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RE: Dry vs Gross weight

I would disagree with that. Both trailers are more then likely to have the same axles under them. The second trailer just assumes you have more tongue weight then the first trailer, hence giving you a higher GVWR. Now if they have different axles under them, then you may have a point. But they only make axles in a few ratings, the difference in axle ratings are in thousands of pounds, not hundreds. Axles, brakes, tires - they all impact ccc. You'd have to analyze the components of each trailer to know where the differences are coming from, but to say that the difference in hitch weight is not accurate. For just one of what I know would be many examples if explored... Keystone Passport 2210RBWE GT: -Length: 26'3" -Dry: 4,796 -Dry Hitch: 560 -CCC: 2,704 Keystone Bullet 221RBSWE -Length: 26'8" -Dry: 4,690 -Dry Hitch: 490 -CCC: 1,720 Two nearly identical trailers, from the same manufacturer, and the GVWR for the first is 7,500 while the GVWR for the latter is 6,410. I assure you that they are not expecting that 1,000 pound difference to be because of hitch weight. Add in the single axle trailers that roll off the lot with barely enough ccc to fill their tanks, much less carry any gear, and GVWR is clearly not a tell-all rating. GVWR is one of many considerations, but it truly should not be used as a catch all.
Mickeyfan0805 08/06/20 10:03am Travel Trailers
RE: Dry vs Gross weight

I agree completely. The only difference is the one with the higher GVWR will have better brakes tires and suspension. And even that sometimes can be questionable. Absolutely - which simply underlines the point. My greatest fear of the 'Go by GVWR' mantra is that someone new to trailering would go out and buy a 5,000 pound trailer with a 6,000 GVWR over a 5,000 pound trailer with a 7,500 pound GVWR based purely on the advice that they should stay under 7,000 pounds GVWR. Both would be equally safe in regard to weight, but the first will quite possibly end up dangerously overloaded on the trailer side while the second will travel with capacity to spare.
Mickeyfan0805 08/06/20 08:50am Travel Trailers
RE: Dry vs Gross weight

IMO it is very fair to consider the CCC of a trailer in the equation - I've always pushed back against the generalized GVWR advice for that very reason. With the wide variance of ccc limits on these trailers, you have to be aware of it. A 4k trailer with a GVWR of 6k will be no different than a 4k trailer with a GVWR of 7k. Both start at the same weight and will be loaded the same - to consider one as ok and the other as too much is silly. Furthermore, you could find a 5k trailer with only 1k in ccc, which would also be 'ok' by the GVWR rule, and I wouldn't touch a trailer like that with a 10 foot pole! That said, there are two things I'd add to your consideration... First, the one piece I see missing from your calculations is the hitch weight. Your WDH is going to weigh another 100 pounds. If you are down to 720 after your family and gear, your real tongue weight limit is close to 620. Second, counting on 12% is a bit risky IMHO. While 12% is certainly within the range of acceptable weights, every trailer is a bit different. If your loaded trailer comes in more naturally at 14% when loaded, how are you going to reduce the ratio? Shorter trailers have less opportunity to shift the load behind the axles to accomplish this, so you could find yourself overloaded with a heavier tongue and no way to adjust it.
Mickeyfan0805 08/05/20 01:09pm Travel Trailers
RE: Leaving dog at campsite

If this thread has done one thing for me, it has shown me the absolute arrogance and lack of concern for some people's dogs. While i have never reported anyone in a CG, that is going to change when i see dogs not being properly cared for. Thank you all for you input. The hypocrisy of naming the arrogance of another in such a self-righteously arrogant post is mind-numbing to me. I am convinced that most every campground that has a 'no dogs left behind' rule has it so that they have a basis on which to deal with a camper whose dog is problematic in some way. A dog resting comfortably and quietly in an RV is no one's business, and that campground doesn't want to deal with your pointless complaints. If you see active abuse of an animal in any circumstance - report it. If a dog is left behind, contrary to campground rules, and it is being particularly bothersome - report it. Otherwise, MYOB and stop walking around as though you know what is best for everyone and everything else in the world.
Mickeyfan0805 08/04/20 11:22am Beginning RVing
RE: Why remove dinette booth and replace with table and chairs

I've actually been muddling around with this one myself. We despise our U-shaped dinette. The cushions don't stay on the bench well, now that the kids are older it really only seats 3 instead of our 5, etc. The open space and flexibility of our table and chairs would be a real advantage. For us, however, it's not only interior but exterior storage that would be lost. Our hoses, power cables and levelers are all stored under that bench. I simply can't afford to lose that space, so we're staying with what we've got. That said, in a larger 5th wheel with more available storage, I'd opt for the table and chairs over the bench in a heartbeat!
Mickeyfan0805 08/04/20 08:11am Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Florida closed to travel?

