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RE: 3/4 or 1 ton SUV ?
GM has been making 1 ton Suburbans for several years. However, the tow rating was 4k, but there was over 4k in payload. The are sold fleet, and what was hauling all those key individuals in DC in January.
And how many of those suburbans can you go buy today at the chevy dealer? I'm pretty sure the OP's post/query wasn't about something that is unobtanium, just for the sake of someone saying, "told you so."
Grit - I know you are always correct. This was to highlight that GM had the engineering complete on a 1 ton Burb. If it was cost effective, helped the contribution margin, and was worthy of building for the retail public, they would. The sticker price was in the $80k+. At the end of the day, my $22k off rental Express 2wd can tow the same 9500lb travel trailer.
And do I miss my 2500 Yukon XL with the 8.1? Absolutely not. The Express does the same job, and almost 40% more efficient.
If the same job involves 4 wheel drive your economical van is not up to the task. While a 3/4 ton van and a 3/4 SUV have lots of overlap in their abilities. The need for 4x4 separates the 2 vehicles.
In the end I do agree there is only a small niche market for 3/4 ton SUV's that makes it hard to build them and make a profit.
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Lantley
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03/02/21 05:10am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: 3/4 or 1 ton SUV ?
Because it would be addressing a much smaller crowd as trailers don't consume as much payload compared to 5th wheels....tounge weight vs pin weight.
Full size pickup trucks have almost the same interior space as bigger SUVs but can be had with much more capability.
Having the need for a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup truck trumps not having the need for a bed.
If you prefer large SUVs, simply stay within it's capabilities.
This is all fine and well until you start considering the seating issues. As a family of 5 with a dog, we limped along with our 2006 HD Suburban (with the 8.1) as long as we could. Pick-ups just don't lend themselves well to travel for families of more than 4. When we finally ditched our Suburban just over a year ago, we went with a pick-up, but are now much more limited in what we can do. The dog has to be left behind if we leave the state, travel days need to be shortened because we have 3 kids (12-16) sharing the back seat, etc.
I'm sure that others are correct that the economics just didn't make sense to continue to make them for such a small market, but those of us in that small market miss them terribly!
I'm with you my prior combo was a 7.3 Excursion and 36' 10K loaded TT.
It was a great combo. While I enjoy my current 5'er I still miss the passenger space f the X. Family of 4 and a Doberman barely fit in a crew cab pick. We had room to spare in the X.
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Lantley
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03/01/21 04:20pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: How dependable are newer trucks with higher mileage?
I understand how a truck can be more or less great but have an annoying issue
I have a 2019 Duramax. The low coolant indicator light come on however the truck is not low on coolant. The dealer has had it 3 times and no fix. I can dismiss the warning with the push of a button however it still annoying.
Now do I go into the dealer and escalate the issue and demand a fix or due I quietly deal with this annoying issue.
For the record my dealer and GM are aware of the problem it is not an isolated issue to just my truck.
On a much smaller scale because I have just one issue I understand where "Devo the Dog" is coming from. If there are TSB on all the items as he states Ram/Dodge are really letting him down.
By the way why would a large company like Dodge change the name/branding unless they are seeking a fresh start or want to avoid there past association with the Dodge brand? Can you imagine Ford Rebranding F-series or Chevy rebranding Silverado?
You're ignoring the light when it comes on, so, unplug the sensor and call it fixed.
Your more or less right. My issue is I haven't made enough fuss about it. I should not have unplug anything on a new truck. If I wanted a project I could have kept my old truck.
I've been nice the entire time. But this is one of those times where the squeaky wheel get the grease. I need to demand a proper fix which requires a new coolant container. I imagine the dealer knows that as well and have been reluctant to complete the repair as long as I'm not complaining loudly.
I guess its time to squeak loudly....:)
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Lantley
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03/01/21 04:07pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Equilizer vs. Blue ox SwayPro?
All- Thanks for all your input. By sway, I mean, when I semi passes me or cross wind, I'm getting sucked into the semi or pushed around a little. It usually resolves quickly, but having to continually worry about semi's sucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm always checking my mirrors anyway but not knowing how much I'll be sucked into a semi sucks.
