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RE: Stop gap suspension advice

Success! I installed Firestone airbags. So now I have helper springs and airbags. I inflated the airbags just enough that they did not disengage my helper springs. The result is terrific! Now the truck and camper handle wonderfully. The effect is so positive that I may cancel my order for a Hellwig Big Wig sway bar.
Haloo 11/02/20 06:52pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

Ah yes, many more suspension stories out there. I’ve looked all over various forums (fora) and discovered huge variations and disagreement. Some people love airbags, others hate them. Same with sway bars, stable loads, Timbrens, helper springs, etc... I have now heard or read polar opposite opinions on each of these and more. As a motorcyclist, if you can’t have/afford a completely dialed in suspension you at least want predictable suspension. You want the feedback to be giving you a consistent message. Right now this is what I’m aiming for with my truck and camper. I’ll get there. But it looks like a process of trial and error. So be it.
Haloo 11/01/20 03:46pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

What are you running for air pressure in the front & rear tires? Are the tires load Range E? F? G? A tire with a firm sidewall makes a big difference in side to side sway. As others have said, some of it is a learning experience, especially when entering and leaving parking lots. You generally want to do it as square as possible, if you are at an angle one of the front tires will go over any dip or bump first, starting the camper rocking, then when the rear tire go through it one at a time, it really gets to rock & rolling. Scott 60lbs front, 80lbs rear. Load range E, 20” tires. The primary issue is kind of a skittish feeling, not a roll so much as a sudden dipping to the outside of the curve — like it dips then catches. We drove the camper home 1200 miles on the stock springs. There was some sway and roll, but no big deal. After the new springs were added it feels different as I describe above. I think you answered your own question. NL are not very heavy and should be well within 1 ton stock suspension. OE shocks should be fine...can’t believe they are worn already. “Adjustable” shocks are useless in snow country. They won’t be adjustable for long. Of all the suspension mods I have done (many!) sway bar was the most useless. Made no difference IMO. Go back to your OE suspension and put on a few miles. Then re-evealuate. Yep. I’m going to remove the springs and give it another go. And yes, our camper will not exceed our payload. In fact, I have unbolted some weight from our camper, so we have even more room for gear if we want. I’m guessing we are at about 2600 lbs dry. Ford adds a sway bar with their Camper Package. Our truck did not come with a sway bar. Truck camper forums are stuffed full of threads on the virtues of sway bars. You are only the second person to tell me to not get a sway bar. The other guy told me to get air bags instead. So...since you mentioned it, what suspension mods have you done that were worthwhile?
Haloo 10/30/20 08:55pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

2019 Yep, I understand that some sway and roll come with the territory. It did for the 1200 mile drive home with the camper. After I added the helper springs there is the initial tippy thing that wasn’t there before. It sounds like you now have to much spring. (to stiff?) If it rode better before I'd remove the helper springs. I have a 9.6 on a 17' F250 and only added airbags to level out the headlights. (the 9.6 and 8.11 weigh about the same) As you and others have mentioned, some side to side sway goes with a top heavy setup. Some of the sway will be from the suspension and some will be from sidewall flex of your tires. Personally, the sway I was getting from the stock Ford OEM tires (rated at only 3450lbs) was to much to bear so I swapped the tires and rims for 19.5 Vision heavy hauler 81's and 265/70 Toyo M608Z's. I have no sway bar. Essentially I fixed my sway/handling issues with tires+rims. YMMV. - Mark0. I’ll start with tires: I’m running LT275/65 R20 tires. These tires are E rated and have a fairly low profile. Not sure I’m getting much flex, but haven’t ruled out upgrading my wheels and tires at some point. I don’t think the tires are contributing to my current issue. But I’m beginning to think I should take off the helper springs and go with air bags until I can upgrade the shocks. The ride is not too stiff with the helper springs. It’s just that the initial tippiness is disconcerting.
Haloo 10/30/20 06:53pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

You might check and see if Roadmaster has a sway bar for your Ford. roadmasterinc.com Call around and checking delivery dates might be good as well. eTrailer, Tweety's, etc. Roadmaster doesn’t make a sway bar for my truck. I called them and asked. I called all around the country trying to find a Hellwig Big Wig. No luck.
Haloo 10/30/20 06:39pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