Was wondering what the possibility of Florida closing this winter to out-of-state residents this winter No one knows what will happen. That said, most state mandates I've seen, so far, have been mandatory quarantines, not outright bans. Thus, as a snowbird, you could travel down, quarantine for 14 days, and then go about your business.
Mickeyfan0805 08/03/20 06:53pm Snowbirds
RE: travel trailer towing difficulty

People all have their different opinions on hitches, but I always recommend that one goes with one of the more proven manufacturers - especially if you are going to tow for any distance. We have an EQ that we've been using for 10 years and have been very happy with it. As for towing, weight clearly should not be a problem. I don't think you'll see a huge change going from 19 to 26. With the exception of needing to be a bit more selective in gas stations at times (something you are likely already accustomed to with a Diesel), just watch your increased tailswing and cornerin-angle and you'll be fine. From a handling perspective, you won't even notice.
Mickeyfan0805 08/03/20 01:52pm Travel Trailers
RE: First time tower - multiple questions

There's a calculation which says 20' is the limit for a 120" wheelbase. This is the second thread where this conversation is emerging right now. This formula is cited all the time, but I've never seen any manufacturer of any trailer or vehicle publish any wheelbase ratios. Wheelbase most certainly makes a difference, but I would not use a random ratio that has become popular on the internet as a basis for my purchasing decisions.
Mickeyfan0805 08/01/20 08:11pm Travel Trailers
RE: How much can we tow with SUV?

In response to Mickey’s comment, there is a significant decrease in “18 wheeler passing me” sway in my new Silverado than in the Tahoes. They weigh about the same so it’s gotta be wheelbase. 116 vs. 147. No question that wheelbase can make a difference - my sole point is that the oft-cited formula has no basis from a reputable manufacturer. Wheelbase is one of many factors that influence the capabilities of a vehicle.
Mickeyfan0805 08/01/20 08:04pm Towing
RE: How much can we tow with SUV?

Meaning no offense to the poster, the wheelbase formula mentioned above has been bantered about on these boards for years, and I've never seen any formal basis for it. From my best research, it seems to date back to an opinion on a towing blog awhile back, but I've never seen any trailer or vehicle manufacturer post any such formula regarding wheelbase. So, do with that formula as you will. That said, in addition to much of the input above, I'd suggest you need to look forward a bit. You mention 'growing every year' with the kids. That is sure to be true, and it will happen in a hurry. I honestly think your 500 estimate is likely WAY under. Unless you have a remarkably petite family, 6 bodies plus a dog will rarely only weight 500 pounds. And, if it does, you are talking about very young children who have car seats, diaper bags, toys, etc. that all add up the weight in a hurry. Nonetheless, even accepting the 500 basis, your current 500 pounds can readily become 750 in just a couple of years. It will likely continue well beyond that. Unless you are willing to move to a HD van in a couple of years, you want to make sure you buy a trailer based on what they will weigh near the end of your vehicle's life, not now. Otherwise, you'll grow out of it in 2 years and find yourself stuck with a pairing that can't haul the grandkids it's meant for.
Mickeyfan0805 07/28/20 02:40pm Towing
RE: Leaving dog at campsite

How do you know? The folks parked next to you who are trying to relax or sleep or have an outside lunch might disagree with you. You know, because you talk to those neighbors upon returning and ask if they heard any barking. Unless they are for some reason lying and saying they didn't hear anything when they did. Yep - we asked many neighbors when we first started camping with our dog, and still check in now and then. Our dog doesn't bark in general - never has - and the camper is no different.
Mickeyfan0805 07/28/20 07:51am Beginning RVing
RE: First time tower - multiple questions

For examples this is one that I found through a quick search: https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2020-Jayco-Jay-Flight-SLX-8-264BH-5013321317 Your rental experience might give you some sense of this, but I would encourage you to be a little weary of that much length. Some might throw out hard and fast ratios on wheelbase vs. trailer length, but most of those seem to have origins in the opinion of some blogger or commentator. I've yet to see a formal guide on length published by any recognized manufacturer of vehicles or trailers - so this doesn't have a way to 'crunch numbers' as you can with weights. That said. 29' is a LOT of sail to put behind the short wheelbase of a Durango. Furthermore, such a light trailer at that length is going to be pushed around by wind that much more easily. Weight is essential, but I would suggest that you will find that much length to be too much to comfortably control with a mid-size SUV.
Mickeyfan0805 07/28/20 07:47am Travel Trailers
RE: Leaving dog at campsite

We take our dog with us on local trips (in-state), and will leave him in the camper. That said, he does not bark, and we have A/C. If either of those were not the case, we'd not leave him alone. Outside is a no-go in any campground, and most would react very poorly if your dog barked recurrently throughout your absence. FWIW - Some who spend many hours away have gone as far as to obtain temperature and/or video monitors to make sure things are safe in the camper for their dogs.
Mickeyfan0805 07/26/20 05:06pm Beginning RVing
RE: Payload Rating vs Tongue Weight

