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RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

Well the misinformation never ends. I agree that ethanol is hydroscopic but in order for it to absorb any significant water it would have to be exposed to the outside atmosphere in order to absorb it. 10% ethanol gas is stored in under found tanks with limited exposure to moisture. Also if it were possible for the ethanol to absorb enough water to reduce the mpg range of the fuel by 30%, since the fuel only contained 10% ethanol to begin with, mathematically the only energy remaining to propel the vehicle is coming from the gas and no energy coming from the ethanol content. And finally if the water laden fuel actually is reducing the mileage by 30%, it will affect all vehicles using it equally not just fuel hungry motorhomes. Your answer is predicated on ‘buying the party line’, not facts. Sure IF there’s only 10 ethanol the amount of water is limited, but if the fuel has been spiked, the water content goes up too. The water is a very real thing, some studies have shown that up to 50% of underground storage tanks leak. The below regional study found 20% of stations had water-laden tanks. The problem is two-fold, higher ethanol rates means more absorption and leaking tanks mean an endless supply of water. Report on leaking gas station underground tanks. Very few people even track their mileage let alone test it on both types of fuel, with and without ethanol.
JaxDad 05/26/21 05:35am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Need a new TV antenna

I too opted to replace a broken unit with a Jack, in real world parked next to someone with a Sensar and haven’t ever found much of a difference. The one big difference I like is being able to have a fully functional (albeit needs rearming) TV antenna while going down the road.
JaxDad 05/25/21 05:31am General RVing Issues
RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

JaxDad, In most states 10% ethanol is also added to premium gas. Secondly, for vehicles calling for the use of 87 octane regular gas, using premium fuel absolutely will not increase your mileage. Premium fuel also is not any ‘cleaner’ than regular fuel that some believe. The only difference in the two fuels is the higher octane (anti-knock) rating and the approximately $0.60/gallon extra cost that you are just wasting using premium. I beg to differ sir, I have physically checked my mileage MANY times running both ethanol enriched and ethanol free gasoline. My mileage increases about 23% by running ethanol-free fuel. So here’s how that plays out in my case, round-trip to south Florida is about 3,000 miles. My rig gets 7.32 mpg on regular gasoline with ethanol in it. So that trip is 410 gallons. If it has 10% ethanol then it’s 41 gallons of ethanol and 369 gallons of gasoline. On ethanol-free premium my rig gets 9.0 mpg. That same trip then uses 334 gallons of only gasoline. If your $0.60 / gallon is close then that trip costs an ‘extra’ $200. Except I bought 76 less gallons of gas. If we use a $3 / gallon average price that is $228. So if I ‘waste’ $200 on premium but spend $228 LESS in fuel, it looks to me like I’m up $28....... and that’s before we get into the 35 gallons less gasoline and 41 gallons of ethanol I DIDN’T burn on top of the 334 gallons of ethanol free gas. The only thing the current ethanol-enriched gasoline is doing is wasting food, making corn industry folks richer and making social media folks feel good. What methodology do you use to locate premium gas with no methanol added ... on a long trip in any place at any time? And - I mean finding that without using all kinds of various cellphone apps such that you have to specially plan your route and/or travel timing around specific gas stations where it's sold? As far as I know, one can't just pull into any gas station and find it's premium doesn't have ethanol added to it - at least in the Western U.S.. This website lists a bunch of stations all over North America that sell ethanol free gasoline. Pure Gas Website
JaxDad 05/24/21 06:28pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

So you should see only a 3.3% mileage increase using ethanol free fuel - not 23%. If you are seeing a 23% increase you are somehow creating extra energy and you should patent your process. All of that can be explained in one word, “adulteration”. Energy content is calculated based on lab calculations, sort of like the amount of horsepower a vehicle is stated to produce, based on perfect conditions in a test cell. Ethanol is a gift from heaven for gas station owners. Ever wonder why a huge percentage of gas station owners come from just one region of the world? Or why they happily pay seemingly ridiculous prices to buy those stations? Ethanol. Anyone can buy it, no questions asked. When’s it’s blended into gas it sells for the same price as gasoline which is about $0.50 more than ethanol. Unfortunately it’s very hygroscopic, it likes water so much it will absorb it right out of the air. Water has a very low energy content. The bottom line is that fuel, spiked with water-laden ethanol, can easily reduce mileage by 30% in fuel-hungry vehicles like motorhomes.
JaxDad 05/24/21 06:26pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