Have you checked the availability of KYB Monomax shocks? I have them on my 2005 Chevy dually. I used it to carry a 4,000 pound camper and thought the shocks did really well. I called our local tire installer - Les Schwab Tires - and they mentioned the KYBs. I said I would consider them. They said they would check on availability and never called me back.
Haloo 10/30/20 06:36pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

You might check and see if Roadmaster has a sway bar for your Ford. roadmasterinc.com Call around and checking delivery dates might be good as well. eTrailer, Tweety's, etc. Roadmaster 1139-173, is the bar for your truck. I called Roadmaster. They don’t make a sway bar for a single rear wheel F350. Only dually. Bummer.
Haloo 10/30/20 06:32pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

You don’t say how old your F350 is. If it has some age to it, replace the bed and stabilizer bushings with polyurethane. At least, make sure the bed is tight. But, what you are feeling could be completely normal. Trucks with TCs don’t ride like cars. 2019 Yep, I understand that some sway and roll come with the territory. It did for the 1200 mile drive home with the camper. After I added the helper springs there is the initial tippy thing that wasn’t there before.
Haloo 10/30/20 02:42pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

Timbrens. Why?
Haloo 10/30/20 02:05pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

Not sure exactly how your spring set-up is, but I added a couple of user mods which along with added Helwing and Ranchos made for an almost ideal ride and height. I made perch extenders for the top factory helper springs from 2" TS to engage sooner. I installed timber felling wedges to allow the stock bottom overloads to engage sooner. All this made the springs do the intended work before needing to put a lot of weight in to engage the them. I do not have the camper anymore, but have used it recently to haul several loads of gravel for home construction projects... one load was just over 2 tons... about the same weight as my maxed out fully loaded camper setup. Cheap modifications. Very clever! My ride height is fine. So I think my springs are fine. Maybe I’ve added too much spring capacity? On the 1200 mile drive home from buying the camper we had sway and roll, but not the skittish behavior we’re getting now. The sway was even less on the ride home when we filled the water tank, though I could still tell we would benefit from a sway bar. We even drove for about 30 miles with 40mph side winds and I was only moderately nervous. I can deal with the feeling of some roll and sway. The unnerving thing is the quick dip to one side before the helper springs appear to come into play. Would airbags fill the gap, so to speak?
Haloo 10/30/20 12:39pm Truck Campers
RE: Stop gap suspension advice

What are you running for air pressure in the front & rear tires? Are the tires load Range E? F? G? A tire with a firm sidewall makes a big difference in side to side sway. As others have said, some of it is a learning experience, especially when entering and leaving parking lots. You generally want to do it as square as possible, if you are at an angle one of the front tires will go over any dip or bump first, starting the camper rocking, then when the rear tire go through it one at a time, it really gets to rock & rolling. Scott 60lbs front, 80lbs rear. Load range E, 20” tires. The primary issue is kind of a skittish feeling, not a roll so much as a sudden dipping to the outside of the curve — like it dips then catches. We drove the camper home 1200 miles on the stock springs. There was some sway and roll, but no big deal. After the new springs were added it feels different as I describe above.
Haloo 10/30/20 12:25pm Truck Campers
Stop gap suspension advice

We recently purchased a Northern Lite 8-11 so we could do more winter camping in the northwest. (Our small travel trailer wasn’t up to the task.) Our Ford 350 diesel pickup has a set of helper springs that we added to firm up the ride and get us ready for some off-roading. Even with the stock set up we were within our payload rating of 3500 lbs. The next step was to add a Hellwig Big Wig sway bar, and upgrade our shocks to Bilstein 5100s or Rancho 9000s.. However, the sway bar won’t be available for 2 1/2 months, Bilsteins are backordered for 6 weeks, and I haven’t been able to find Ranchos for the rear of our truck. The helper springs do their job, but the truck is a little tippy when rounding a corner and hitting a bump or undulation. It’s pretty disconcerting. The sway bar would help, but that will be a while. Would adding a set of air bags or Sumo Springs help firm things up so we can more comfortably drive and camp until the sway bar and shocks are available? I am very happy to have found this forum! ...Hal
Haloo 10/30/20 10:54am Truck Campers
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