For further clarity, I have leveled the front of the truck and from friends conversations, it sounds like that's also not helping. Having the truck lowered this week and hope that it helps.
If it's just a quick nudge and then immediately settles down once past, that's normal and nothing to worry about.
Just hold steady. Try not to crowd the left lane. The closer you are, the more you will feel the bow wave. If you do feel the need to do something, gently ease to the right but no jerky movements.
This is where the premium hitches separate themselves from the others.
There is no holding steady, or moving over, no easing over. You no longer have to prepare for or anticipate the passing 18 wheelers in anyway.
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Lantley
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03/01/21 03:55pm |
Towing
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RE: Equilizer vs. Blue ox SwayPro?
I felt no sway with my Hensley I feel no sway with my fiver. sway is not merely feeling the wind.
Sway is when the trailer reacts differently than the tow vehicle. The motion or different reaction of the trailer impacts the tow vehicle.
With a Hensley the trailer and TV move as one unit there is no wiggle or sway involved.
When the wind blows or a truck passes there is no wiggle or impact felt by the driver. Which is why Hensley makes there no sway claim.
This is why I asked the OP to explain what was meant by "sway".
I don't care what kind of fancy hitch you add, you will feel a good cross wind or if a semi blows by you 20-30mph faster. Heck the pickup by itself (no trailer, you feel it)
If the trailer is flopping around like a happy dog for 5-10 sec that is sway and a problem...but slapping lipstick on a pig is not a good solution. Figure out what's wrong with the setup and fix it.
I can attest that you do not feel the push of semi's while towing with a Hensley. The hitch is expensive but it works. There is no wiggle or force felt in the driver's seat.
This is an old debate but the premium hitches work as advertised.
There money back guarantee is also for real. While I no longer tow with a Hensley . I was a satisfied customers for the years I towed a 10K loaded TT with a 7.3 PSD Excursion.
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Lantley
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02/28/21 08:30am |
Towing
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RE: How dependable are newer trucks with higher mileage?
I understand how a truck can be more or less great but have an annoying issue
I have a 2019 Duramax. The low coolant indicator light come on however the truck is not low on coolant. The dealer has had it 3 times and no fix. I can dismiss the warning with the push of a button however it still annoying.
Now do I go into the dealer and escalate the issue and demand a fix or due I quietly deal with this annoying issue.
For the record my dealer and GM are aware of the problem it is not an isolated issue to just my truck.
On a much smaller scale because I have just one issue I understand where "Devo the Dog" is coming from. If there are TSB on all the items as he states Ram/Dodge are really letting him down.
By the way why would a large company like Dodge change the name/branding unless they are seeking a fresh start or want to avoid there past association with the Dodge brand? Can you imagine Ford Rebranding F-series or Chevy rebranding Silverado?
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Lantley
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02/28/21 08:23am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: CC&R dated 1973 says no RVs, trailers, boats can be stored
My question is this. Since there is no evidence of anyone doing anything with this in over 50 years and there is no HOA, who is tasked with enforcing it as it appears the city (county)have no jurisdiction or desire?
I think it has been made clear that the enforcement would be if a property owner would file a law suit against somebody breaking the rules.
bumpy
I agree with bumpy someone could sue using the covenant as their reason for wanting the RV removed.
While this may not be likely, there is always a chance you have a anti RV neighbor lurking across the street.
If the anti RV neighbor decided to pursue the issue via a suit. The OP would be forced to defend himself or remove the RV.
A suit would be a PIA for the OP vs. buying a house with NO RV restrictions expired, unenforced or otherwise.
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Lantley
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02/27/21 10:48am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035
I wonder how earthmovers, or other very large construction machines will be adapted to work on battery, how many hours will the operate and just as important how long will it take to recharge them, especially out in the middle of Nebraska. EVs are the future for personal transportation, but the need for ICE’s is here for a long time.
Electric construction equipment is being developed as we speak
Electric Construction equipment
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/electric-caterpillar-excavator-e1548740266295.jpg?w=2000&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1 width=480
Heavy mining excavators have had electric powered models for a few years now. Big difference - they are corded, with 3 phase primary voltage feed.
