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RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

I’m at about 150,000 miles, nearly all with the TC in the bed. Should I expect these problems after 150,000 miles of bone rattling holes and bumps? A properly set-up truck/ TC combo should last this duration (and more!) Respectfully, could driving habits be in play? The reason I ask this is because of (words to the effect) ... "getting airborne." This is quite disconcerting to read. A truck and camper should not be getting airborne. Perhaps slow down a bit? ...not accusing, just saying. I don’t think so. I’m the slowest thing on the roads out here. I barely keep pace with traffic. I have long lines of traffic behind me I pull over for. Maybe the bed isn’t up to the task? Is there a difference in carrying ability between the 2500/3500 250/350 beds themselves? I thought the bed was all the same and the difference came down to axles, suspension, wheels.
HadEnough 07/26/21 01:19pm Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

I am not seeing OP’s sig for the TC setup in question… If "the bed is getting crushed from the weight of the TC" then perhaps the truck and camper are mismatched- i.e. too heavy of a camper for the truck or not enough truck for the camper on it… especially if components are breaking. That’s my fear. It’s kind of mismatched. Ram 2500 with Dana Axle, differential cooling fins, extra leaf spring kit, air bags/shocks, aftermarket high load wheels, load range H commercial regroovable tires, exhaust brake, 6 speed manual heavy duty transmission, Cummins turbo diesel, edge performance computer, mods to the front “tower” area that holds the front of the bed up. These crushed and I fixed them by using blocking in place of the flimsy sheet metal. Maybe that’s what I need to do with the rear areas that are crushing? Arctic Fox TC
HadEnough 07/26/21 08:46am Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

Oh, sorry. I thought this was all caused from rust. I guess I have your situation confused with another member’s. In that case, I’d be reluctant to replace the bed with another factory bed. Maybe a flatbed is in order :):) No worries. I just get a little excitable. Appreciate the help and ideas. Hmmmm. I’ve been intrigued by a flatbed setup. They look kinda weird since the TC is made for a standard bed. Do people usually build some boxes around the edges or something for looks?
HadEnough 07/26/21 06:04am Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

Rusty???? What?? I don’t have a speck of rust on here. None. Zero. I don’t use my vehicles in places it ices, snows or has salt on the roads. The bed has been getting crushed from the weight of the TC over all the awful roads throughout this country. No, I don’t over tighten my Fastguns. Tightened as specified, using the little o ring indicator. The bed just can’t take getting airborne from unmarked speed bumps, potholes that rattle your teeth out, poor transitions on the roads from flat road to bridge, etc. The roads are so bad I go through front end components too and even had a front wheel fly off from a huge hole in the road. Broke my front end. It’s the roads and thousands and thousands of miles on them.
HadEnough 07/26/21 05:56am Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

That would depend on where you are and what year/brand you have. On ebay, I saw some as low as $450. I would buy a takeoff since there are plenty of them from people changing to flatbeds. Currently in Colorado traveling cross country. I can’t do this myself since I’m traveling and have nowhere to do it. It’s a 2002 Ram. Maybe I just do it when I get back in the fall?
HadEnough 07/26/21 02:50am Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

Seems like it’s going to keep failing. I’d replace the bed. Not what I wanted to hear, but I had a sneaking suspicion this is what should be done. Anyone ever done this before? How much did it cost?
HadEnough 07/25/21 07:22pm Truck Campers
RE: Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

I thought Torklift frame mounts attached to the frame and not the bed . Do you have a picture of yours ? They attach to both. The highest point on the tie down bolts right through the bed. https://www.torklift.com/images/gallery/tiedowns/td_360.gif height=480 width=640
HadEnough 07/25/21 07:20pm Truck Campers
Still Having Problems With TC and Truck

I got brand new Torklift forward frame mounts because the old ones were torn apart. They failed due to the “towers” failing that hold the bed and hold the top of the Torklift frame mounts. I installed blocks on the frame where the towers normally go and the bed is now at the right height and the Torklift front frame mounts are bolted to these non-moving parts and everything is good up there. BUT.... The right rear beam that holds the bed up from the air bag air spring is now crushed. So the right side of the bed is like 3”-4” lower than the left side which isn’t crushed. Also, the side wall of the bed has a rip in it just behind the rear window of the truck on the same side everything keeps going wrong on. It’s ripped where the box of the truck bed makes a 90 deg angle between the forward wall of the bed box and the passenger side wall of the bed box. The rip is about 4” long and has a vertical orientation. The entire passenger side fender/side of bed box is loose too. It can be rocked by hand a bit. The TC keeps on sliding over to that side and is uneven. Sits far more to the passenger side and also leans to that side because of the 3”-4” sag. What’s next to fix so it can keep going?? What would you do to correct all this? Everything I fixed up front where the front frame mounts are is working well. The bed is kind of falling apart now.
HadEnough 07/25/21 06:10pm Truck Campers
RE: Front Motorcycle Carrier

