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RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Hi IAMICHABOD - thanks for link to this from 2018.. This looks different than 28A that I have - mine does not have a rear-window. Indeed - I was wondering if it is possible to add a rear window just above the bed! Is this a different version of 28A or did someone add a window! :) Hi quasimatter,Cruise America deleted the rear window about 10 years ago,the one pictured is that old.I have not seen anyone that has put a window back in. They then deleted the window in the door a few years later. If you are interested in putting a window back in the door like MtnBikeMarty did, Here is a link to the great job he did. As for the lock question,I have not seen anyone post about it but this company RV Locks and More seems to be coming out with a remote one for the coach,they do have a keyless one. I used them to replace all of my outside locks and they are all keyed the same. The remote on the chassis doors may be dooable if it was configured from the factory.I recall someone going to a company that installs auto alarms and they managed to install a remote lock and alarm,you might ask around in your area. With my neighbor's help (he wires police cars' lights, siren,s radios, etc for his day job), we installed an alarm/doorlock wireless remote, he built a custom wiring fused harness to connect to the battery. So, I'm sure any car stereo/alarm company, Best Buy included, could install one for you. It does not do the coach door, not sure if they offer anything for those doors. We also hard wired in a CB radio, which I barely use, cause cellphone coverage is so good along the highways anyway. I love the window installed in my coach door, well worth the ~$100 and less than an hour install. I want to do a ladder at some point too. Thought about a rear bedroom window but wife has plans for us (me) to redo the whole interior...paint walls, paint cabinets, new flooring, new window blinds, re-upholster the cushions (her job). But luckily I'm too busy at work to start this remodel. ;) MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 04/21/21 11:52am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

We purchased a Cruise America Majestic 23A in November. We've only taken one short maiden voyage but have been busy putting on vents, back up camera, awning, tv and fiddling with it. Our next project is a ladder on the back. Anyone do that yet? We've had a couple 'little' issues but nothing big. Oh, did duplicate the window Cruise America on theirs but with our dog.LOVE IT! If I figure out how to post it, I will. Welcome Willy1, my plans to add a ladder got delayed with my wife wanting to remodel our CA 27G (paint, replace blinds, maybe flooring, maybe counter) all in effort to brighten up the interior. But I see IAMICHABOD all ready sent a link to the ladder info in here. I added a window in my CA door and I recommend doing that 100% if you haven't already, plus it's fairly easy for novices, like me. You can look back through this thread and see pics of my window install. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 03/19/21 11:32am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Thanks TwistedGray! BTW your interior looks great now. And just what we want to do...brighten up the inside. Thanks again. MtnBikeMarty Brightens it up for sure, and it doesn't look like an RV anymore...score! It took a lot of hours though. It wasn't easy! Honestly I probably painted our house in the same amount of time it took in here, ha. Good luck; share photos. I also tinted some of the lenses on those lights! The LEDs are super bright, too bright. I left some clear but otherwise amber'd the rest with multiple coats. It's still bright but it takes some of the blindingness away. What model do you have? I have the 27G, it's a little shorter than the big 28A, but still has the walk-around queen bed, and one chair instead of the fold out couch of the 28A. Mine's a 2011, and I got in 2016, the last year CA offered the 27G. It's distinguishable by the rounded bunk over the cab. Here's a pic: https://i.imgur.com/Hvohxtnl.jpg What scares me is, my wife is not the best painter, and how you describe how hard and time consuming it was... it's going to take her... us... me a long time. LOL
MtnBikeMarty 03/12/21 01:58pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

My wife wants to paint the interior of our CA to cover up the faux wood paneling and brighten up the inside, anybody have any suggestions on type of paint? MtnBikeMarty Hey Marty, This was the first project that I undertook. You should be fine with any paint and primer combo. It is gonna be an exhaustive process because there are so many corners, so many things to accidentally paint. PREPARATION is obviously key OR take the 5ft approach : ) One word of advice - do not bother to remove the wallpaper (just sand it a bit to provide a better surface to adhere the paint to). Otherwise, be prepared to learn a few interesting things along the way such as the number of different/random screws used throughout or find multiple holes for one thing (ie: they, whoever they is in this story, screwed new holes to re-mount things rather than using existing holes...as far as filing those old holes, nah...just leave em was their attitude. So, I filled in probably a dozen or so holes. Examples include (on mine, 19G): the mount for the dinette on the wall that takes it from dining table to bed was removed at some point, adjusted, and reinstalled about a half inch away. Someone made a mistake at some point and there were a complete batch of holes documenting that. I found similar situations with almost all of the curtain rods, strap mounts, etc. I don't know how many different screws (different heads) I found either of varying lengths, too, despite them being for the same application. I convinced CA to send me a box of screws though, so that was nice...and I have now decided I will only use square headed screws. (Why are we using Phillips and flat head when such a better solution exists? (I'll thank CA for that enlightenment.) In short, be prepared for a project that is not as simple as it is in your home ... BUT I will say this, it completely changed the look and feel of the RV. It now looks more like a studio, apartment, home, etc. ps: two coats may fly, three is better! I have had a mind to remove all the cabinetry to do another coat on them, but I really don't want to spend another evening with a paintbrush in my hand. Here is an example of the transformation. I have a few videos on the Facebook page I linked before, and I'm hopefully going to turn it into a public page so you can easily view the videos (fyi). https://i.imgur.com/yLOR7Qs.jpg Thanks TwistedGray! BTW your interior looks great now. And just what we want to do...brighten up the inside. Thanks again. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 03/11/21 08:20pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