Without a lot more detail, it's hard to get too specific. That said, I agree with bikendan - I would not be likely to exceed the stated capacity in the manual, regardless of the rating listed on the hitch. When you get into higher payloads you start bringing in questions of axle ratings, WDH, etc... If your vehicle is limited to 5k towing, it likely means that many of those other components could become an issue with a higher tongue weight.
Mickeyfan0805 07/23/20 02:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Best quality 4 season trailer

My water lines froze one winter (dumb me) and I would not want that to happen again. I question whether there is such a thing as a 4 season RV and, even if there is, are there 4 season campgrounds where the work is? This is key. I too have a Rockwood with heated tanks and an enclosed underbelly. That said, I've never turned the heated tanks on, as I've never actively camped under 32 degrees. Based on camping we've done where it dropped into the 30's overnight, I expect we'd be fine for a few nights below freezing, but I wouldn't try to camp in WI in January. The secondary question, however, is where you will be in the winter. I'd have no concerned camping in FL in the winter, but the only WI campgrounds that I know are open in the winter are those with year-round seasonals, and even those don't have water and sewer available in the winter. For a full-time setup, that could become an issue if you are in the north.
Mickeyfan0805 07/23/20 08:07am Full-time RVing
RE: Travel trailer lengths

As mentioned above, the model number can vary, and sometimes has nothing to do with length at all. In the specs, I think in many, if not most, are referring to the total length, including tongue and bumper. This would mean that the actual box would be some 3-4' or so smaller. That said, you can't rely on anything for sure without getting yourself or the salesperson out there to make sure.
Mickeyfan0805 07/23/20 08:01am Camping World RV Sales
RE: Towing

A ton and a quarter over max at any distance isn’t wise IMO. you are "assuming" that the trailer is loaded/weighs at its maximum gvwr. it matters not if the trailer has a GVWR of 100,000 lbs. if it only weighs 12,000. bumpy I wholeheartedly agree. I've made this argument 100 times when people are told to match a trailer to a truck based on GVW. One trailer may have a dry weight of 10,000 and a GVW of 15,000 while another is dry at 13,500 with the same GVW of 15,000. Some smaller travel trailers have a low GVW, but are nearly overloaded the moment you put water in the tank. GVW is important to know, but it can't be the end-all number that some suggest.
Mickeyfan0805 07/23/20 07:55am Towing
RE: Towing

Looking for some thoughts on a weight question, friend needs to move her 5er to new site about 10 kms, gvw 15500#, my truck f250 rated at 13000, hitch is 24000#, i would not do this normally nor for any distance. My question is can my springs take this for this short distance, and what other possible consequences could i cause. Towing above your total GCVWR for a short distance is a matter of opinion. If it's your suspension you are worried about, then your tow rating isn't the concern. What is your payload capacity? Axle ratings? Those are the more pressing concerns when it comes to springs and other suspension elements.
Mickeyfan0805 07/22/20 07:06pm Towing
RE: First time tower - multiple questions

My Durango manual just says I need a WDH for anything more than 5,000lbs - but nothing about hooking it up. WD Hitches are different from one to the next, so the manual wouldn't cover it much. Each style is set up differently, and each set-up is different depending on the pairing of trailer and truck. I've adjusted my WDH 4 times since getting a new truck, and still don't think it's quite dialed in. I have never rented, so I can't speak to this, but I do think this is a major question in the rental equation. Do they provide you with a hitch? Do they set it up and adjust it for you? WD hitches are extremely expensive - so buying one for a couple of rentals might be cost prohibitive. That said, if you are towing any type of box trailer, you will need it (not only foe the distribution, but for the sway control). If this becomes a hurdle, you might be better off trying to rent a large pop-up. Any one of those would fit well within the capacities of your truck and would likely not call for weight distribution or sway control.
Mickeyfan0805 07/22/20 11:09am Travel Trailers
RE: First time tower - multiple questions

Generally good advice above - but there is one missing element. The 720 you list does not account for other items in the truck nor the WD hitch itself. Any food, snacks, books, etc. that you and your kids have along for entertainment are part of your weight. It's a small number, but it's there. More importantly, the WD hitch is likely to weigh upwards of 100 pounds on its own. Thus, I'd suggest your max tongue weight is closer to 600, not 720. This would suggest a LOADED trailer weight of 4,500-5,000, max. That means you are looking for something sub 4,000 dry. At that weight you are likely looking at a teardrop, A-frame, pop-up, small hybrid, or a box trailer under 20'.
Mickeyfan0805 07/22/20 08:01am Travel Trailers
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