Have been on the road for 6 weeks or so with a front carrier. Half way across the country. I WAS stopped by a state trooper for maintaining my 50mph top speed up a hill to be kind to traffic backing up behind me. The speed limit dropped to 35 and I missed it. Just a warning for speeding. Never even looked at the front carrier. It’s been fine everywhere.
HadEnough 07/25/21 05:54pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

or get rid of all the tie downs with one of these. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0984/2782/products/Ultimate_MX_Haul_Full_1024x1024.jpg?v=1617211334 Looks great. Ideal. Can’t possibly work if you read the thread though.
HadEnough 06/25/21 07:03pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

I did have a minor disaster with this amateur strap setup. A length of strap came loose, going under the front wheel and beat up the bike a bit. It got ripped from around the bike HARD and broke some stuff. I have since trimmed the the long ends of the straps down. Now need to fix a few things on the bike because of it. Done! I went with the advice for the front mount. By some miracle, the headlights aren’t blocked. Now I just need to put some covers in place for the bugs. https://i.postimg.cc/D0GkKXFB/32016619-854-C-4-FDF-8-D0-E-47-CDE5-B18-AD6.jpg
HadEnough 06/25/21 01:37pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

So good work HadEnough! This went form idk what to do, to done in under a day! Now get going on that trip! Thank you!! It’s done and we are on the trip! Headed in your general direction from Florida https://i.ibb.co/26YcgsD/0-A55857-A-DFCB-4613-901-E-51-D3657-B0-AA1.jpg
HadEnough 06/25/21 01:23pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

Did you empty the gas tank on the bike? Front end collision with flammables right in front of me would have me extra worried. Nope. Only so many things you can really stress about in life without losing your mind. . That’s not one of them for me.
HadEnough 06/16/21 11:47am Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

Consider buying some 1 1/2 inch motorcycle tiedowns from a bike shop. The extra width makes it easier to attach and get loose. Also, ditch the super thin straps you have on the bike. There is a reason you frequently see shredded orange straps on the highways. They are super cheap and don’t hold up. Will do! It was at the top of my list today to get new straps. I don’t trust these ones. Seems they can wear through too easily. I’ll get thick ones. My high visibility spaghetti mess of straps was also a bad idea. They flapped around too much.
HadEnough 06/16/21 11:46am Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

Done! I went with the advice for the front mount. By some miracle, the headlights aren’t blocked. Now I just need to put some covers in place for the bugs. https://i.postimg.cc/D0GkKXFB/32016619-854-C-4-FDF-8-D0-E-47-CDE5-B18-AD6.jpg
HadEnough 06/16/21 08:33am Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

I think you’re right. Thanks! After sleeping on this, the front mount is the way to go. Thanks for the tips on how to reinforce them. I’ll fab up the front rack and go with that. MC on front dual receiver would be a lot safer than at end of 48" extension. Also out of the way for rear access. 2 days before you leave though... https://i.postimg.cc/YSywP3Gc/0406-AD8-B-7749-472-D-A19-D-96149-FF57-F4-C.jpg width=640 Few ways, with all in the downward rotation, welding may stop pivoting. But you'd want to ensure there in position to easily slide in rack. Cleaning for welding with them mounted be a pain. Could add another bolt in close fit holes to the angle/tube. Even thru the flat plate or both sides. Drilling while mounted again would painful. Or could utilize existing frame holes on other side and 'pivot' bolt and add a piece of flat bar. https://i.postimg.cc/Qt2Z8dJ0/12-DB20-D0-8-BDC-4-A6-C-890-C-1-F97-A9-F299-B7.jpg width=640 Lastly maybe remove rear bolt, insert/drive a very tight fitting tube/pipe between tube walls so when bolt reinserted you can tighten the heck out of it with out tube wall yielding. If the holes thru tube are considerably larger than bolts, (only way I can see the pivoting action) could increase bolt size.
HadEnough 06/15/21 04:32am Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