I think this Cat will fill a niche market, where there's a load of idling (trenching, etc.). In a production environment of loading dump trucks, the engine runs nearly 100% duty cycle.
At 122 kW and 300 kWh, we're talking maybe 3 hours before recharging.
By no means am I claiming they have it all figured out as we speak.
On the other hand a lot of thinking and development can happen in 14 years.
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Lantley
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02/26/21 08:44pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Equilizer vs. Blue ox SwayPro?
I felt no sway with my Hensley I feel no sway with my fiver. sway is not merely feeling the wind.
Sway is when the trailer reacts differently than the tow vehicle. The motion or different reaction of the trailer impacts the tow vehicle.
With a Hensley the trailer and TV move as one unit there is no wiggle or sway involved.
When the wind blows or a truck passes there is no wiggle or impact felt by the driver. Which is why Hensley makes there no sway claim.
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Lantley
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02/26/21 11:33am |
Towing
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RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035
Wow, this thread's "deja vu all over again".
I think it will be a reoccurring theme as more people begin to recognize EV's are for real.
Elon Musk/Tesla have been real game changers, so much so that Ford, GM, and VW realize they need to evolve sooner than later.
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Lantley
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02/26/21 11:09am |
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RE: Equilizer vs. Blue ox SwayPro?
If you want no sway you will need to step up to a Propride or Hensley
Both are expensive but they work. No sway is attainable with those premium hitches.
Friction based hitches really don't compare if you are truly seeking no sway.
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Lantley
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02/25/21 06:44pm |
Towing
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RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035
I wonder how earthmovers, or other very large construction machines will be adapted to work on battery, how many hours will the operate and just as important how long will it take to recharge them, especially out in the middle of Nebraska. EVs are the future for personal transportation, but the need for ICE’s is here for a long time.
Electric construction equipment is being developed as we speak
Electric Construction equipment
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/electric-caterpillar-excavator-e1548740266295.jpg?w=2000&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1 width=480
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Lantley
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02/25/21 03:44pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035
You guys are focusing on the wrong thing. This is not about AOC or the new green deal. Tesla has shown that EV's are for real and that the ICE is obsolete.
EV's have left the drawing board and are in full production as we speak.
The idea that we can't produce enough electric is silly.
When the model T was originally made did we say this would never work because there were no gas stations?
We have made it from the stage coach to jumbo jets the infrastructure will come.
Going from gas stations to charging stations is not an impossible task.
If you want to believe EV's are for real. Drive a Tesla.
Driving a Tesla for the first time is a game changing experience.
Once you drive a Tesla you will understand where all this is going and why the ICE is obsolete.
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Lantley
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02/25/21 04:52am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: New Ford 150s Save the Day in Texas
How big are the generators in those? Different sizes?
There are a few different outputs available but roughly equivalent to the portable generators you see used by RVers.
The up charge alone is more than a quality stand alone inverter generator.
Not true - the 2Kw ProPower Onboard is a $995 option. That's right in line with similar size generators. And then you're not hauling around a separate generator and gas can, nor are you filling the tank every 8 hours. To me this will be a no-brainer option to add. I just wish we hadn't just bought a 2020.
The 7.2kw I 'believe' you can order separately (I think it's a $2000Kish option?), but it's more geared to be part of the hybrid model.
The convenience of having the genset built into the truck must be weighed against having the genset built into the truck. If the truck leaves the electricity leaves.....There are times when separating the electric from the truck will be desirable.
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Lantley
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02/23/21 08:33pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: CC&R dated 1973 says no RVs, trailers, boats can be stored
Why buy into a fight? Are there no houses without any strings attached?
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Lantley
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02/22/21 10:00am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Why is 5th wheel standard vs Gooseneck?
I have a trailer Saver now (TS3). If I were to make a change I would consider the Goose Box as it has some real design advantages. The attachment point to the truck is low reducing the hitch angle which reduces the amount of chucking forces relative to bouncing forces created by the trailer. Consider the Goose Box image; the forward high hinge point relative to the ball will allow the hitch to retract some when compressed thus mitigating some chucking forces. Solid engineering was used when designing the box.
Any type of soft joint hitch/pin box has to be easier on the trailer frame than a solid hitch and solid pin box.