JaxDad, In most states 10% ethanol is also added to premium gas. Secondly, for vehicles calling for the use of 87 octane regular gas, using premium fuel absolutely will not increase your mileage. Premium fuel also is not any ‘cleaner’ than regular fuel that some believe. The only difference in the two fuels is the higher octane (anti-knock) rating and the approximately $0.60/gallon extra cost that you are just wasting using premium. I beg to differ sir, I have physically checked my mileage MANY times running both ethanol enriched and ethanol free gasoline. My mileage increases about 23% by running ethanol-free fuel. So here’s how that plays out in my case, round-trip to south Florida is about 3,000 miles. My rig gets 7.32 mpg on regular gasoline with ethanol in it. So that trip is 410 gallons. If it has 10% ethanol then it’s 41 gallons of ethanol and 369 gallons of gasoline. On ethanol-free premium my rig gets 9.0 mpg. That same trip then uses 334 gallons of only gasoline. If your $0.60 / gallon is close then that trip costs an ‘extra’ $200. Except I bought 76 less gallons of gas. If we use a $3 / gallon average price that is $228. So if I ‘waste’ $200 on premium but spend $228 LESS in fuel, it looks to me like I’m up $28....... and that’s before we get into the 35 gallons less gasoline and 41 gallons of ethanol I DIDN’T burn on top of the 334 gallons of ethanol free gas. The only thing the current ethanol-enriched gasoline is doing is wasting food, making corn industry folks richer and making social media folks feel good.
JaxDad 05/23/21 03:31pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Are cattle farmers better protected from COVID-19? Available to subscribers only (unfortunately) Don, NOT the same article, but the same idea. Clicky, clicky.
JaxDad 05/21/21 06:42pm Around the Campfire
RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

Ron ... I'm wondering if the same aging gasoline chemistry issue that causes Onan carbs to gunk up can also cause Onan fuel pumps and filters to gunk up? People giggle when I fill up with premium gas, “You idiot, it only needs regular, you’re throwing away money!”. Maybe, but premium is ethanol free and neither of my Onan’s have given me a lick of problems in 10 (for one) and 15 (for the other) years despite not being started sometimes for a year at a time. No ethanol, no problems. Oh, BTW, it doesn’t cost more, my increased mileage more than covers the per gallon difference.
JaxDad 05/21/21 06:29pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

The article indicates that most were vaccinated with the Sinopharm vaccine. Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough, the fact that they were jabbed with the Sinopharm vaccine and then got sick WAS my point. Sure the article was about a tiny island nation, but what about the 1.4 billion people in China and who knows how many more around the world that are also going to get that vaccine? Will those people continue to be a threat of reinfection to the rest of the world?
JaxDad 05/19/21 05:31am Around the Campfire
RE: New camper towing

It’s a pop-up, I don’t see filling the basement storage or FW tanks as being a deal-breaker. Put all the camping gear in the Traverse and drive carefully until you can get a frame hitch installed.
JaxDad 05/17/21 05:21pm Beginning RVing
RE: Gas Vs Diesel Yah-Yah-Yah!

The same can be said with tow vehicles, the new gas engines do a great job, and have really closed the gap with diesels. and for about $10k less. Great job??? 475 torque compared to 1050... you’re dreaming on closing the gap and it’s more the 10 speed tranny than the gas engine. Things like HP or torque are pretty much meaningless unless you look at the ‘big picture’. I like sporty roadsters, my favourite is a 6 litre, 621 hp twin turbo V12 Benz, it does 0 to 60 in a little under 4 seconds and the 1/4 mile in a little under 12 seconds. My buddy likes motorcycles, his favourite bike is 1 litre BMW, it also does 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times about the same as my car does. My car weighs about 4,300 pounds, his bike weighs about 700 pounds. Power to weight ratio, that is a quantitative measurement that means something. A 36,000 pound DP versus an 18,000 pound gasser is pretty much the same apples to oranges silliness.
JaxDad 05/17/21 05:12pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Canadian Camping outlook or No Alaska this year

A news item last week was stating that there’s a new outbreak in the most highly (per capita) vaccinated nation in the world. Just more than 37% of those cases are people that are fully (2 shots plus time for it to do it’s thing) vaccinated. Common-sense restrictions are not unnecessary.
JaxDad 05/17/21 05:57am RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Purely as food for thought, this recent article about a recent unexplained, or expected, rise in infections in a highly vaccinated island nation. The surprising part is that 37% of the new cases are people are fully vaccinated. Clicky, clicky.....
JaxDad 05/16/21 06:12am Around the Campfire
RE: Help! Onan 4K generator refuses to start and stay on

Onan 4K are notorious for simple issues causing problems. The very first check you need to do is start it with the remote but do NOT let go of the “start” button when it starts. If it continues to run, hold the button for 30 seconds then let go. If it stalls right away again, then get a known good battery or another vehicle and put booster cables on the house battery and repeat the same test again. If it continues to run with the booster cables the voltage in the house battery is too low. Charge or replace it. If it doesn’t continue to run, it’s a fuel issue.
JaxDad 05/15/21 03:56pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Lifting my class C

