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RE: Campsite Squatters

Yeah, we should do everything the way we did 40 years ago, and this issue has little to do with tree huggers. Dumping your germs and food on the ground would be better than nothing, but since we have an alternative, not dumping correctly is just being lazy. But, if it really isn’t an issue. Feel free to put a sign up in your front yard to encourage people to dump their grey water in your front yard. Report back how that works for you. :D +2 Yes indeed! Tell us all how that works for you and your neighbors. Step up and show us how it's no problem. Give us all your home address so we can come by and dump our gray water on your lawn. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to most everything in life. https://www.boondockersbible.com/knowledgebase/can-i-dump-my-gray-water-on-the-ground/ (Ignore the "US Forestry Service". It's the U.S. Forest Service. Sloppy writing.....just like dumping gray water on your campsite.) https://www.gonewiththewynns.com/eliminating-graywater-burning-man "Why does Gray Water smell so bad? Decomposing food mixed with oils, fecal matter from showering, urine…this all creates disgusting bacteria that is literally alive, hence the awful smells associated with waste water. Sometimes I swear RV Gray Water can smell worse than Black Water!" https://lnt.org/ Remember Leave No Trace? Used to be common knowledge and a good idea. That's pretty rich coming from enviro saviors such as you guys lol. You have enough stuff in your signatures to have killed 500 trees and polluted at least two streams manufacturing it, and evidently burn fossil fuel as fast as it can come out of the ground.
GDS-3950BH 08/30/20 10:15am Truck Campers
RE: Cracked frame Heartland/Lippert - Warranty but no help!

Yeah, no, don't do the DIY welding thing. Not only could void your warranty but also could void your insurance as well as make the failure worse. Drives me nuts we people suggest someone just fire up a buzz box and start blazing away like they're using a glue gun on a Christmas ornament. This work should be done by a professional weldor and one chosen by the manufacturer, not you. You do not have to be a "professional welder" to lean how to weld. The OP's warranty was essentially worthless the day he purchased the trailer as stated in his posting. Lippert will use every play in their playbook to get out of warranty claims as will a lot of the RV manufacturers, the OP is not the only person to learn that the hard way. Could void your insurance? Come on man. By that logic you should not change brake pads on your car nor put new shingles on the roof of your home yourself. Considering you have to learn to weld before becoming a professional weldor, you seem to be confused. Anyone can get a couple of pieces of metal to stick together. It's the morons that think this qualifies them to do anything more then weld garden ornaments that are my issue when it comes to making proper repairs on something just slightly more critical. Like a couple thousands pounds, hurtling down the road with other people around. And if you don't know how to properly change your brake pads or shingle a roof, then no, you shouldn't do it and yes, if you do it incorrectly, it can void your insurance coverage. LOL......Semantics. I know welders with stacks of cert papers who can not weld a garden ornament together. Have seen their "professional" work rejected so many times on jobs in the building and heavy industrial sectors I can't count them all. Plenty of unqualified roofers and mechanics around also. I have yet to see or hear of anyone's auto or homeowners insurance being voided over it.
GDS-3950BH 08/30/20 02:00am Tech Issues
RE: Cracked frame Heartland/Lippert - Warranty but no help!

For those interested here are some documents from Lippert that I believe apply to the repair needed. Saying that as I was looking for links to post for them they appear dated.. Heartland Document - Lippert Repair and here is one from the NHTSA but the document date is 2009 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2011/RCRIT-11V486-1111.pdf That is basically what is needed. The break next to the bottom flange will need some additional attention. The cross pieces do the same job as the X-Factor. I made my own and bolted them in to allow removal for service above. And there you have it......Lippert even has SOP's and assigned number parts in place. Sort of makes one think why the reinforcement plate and tubes are not used when fabbing their junk to begin with. They're simply gambling on folks not using the rig enough during the warranty period for the issues to crop up.
GDS-3950BH 08/30/20 01:55am Tech Issues
RE: Water damaged subfloor, how to replace advice?