My wife wants to paint the interior of our CA to cover up the faux wood paneling and brighten up the inside, anybody have any suggestions on type of paint? MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 03/11/21 02:22pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Whelp I may be joining your ranks, if all goes well I will be looking over a Thor Majestic 23A from Cruise America. I am a first timer and am new to owning an RV. These rental models really appealed to us with their simplicity. I felt like it would be a good fit for us with our limited RV'ing knowledge. I did RV as a kid with my parents but now its time for me to do the same with our children. I gotta say thank you guys for all the good information in here. I've been reading over all the posts in here to help calm my nerves. Man buying an RV feels alot like sipping from a fire hose. So much information and opinions. Its hard to weed through it all. Wish me luck, any last minute advice before I hopefully pull the trigger? Racerboy, Go for it! There's a lot of great info here in the 148 pages, take some time and go through it, a lot are quotes repeating the original question. But in a nutshell: skip the CA extended warranties (put that $$ in a rainy day fund), if new to RV's like me, hire a third party to inspect it prior to taking delivery, if you're thinking of a awning, go with theirs, it's a basic manual awning but their installed price is better than you can get elsewhere, take it on a shakedown outing as soon as you can to test out and familiarize yourself with everything, then get it into CA and they'll fix most anything (my refrigerator light blew out and and one verticle window was missing the clips to hold it open, they fixed both in a quick 30 minute appointment). BONUS Info: If you're in the Mesa AZ Cruise America, there's a museum of minibikes in their service waiting area, that the founders started collecting minibikes they grew up on. We had a Honda Trail 70 and neighbors had a Trail 50, CA had several in mint...way kool, made the wait time fly by as I looked at the 100 minibikes. MtnBikeMarty https://i.imgur.com/ceM1IBnl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dpSkFWal.jpg
MtnBikeMarty 02/25/21 07:01am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Thanks Chris for the above answers - Makes sense - I will plan on getting 2 identical batteries. Another quick question for Majestic 28A owners, What is the compartment in front of Master Bed - It is solid metal box with metal cover screwed on with special pin-in Hex screws. I opened it up and voila - there is nothing in there. Was it supposed to house something? Attaching a picture. https://i.postimg.cc/xX4q5x4b/20201210-144657.jpg As you can see - there is another metal box inside with sides open (nothing inside that either). Maybe it used to house something which was removed (or an option that was not installed)? It looks a bit odd being right at the foot of the bed and also just being big metal plate which does not match other flooring. PS: Is there a forum anywhere that is specific to Majestic (or even 28A)? I remember asking my CA salesman, and he said something about it was an access panel to the transmission, maybe the differential. I just took it at that and never opened it up. Maybe someone else has better information. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 12/11/20 10:08am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Floridastorm, the 3 month warranty is mainly for powertrain wear and tear but I was able to get vehicle and house issues repaired or replaced. The starter and coils/plugs tune-up was deemed normal maintenance and not covered. I purchased mine in Orlando and they are great but I'd recommend having an inspection done before you pick it up. Get as much done while it's on their lot. Floridastorm, Yes they will allow an independent inspection, I used one, then while the salesman and I were doing the paperwork, they got everything addressed on the inspection list. I paid cash, so no help with the other questions. I would recommend their price and installation of the awning it you are even slightly thinking of one in the future. I passed on theirs, figured I could find something better and cheaper, I was wrong. Though, my Mesa AZ salesguy will let me purchase one, (almost 4 years later) and schedule and install appoint. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 11/12/20 09:59am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Do you have any ideas which upgrades to steering and suspension made the most difference? We already had the steering bits that were bad replaced and an alignment (desperately needed) and added the roadmaster steering shock (I'm thinking I have to adjust it though) The rear antisway seems very thick already but it looks like the front could use replacement. I'd personally love to lower the toilet in the 28a (and of course a 50 gallon grey tank) I did my upgrades in piece meal...The new steering stablizer, seemed to eliminate/drastically reduce steering wheel dancing, the constant movement left to right to left...just to go straight down the road. It definitely brings the steering back to straight quicker when completing a turn. My original front anti-sway bar moved about 6" left to right when you just grabbed it and tried to move it. The new one, does NOT move one millimeter. It seems to have eliminated/reduced blow by from semi trucks passing, and having to white knuckle the steering wheel. The rear anti-sway bar definitely reduced/eliminated the coach from rocking and rolling when I pull into my driveway with it's rounded curb, and anything on the counter or table would go flying before. The pre-story to all this is I had my 27G almost 4 years and we had a front left shock blow out on the highway, we think metal shard's damaged the two left rear tires. Towed into a shop (thank the good sam roadside assistance policy), replaced all 4 shocks (should have upgraded to bilsteins, but they had already installed Ford OEM's before I thought of upgrading and called them), and went ahead and replaced all 6 tires (two damaged and all were beyond 5 year old mfg dates), plus AZ is tough on tires with the heat. I did have them put the "youngest" good tire on as the spare. While the rig was in the shop getting this done, I started looking on line about upgrades I could to make the drive/ride better. I did add front sumo springs, not sure how much impact they have, maybe when I have the rig heavily loaded??? I do want add rear sumo springs when I start towing a car with my rig. You can scroll back this thread and see pics and story adding those upgrades. As for the tall shower step, my 27G is the same, the 27G is no longer offered but it's very similar to the 28A, just about 3 ft shorter but still the E450 v10 chasis. I think it's just the grey tank under it (at least for the 27G), which lowering it would reduce your grey tank volume. We use a small folding step to get in and out of ours and I added some grip tape to the step. But I'm not replacing all that and I plan to install a shower grab bar when I get a chance. Happy trails... MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 10/21/20 11:30am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Buy a refurbished, they are required to see that your brakes and everything else works, extended warrenties only pay for what they list and tires, brakes, etc are maintenance items. 3700 is a lot of money. Again, I agree!
MtnBikeMarty 10/15/20 09:28am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