Leave the moto behind? OMG! Anyway... with weight on those front receivers they will not move down the tubes will "swing" up into the frame and stop. But with 500lbs of bike and carrier there could be floppage on the upstroke on highway whoop de dos Can you weld the L bracket to the tubes on the front? You can get 3 welds on each. With the fastener sizes etc they aren't going to break off I wouldn't think. Bike is 300lbs. Rack is about 40lbs max. Aluminum rack. I really would prefer not to leave the bike behind. Problem with just letting them droop is the bike rack clearance gets pretty slim. Maybe I can get someone to weld those l brackets on. That’s a good thought. I just have no experience with all of this hitch stuff and it’s very, very complicated.
HadEnough 06/14/21 04:07pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

https://i.postimg.cc/8kxzc1C8/87-CC8-A4-C-72-DA-46-BB-A534-C4-C8-D5-C79447.jpg This is something I just discovered. There is a sort of dual hitch receiver on the back of the truck. Both are 2”. https://i.postimg.cc/DyK3RmZz/B0-C8-AD3-C-66-DB-4082-AEED-5-ABD7-D4-F27-AC.jpg Another angle of the dual hitch in back. I was only looking at the single one. https://i.postimg.cc/3rGHL236/7188742-A-C610-4622-9666-B2915198970-F.jpg This is what I have in the front. A set of 2” receivers. They are loose. They pivot up and down. https://i.postimg.cc/Qt2Z8dJ0/12-DB20-D0-8-BDC-4-A6-C-890-C-1-F97-A9-F299-B7.jpg This is what the fronts look like underneath at the attachment points. They are individual units, not connected to each other. The right side of the picture is the front of the truck. The left side is the back of the truck. The black metal is the 2” hitch receiver. The rust metal is a support bolted to the frame. The receiver tube (black) pivots on the bolt in the lower right hand corner of this pic. That allows the receiver to pivot upwards and downwards at the bumper. If you look closely, you can see a gap above the bolt on the lower left side of the pic. That gap is a space between the receiver tube and frame. I have this receiver tube pivoted upward, toward the sky to illustrate the gap. Was think of jamming something into that gap, but it’ll probably fall out over bumps. https://i.postimg.cc/YSywP3Gc/0406-AD8-B-7749-472-D-A19-D-96149-FF57-F4-C.jpg This is the other side of one of the pivoting front receiver tubes. You can see the L bracket was supposed to keep it from pivoting but it doesn’t work. Given this is what I’m working with, should I go back to the front rack idea and do all that work knowing it might block the radiator, block the headlights and get covered in bugs? Or should I keep at the back hitch idea? And what about my dual rear hitch receivers? Anything I can do there?
HadEnough 06/14/21 03:48pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

First, “out west” it’s a lot farther between places which means if you ride by yourself and break down, you might be there a while on a bike. Something to consider if you haven’t. Anyway, I’d bite the bullet and adapt the front hitch to a motorcycle carrier. It will only be stronger with double receivers. You won’t enjoy working around the bike to get in/out of the camper assuming you don’t have a side entry. Also, the weight will be handled better on the front. Ok. Good points. I do have rear entry which is why I was going for 48” extension instead of 36. I already have a motorcycle carrier for the rear hitch. 2”. Works perfection no truck camper. I have to drill out holes in 2” tubing, cut 2” tubing, drill holes in my motorcycle carrier to do the front. I’ll post a bunch of pics now of what I have. Should have started with this.
HadEnough 06/14/21 03:37pm Truck Campers
RE: Carrying a Small Motorcycle?

Forget the motorcycle this trip and do it right when you have the time. Enjoy yourself. I mean this is what wi happen if this thread fails. And I’ll be devastated actually because riding the bike out west was a huge part of my plans. My girlfriend is in it for the RV travel but I have already done this trip and my big dream is to ride somewhere good. I’m in South Florida right now and the riding is non-existent due to all land private/gated as well as heat that will kill you. It’s an enduro bike. Plated for short road trips to off road fun. I’ll be heartbroken not to bring it. It’s also a nice mini “toad” and safety feature in case of deep desert breakdowns. I’d really really prefer to have it. But if it can’t be figured out, there is no other choice.
HadEnough 06/14/21 03:07pm Truck Campers
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