OSB = Optimal swelling board. It's cheaper than plywood and perfect if it is never going to take on any water. Did you ever see what happens to OSB sub flooring if a builder drags his rear end and does not dry in a new house quickly while building it? I've seen every T&G and butt joint swell to where they need sanded or hit with a grinder prior to floor coverings. I have also seen sheets of the stuff that swell up from 3/4" thick to over 1" from taking on some H2O. Use exterior rated plywood. For a the minimal amount you'll need marine grade would be a wise choice ($70-$80 sheet).
GDS-3950BH 08/29/20 03:04am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Campsite Squatters

Some OH state parks have stone sinks for you to pour gray water in, they run into a pipe that daylights out into the woods a few feet away. WV's drain into a gravel sump which overloads quickly then runs off to wherever. Prior to the 1980s at state parks everyone had a hose run off into the woods for gray water before the tree huggers came along. The campgrounds, trees, and wildlife is/are all still there.....Defund the gray water police.
GDS-3950BH 08/29/20 02:40am Truck Campers
RE: Cracked frame Heartland/Lippert - Warranty but no help!

Yeah, no, don't do the DIY welding thing. Not only could void your warranty but also could void your insurance as well as make the failure worse. Drives me nuts we people suggest someone just fire up a buzz box and start blazing away like they're using a glue gun on a Christmas ornament. This work should be done by a professional weldor and one chosen by the manufacturer, not you. You do not have to be a "professional welder" to lean how to weld. The OP's warranty was essentially worthless the day he purchased the trailer as stated in his posting. Lippert will use every play in their playbook to get out of warranty claims as will a lot of the RV manufacturers, the OP is not the only person to learn that the hard way. Could void your insurance? Come on man. By that logic you should not change brake pads on your car nor put new shingles on the roof of your home yourself.
GDS-3950BH 08/29/20 02:13am Tech Issues
RE: Replace flat tire with Torflex suspension

Some with torsion type axles say the trailer aid type ramps doesn't work with that type suspension. Whatever method you use make a dry run at home to see if it works. Out in the middle of no where isn't the place to find out it didn't work. Trailer Aid works with Torflex axles, it depends on which "start angle" the axle was ordered with. The user has to be smarter than the axle and trailer aid. Trailer Aid comes in two different versions, standard and plus. The plus version adds an additional inch of lift. In any case a block of 2x10 under the ramp will usually give you enough lift if the start angle of the axle is such that you need it. If you have a Lippert frame I would suggest not jacking under it unless its an absolute neccesity (as the OP's Windjammer has). They are lucky to stay intact just with normal use. I have used a piece of true 2x4 oak cribbing that spans both torflex mounting brackets when we had a Rockwood with Torflex axles, and wanted to use a bottle or floor jack to get both wheels up at the same time. On conventional sprung suspension a floor jack below the u bolts on one of the tubes. I'd never place a jack under a paper Lippert frame.
GDS-3950BH 08/25/20 01:52am Travel Trailers
RE: Roof ripples

Keystone? Better check their reviews. https://www.facebook.com/RV-Buyers-Beware-of-Keystone-Trailers-219691451377639/ LOL......Keystone, Forest River, Thor, Winnebago / Grand Design, Just fill in the name you wish as you can find those bad reviews for anything out there. Don't buy anything :B
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 02:45pm General RVing Issues
RE: Granddesign 31MB

Don't forget that Grand Design is now under Winnebago and lots or report of poor service now. Yes......the Design is not so Grand any longer LOL. The same slapped together junk as the next guy, pushed out the door without any QC or QA, while they start the warranty clock ticking with the knowledge the dealer network will most likely jam you up long enough they don't have to pay out on it. Sadly I predicted it when they opened the doors based on who the people were who started the company, and the past history they had in the RV Industry. Used car salesmen have higher ethics than anyone in ownership or management in the RV Industry.
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 02:38pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Granddesign 31MB

One other thing is that Grand Design customer service is noted to be one of the best in the industry for helping out if there is an issue. Perhaps "were noted" should apply. They were noted by us in 2014 to be one of the best for helping out. It seems now days they changed. They were not much help on our 3950BH frame issues and slideout issues. Both them and Lippert used every excuse in the book including more or less telling us to take a hike, too bad, two months out of warranty. Probably why we unloaded it after 14 months of BS from GD and so many issues we lost count and not counting the many issues I repaired myself out of pocket that were clear warranty issues. They sent me a few parts.....big deal.
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 07:37am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Are all new RVs built this bad or is it just mine?