Yes But the long shaft of the adapter will always create more leverage on the pin box. I don't think I can consider the Goose box a foolproof advantage for 5th wheel towing unless the pin box attachment to the fiver is also altered and reinforced in someway.
A long pipe on a pipe wrench will always create more force/leverage on that lug nut and allow you to turn the nut vs. a wrench with no extension.
Air cushioning and absorption are secondary factors.
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Lantley
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02/21/21 11:31am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Why is 5th wheel standard vs Gooseneck?
I think some sort of shock supression is essential for either Gooseneck or 5th wheel. The failure on the frame is happening because of the intense shock caused by nearly 3000 lbs hitting repeatedly. Put the airbag in the equation and those intense shocks are reduced substantially. I suspect the Goosebox is approved specifically because of this vibration dampening.
I agree air some form of air suppression is good however 90% of 5'ers do not have any air suppression. With that in mind your basic 5th wheel hitch provides a larger platform/contact area to absorb and spread the forces of impact to the pin box vs. a typical gooseneck hitch.
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Lantley
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02/19/21 08:46pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Inverter Install?
Since your just testing. Plug your shore power cord/extension cord into a 110 outlet instead of your inverter. Use the exact same adapter or cord configuration you ere using with the inverter.
Since you know the outlet is putting out 110 even if it's only 15 amps, you should be able to tell if you have a breaker setting issue or an inverter setting issue
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Lantley
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02/19/21 08:37pm |
Tech Issues
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RE: GD Momentum 395ms with Ram Megacab
Lantley, time to turn off the internet for a bit, it’s getting your blood pressure up. OP is asking about a brand new dually and you go off on some rant about not buying enough truck for the job....
Give it a rest, bud.
Maybe some cannot comprehend more that one sentence at a time.
I understand the OP has a Dually. However he has a short bed dually and does not want to use a slider. What good is the dually capacity if the trailer hits the cab.
The OP ask about the puck factor in tight turns? Without a slider there will be a pucker factor.
Here's the rant:
Once again instead of getting the right truck with all the right equipment we are debating a questionable combo without all of the right equipment.
You can pucker and cross your fingers or you can get the right equipment.
As mentioned in a prior post, cab contact continues, none of those people that suffered through the cab damaged intended for the contact to happen. They all thought they were being careful enough. They all thought they did not need a slider.
The truth is they were all careful enough until they were not careful enough.
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Lantley
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02/17/21 06:40pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: GD Momentum 395ms with Ram Megacab
I wasn't referencing anyone in general. These threads appear all the time.
It's not that complicated to get the right truck for the application.
We often make this a subjective topic but the towing parameters speak for them selves.
If your trailer weighs Y. Your truck needs to be able to carry Y. Except too often someone wants to use a truck that can only carry up to X, not quite Y.
They will list a host of reasons why X can be made equivalent to Y or why you really don't need to use a Y capable truck cause X is just as good.
This towing at the edge ideology can be found across all kinds of trucks 1/2 tons, 3/4 tons, 1 tons and duallys. Short beds vs. long beds are also part of edge towing.
Choosing a towing combo is a straight forward process if you use a calculator or in the case of a back window a tape measure, however often times we use everything except a calculator or a tape measure.
We make subjective choices based on questionable logic that often leads to getting it right the 2nd time or learning the hard way.
When I went from a TT to a fiver. I knew I wanted a big fiver so I bought a dually right off the bat.
It wasn't that I was in love with a dually, but the math told me if I want to avoid the upgrade game than a dually would allow me to shop for any trailer I wanted without being on the EDGE of my limits.
Why are you even bringing weight or size of truck into the conversation? Megecab short bed has near identical capacity of a crew cab long bed (which I've owned an 04, 13 and 14) which exceeds the requirements of the 395m. Again - weight was not the topic of discussion so leave it out please.
You missed the point. Capacity is one thing hitting the cab is another.
But they are both can lead to the the same issue. You can get a truck that requires puckering up when things get tight or you can get a truck that delivers carefree towing at all times.. no puckering required.
You ask will I need to pucker up on tight turns?
Without a slider that depends on your definition of tight.
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Lantley
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02/17/21 06:06pm |
Tow Vehicles
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