As with almost anything else in life, technique counts more than anything else in life. Recall you are driving a 30 foot brick, not a car, then, as you pull in stay close to the curb and turn far less sharply than normal and use up every inch of width of the entranceway into the station. Basically what you are doing is exaggerating the corner and by doing so you you gradually work your way up the ramp and limit the difference too.
JaxDad 05/11/21 04:50pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: DOA Hard Drive

I’ve dodged the bullet so far, but........ it’s going to happen, soon. The big issue, and one of if not my biggest P!&% off, is the external drive DVR on my satellite TV service. Some clever bunch of corporate bean-counters decided that if folks could access the content they’d have a data sharing problem. Their solution? When you plug a new drive in to the sat. box it formats it in Linux and installs an auto-run program that looks at the S/N of the box, if it doesn’t match it won’t play. It also uses some weird, even for Linux, encryption that means you can’t even duplicate the drive. So with MANY hours of content we can’t protect it, if the drive dies, it’s gone. It’s already noisy...... tick, tick, tick.
JaxDad 05/11/21 05:37am Technology Corner
RE: Would you switch from Class A to Travel Trailer

Traveling long distance in a Class A is much nicer than traveling long distance in a TV/TT. Your DW can get up, stretch her legs, go to the restroom, grab a snack/drink...even lay down and catch a few Z's. None of that can be done in a TV while driving down the road. I'm going to disagree with part of that, it depends on what TV you have. A friend has a converted Volvo tractor that he pulls a big 5'er with. I've been on a few trips with him in, it's dream to drive, far nicer IMHO than my Class A in that it is far more 'surefooted' on the highway. There is no hint of the 'tail wagging the dog' from crosswinds or the bow wave of other vehicles. While the Volvo may very well be "a dream" to drive, it still doesn't allow everything else in the section of my comment that you quoted; DW can't get up, stretch her legs, go to the restroom, grab a snack/drink...even lay down and catch a few Z's. It's also a very rare towing combination. I know it’s commonly done, but still, neither the Volvo NOR the law allow any of those things either.
JaxDad 04/30/21 05:27am Class A Motorhomes
RE: RV travel across Canada during these lockdown times

https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/prs/orders/index.html and scroll down. I am all for restrictions, but there are some rules in that PDF that are beyond ridiculous. Such as: You are prohibited to socialize with friends in your backyard. But you can all meet and socialize down at the tavern. It makes total sense, no different than air travel versus land crossings. The tavern owners & staff are trained and have a LOT to lose if they allow violations or stupidity, drunks in the backyard? ......... Not so much. Sorry, but I disagree. That does not make sense either, that you can fly to a destination, but not allowed to drive across the border to that destination. If that country does not want foreigners in their country why allow air travel. When you fly they know your exposure is limited to a few people, and only at the destination. When you drive you could be going anywhere and doing anything. At the airport there’s lots of time and space to have a good look at people and test them, at a border crossing, forget it. Could you imagine the mess telling people they needed to be at a land crossing 2 hours before crossing? Where would they put all the people & their vehicles. The 3 day quarantine is the same, there’s dozens of hotels around major airports, but not at land crossings thus no where for them to stay while test results come back.
JaxDad 04/29/21 05:41am RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: RV travel across Canada during these lockdown times

https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/prs/orders/index.html and scroll down. I am all for restrictions, but there are some rules in that PDF that are beyond ridiculous. Such as: You are prohibited to socialize with friends in your backyard. But you can all meet and socialize down at the tavern. It makes total sense, no different than air travel versus land crossings. The tavern owners & staff are trained and have a LOT to lose if they allow violations or stupidity, drunks in the backyard? ......... Not so much.
JaxDad 04/28/21 03:59pm RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: New Ford Pickup weighs payload and tongue weight

Nothing new, the trucking industry has had it for many years. We adapted the system to work on out F350 & F550 (and bigger) trucks years ago. The driver gets real time readings on their smartphone. They can be standing next to the truck and watch front & rear axle weights as the truck is being loaded.
JaxDad 04/28/21 03:53pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Bear Spray

Many, many years ago I did a survival course designed to help pilots survive a crash. I still recall the instructor’s bit about bears; They run at 35 mph, that’s (35 times 5,280) 184,800 feet an hour, which is 3,080 feet per minute, which is a little over FIFTY ONE FEET PER SECOND. Bear spray??? Bwaahaahaahaaaaaa. Yeah, right.
JaxDad 04/28/21 03:48pm General RVing Issues
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