Fortunately when I looked for my RV, I found a dealer who could help. He recommended a manufacturer who does a quality job. Maybe the fashion and style were a bit lagging, but the construction and design were not. And that manufacturer is??????? When I was looking for a camper, I was lucky enough to find Bill Penney at Truck Camper Warehouse. There were several brands he advised against including a couple of the most popular brands. He recommended Northstar. I ended up buying a used Northstar from him. My Northstar is now approaching 20 years old and is in great condition. It has been used for full timing and has been driven for close to 100,000 miles. Sure some parts have worn out. I have had to replace 2 of the Happijac motors and 1 jack due to water intrusion. The water pump wore out and I also had to replace the sensor for hot water tank. The plastic hinge on the stove vent broke and I replaced that with a metal hinge I made from a coat hangar. I have had to replace the propane sensor twice and I am on my third set of propane pigtails. When it comes to poor design and poor construction, I have only had two issues. The kitchen countertop was made with a pressboard core that does not hold up to water. Northstar used a router to bevel the edges of the countertop and water started to damage the countertop. I had to seal the edges with epoxy, otherwise there would have been substantial damage instead of barely noticeable swelling. The second design issue was just crazy. There is a plastic box where the wiring from the happijac motor enters the camper. The cover was installed upside down with the wire entering from the top instead of the bottom. After years of use the seal failed and left just a pinhole where water could enter the camper. I did not notice that when the camper was left outside over the winter. The water damaged the corner of a storage compartment and I had to spend an entire weekend fixing the damage. All things considered I feel that I got a well made camper. Thanks. But 20 years ago was 20 years ago. I can see drop that has taken place in quality industry wide just in the last 10 years. And truck campers are a niche market that includes a few manufacturers whose only make them exclusivly like the one you mention. Very few are produced on a yearly basis compared to travel trailers and 5th wheels. Some folks swear by Artic Fox, Nash, etc when it comes to travel trailers. I have seen POS's in those brands just the same as the big manufacturers
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 06:41am General RVing Issues
RE: Are all new RVs built this bad or is it just mine?

new rv,s should come with a three year warrenty, after all they spend the first two years sitting in the dealers lot waiting on repairs. Or maybe dealers need a different model for selling RVs. Something like a lease-purchase plan where you only pay the monthly lease for those months the RV is in your possession and after the warranty period expires you have the option to purchase the unit. But the other big problem with RV warranties that needs to be addressed by the dealers and manufacturers is what is covered. The RV industry needs a bumper-to-bumper single warranty much like what you get on a new car or truck so you're not having to shuffle between 15 different warranties and manufacturers to get things fixed on your new RV. And manufacturers need to streamline the process for dealers so a dealer isn't left holding onto the unit while it waits for authorization from the manufacturer to fix something under warranty. Most dealers I have seen have a constant shingle out for mechanics / techs, call them what you will. And the vast majority of RV techs I have personally had experience with are low grade hacks who have made issues worse that they were involved with, or created new ones during the process. Where we bought our Grand Design they had a huge easel at the front door with a sign "RVIA Certified Technicians". What it did not say was out of a dozen or more two were certified which doesn't guarantee squat, and the others were hacks they found somewhere, perhaps the corner bar.
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 06:33am General RVing Issues
RE: Are all new RVs built this bad or is it just mine?

http://traveltrailernation.com/2017/05/06/is-the-rv-industry-in-a-death-spiral/ Search for "RV Industry Death Spiral" by Greg Gerber and read chapter 2 for the reasons why. Unfortunately his website and opinions were both squashed out by the RV Industry Association a few years ago.
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 04:33am General RVing Issues
RE: Are all new RVs built this bad or is it just mine?

Fortunately when I looked for my RV, I found a dealer who could help. He recommended a manufacturer who does a quality job. Maybe the fashion and style were a bit lagging, but the construction and design were not. And that manufacturer is???????
GDS-3950BH 08/23/20 04:28am General RVing Issues
RE: Are all new RVs built this bad or is it just mine?

