Inns and AIRbnb's will maximize our comfort over staying in an RV Park at night. No hooking up, unhooking, leveling, dumping the black tank a lot, lack of Wi Fi and TV, and putting up with typical noise to include rug rats and animals in RV Parks. If we did stay in RV Parks it would have to be in the higher end parks or adult only parks where the price would approach that of Hampton Inn and AIRbnb properties. I don't mean to sound officious. When you get to be my age you are not much interested in going along to get along. Only what's best for yourself and your partner.
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01/18/21 12:42pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
For those folks that have bought a 19G unit from Cruise America how do you like it? Does it afford enough room for two senior citizen adults. Most of the time I don't believe we would be using RV Parks as we normally like AIRbnb properties. Just interested in using the 19G traveling to and from and exploring wherever we land in comfort.
Q. How do you like it?
A. First thing you oughta do is go back and read through some pages in this thread (if you haven't)...nothing but happy campers, I'd say. I don't recall seeing a post from someone who regrets their purchase of a 19G from Cruise America.
Q. Enough room for two?
A. Short answer - yes. Have you been in a 19G? If not, go inside one with your spouse and see how easily you two can get into and out of the over the cab bed. Don't they have a location local to you?
Q. (not a question) Just interested in using the 19G traveling to and from and exploring wherever we land in comfort.
A. Here's where you lost me. If you are just going to stay in an AirBnb and not a campground then what's the point? Or are you saying that your AirBnb locations would be so far apart that you need something to sleep in in the interim as you drive between separated AirBnbs?
Thanks for the response. Yes, I have read over this thread a couple of times. However, just wanted more assurance from folks that may have bought the 19G specifically and what their pros and cons were for that unit. Just this week we stopped in at the CA Orlando facility, looked through the 19G, 23A, and 28A, and spoke at length with Jason who is the sales manager. We are most interested in the 19G due to its small size and subsequent maneuverability and also it seems to fit us quite well. Being very senior citizens I want to be able to park and travis areas where a larger unit would be a difficulty. We are not like most RV people. Really not into the RV lifestyle such as boon docking, RV parks, rallies, etc. Our purpose for a motor home is to get us from point A to point B comfortably and to be able to explore comfortably when we get to point B. For the last few years we have stayed in AIRbnb's and will continue to do so even with a motor home. The difference in expense is not really that great with decent RV parks now approaching the price of some hotels. I guess just different strokes for different folks.
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01/16/21 09:22am |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
For those folks that have bought a 19G unit from Cruise America how do you like it? Does it afford enough room for two senior citizen adults. Most of the time I don't believe we would be using RV Parks as we normally like AIRbnb properties. Just interested in using the 19G traveling to and from and exploring wherever we land in comfort.
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Floridastorm
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01/15/21 08:24am |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Yes El Monte RV still has their 1 year/12 month warranty,Cruise America discontinued theirs and now only has a 30 day 3000 mile warranty.
I was told when I bought my RV at El Monte RV that they would get a extended warranty if you wanted one,but they didn't push it as Cruise America does.
I was also told the reason being that they did not push it is that most times the extended service contract did not perform as promised giving El Monte RV a bad name.
El Monte RV does their own repair and maintenance at 2 locations one in Los Angeles CA and one in Orlando Florida They also will make arrangements for warranty work at many locations across the US.
Sounds as though they are a pretty decent company. They have a 2020 Class C 23 FT Coachmen for $43,000. Their units seem to be more fully equipped than CA and also 2 or 3 years newer for a higher price. Their facility in Orlando is only 70 miles from my house.
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12/24/20 08:33pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
El Monte rental purchases I believe still come with a 12 month/12,000 mile power train warranty. Do they offer any other service warranties that one can purchase, similar to Cruise America, since high mileage RVs are generally not eligible for extended warranties or service contracts? Also, does El Monte do repair and maintenance work similar to a regular RV dealer? If not or you don't take it to El Monte, who does your repair and Maintenance? The same question applies to a former Cruise America rental unit.
Thanks Much,
Dave
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12/24/20 12:38pm |
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RE: Honest RV Dealers - Are there any?
Google reviews are very helpful. RvDirect (now RVONE I think) are about as close as I have ever gotten to a wholesale direct to buyer. They are a dealer but usually you have to know what you want and order. I've never bought anything from them but when shopping I found them to have the best deal up front and could pit other dealers against that number. They don't carry all brands and models.
Ever notice they (RVOne) do not use the word "wholesale" in any of their advertising? Thats because its illegal to use in the states they have a presence in.
One of the few states where that word can be used willy nilly is Ohio, which is why RV Wholesalers and Jeff Couch can use it in their advertising. Nothing really wholesale with them, they are just dealers the same as any other. The percieved lower prices simply reflect being close to the factories and less delivery costs. RV wholesalers pick their units up themselves at the factories. Take delivery cost out of the equation and any dealer could hit the same numbers if they cared to.
IMO 99% of anyone in the RV Industry be it manufacturers, suppliers, or dealers, are low life bottom feeders and would sell their grandmother to make a buck.
Bottom feeders also equates with car dealers. All of them should be put in jail for crimes against humanity. Finance managers should be tortured first by having to listen to their lies and propaganda 24 hours a day straight with no sleep. Had a good friend who advanced from salesman to finance manager in a local dealership. Was making good money and benefits. Was let go after 1 year as he refused to con people and take advantage of them. The stories he tells.
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11/23/20 12:44pm |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
Hi all,
Thanks again for the help with finding someone to inspect our unit while in Mesa. We ended up using Nick with https://rveagle.com and he was fabulous. Can't recommend him enough.
He found a list of items that needed to be reviewed with CA. They took the list and dealt with all!
We did have to stay another night in Mesa but not a huge deal.
We drove from Mesa to DFW, TX right after we purchased and have been here since. We'll post additional info coming up. We've had some head scratching issues with the CA sales person, financing and now that we're in TX we realize we have a couple leaks.
We're excited to start our RV adventuring though!!!
You have a couple of leaks right after you had the unit inspected? Did the inspection service do a diagnostic leak detection and if so did CA seal the areas in question? Did the Inspection Service have a warranty on their work?
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Floridastorm
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11/20/20 11:30am |
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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?
When you purchase a motor home from CA do they take care of obtaining Registration and payment of Sales Tax? Do they also try to load up your purchase with other incidentals like Dealer Prep, etc., etc? Also, are you able to negotiate the final price before signing or is the price pretty well fixed?
As others have said here - I was made to believe there is no price negotiation. Given current time - I was made to believe there is a lot of demand and also sales person I worked with I felt zero pressure, spent lot of time answering all questions, didn't even ask for my phone/email, showed me waiting list for refurbished etc. etc. which made me feel maybe price is not negotiable. But maybe on a given day it is? Who knows. Other issue was he said only few 2016s remain and 2017s will be 4K higher (but again no pressure).
They do all paperwork, smog, DMV registration etc. (Collect fees too). Just as you would buy from dealer.
No dealer add-ons or other stuff. (I guess the only add-on would be warranties - I made it clear that I did not want it at the beginning and he never mentioned it again over next few visits before I decided). He didn't even mention Awning - I had to ask him after purchase.
Hope this helps.
:)Thanks
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11/19/20 09:06am |
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