Forest River is no worse than anyone else including Grand Design. Our Grand Design Solitude 3950BH was a hastily assembled piece of total garbage. Despite the claims of Solitude being their luxury line, theyre made from the same trash everyone else uses and slapped together by pieceworkers with no QC or QA whatsoever. Lippert junk everywhere from frame, to windows. The frame deflected at suspension and leveler attachment points. All the AC units failed. The Furrion TVs and other electronics failed. 2 of 4 slideouts have had major issues. Front cap leaked from day one and due to frame flex can not be kept sealed. Kept it for 14 months, basically using it for what amounted to one season. Thanks to Covid we were able to unload the POS without taking too much of a hit.
GDS-3950BH 08/22/20 01:03pm General RVing Issues
RE: 50 AMP Tents

A 50 amp site is a (upto) 50 amp site, regardless of what you are in. If they pay for a site, it is theirs to use whether they are in a sleeping bag, tent, 5vr or Prevost. It matters not whether others like it or not. Great point......could that be the reason that the vast majority of power pedestals on what are listed as 50 amp sites have a duplex 20 amp receptacle, a 30 amp receptacle, and a 50 amp receptacle? Or is the duplex 20 for the party lights on someone with a Prevosts awning? "All about me folks" ROFLMAO!!!! It sure seems those are the folks in the 50 amp rigs. Despite having one I have yet to be triggered when I can not reserve a 50 amp site because its already reserved, or show up and some are taken by a tent, a popup, or a converted minivan. The demographic of these boards makes this whole thread not a surprise.
GDS-3950BH 08/16/20 06:43am General RVing Issues
RE: 50 AMP Tents

We've seen the same things. They get away with because the Camp Hoasts let them,..usually,until someone says something. They like the larger spaces necessary for Big RVs...and then there is the nut factor. Soem do it op purpose because they resent and or don't want RVs near them, in their camp ground etc..and ocuppying the Big RV space the RVs can't usually fit in the tent sites around them giving them lots of space. I have yet to see a campground, be it state, fed, ACOE etc., that have a site with electric only or FHU's sandwiched between undeveloped tent sites. Maybe at the end of a loop where the utilities stop you may have 1. The utilities are installed from site to site without skipping sites. I have also never seen a rule at any public campground stating a person with a tent has to take an undeveloped site or denying them a developed site. A person with a tent has just as much right to take a FHU or electric only site as a person with a Prevost. They both pay the same price. If the tenter reserved it first so be it, reserve earlier or go to commercial campgrounds where they assign you your site and you know what you get in advance if you take issue with it. I have hosted at numerous public campgrounds and assigning sites based on what RV a person has was never a responsibility nor have I seen it done anywhere.
GDS-3950BH 08/15/20 11:45am General RVing Issues
RE: Air conditioner supply shortage?

This is only the beginning. Try to go to Wal-Mart and buy a bicycle (or any bike store really) Hand sanitizer anyone? Generally lots of items are just "out of stock" right now. Yeah they're available but not at normal retail prices! IMO, Craigslist and EBAY are still good sources but YOU MUST CONFIRM AVAILABILITY and have it be acceptable (to you) before you plop down your $$$$. Chum lee Or above ground pools, trampolines, fishing gear, plastic toys, fitness equipment, kayaks/canoes, basically anything made in China and a good bit of stuff made in the good ole USA is MIA also. Firearms and ammo? Good luck with the search. Even on Amazon the product page may say "in stock". The shipping confirmation email may come late or not at all. Its like shooting *****. This forum censors the word cra_ps? LOL. Software designed for 5 yr olds.
GDS-3950BH 08/11/20 03:00am Tech Issues
RE: travel trailer towing difficulty

Stay away from Cougar unless you want constant trouble because of NO quality control. If one is looking for any quality control they should stay away from all of them. Quality control from the RV Industry? That's funny.
GDS-3950BH 08/04/20 09:34am Travel Trailers
RE: Shifting An Automatic when towing.

Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the tach goes into the red and reads 9000 RPMs, that's BAD.
GDS-3950BH 08/01/20 05:04am Towing
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