What do they not do with a non refurbished unit? Assume they still have to remove their graphics. I'm guessing they wouldn't repair any issues ounce you pick it up. So you would have to fix everything yourself or pay for the warranty and have to work with them. Seems more worthwhile to let them refurbish it and fix any issues you find. Then just handle anything that comes up later yourself and save the 3700 on the warranty. (Really, you would need both the cab and house warranty to make up for the difference of the lack of refurbishing. Warranty wouldn't cover tires, brakes, alignment etc ... Refurbish makes sure that all of those are a certain 'near new' level or they replace them with new. Agreed!
MtnBikeMarty 10/15/20 09:27am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

We're about to take the plunge and purchase a used RV from CA. We're really excited! We're purchasing through the Mesa, AZ location. Quick question - we will want to get it inspected prior to final purchase. I've reviewed Yelp for RV Inspectors in the area but does anyone here have a recommendation for the Phoenix/Mesa area? Thanks! Wayne I used EagleRV in Mesa, nice guy, has a mobile RV repair van. He met me there and went through the RV. I have post about it in here some where, probably 10-20 page back. Just found him at rveagle.com Marty
MtnBikeMarty 10/06/20 10:46am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

(Somewhat) Cheap Hack for Patio Light conversion to bug light: I was in my local RV store and saw this replacement patio light with a clear and amber lens, under $15, but definitely different size/shape, which would require drilling new hole(s) and resealing. https://i.imgur.com/gwUskdMl.jpg But I took the lens off mine, https://i.imgur.com/nGvf3Hvl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x1QuGbEl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6xcvUx0l.jpg Found this $10 can of transluscent yellow spray paint at my local autoparts store, and spray painted the inside and outside of the lens. And looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/QiwOfWfl.jpg No drilling, no resealing the base of the light fixture. Only thing is, it might peel off or wear off with the heat, but I'll just repaint it again since there's plenty left in the can. If my LED's ever burn out, I'd replace it with the other brand, drill new holes, and seal up, but until then, this worked fine. https://i.imgur.com/bhthwkSl.jpg Took it camping in Northern AZ last week, probably reduced 90% of the bugs coming around light at night. Happy Trails, MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 09/14/20 03:59pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Booner, Here's my CA 27G with the dinette seat cushion removed. https://i.imgur.com/gZLH2LKl.jpg Here's below the seat, sorry it's dirtier than I thought, but I never open this up... shows the back of the fuse box and the storage tube for the table leg. https://i.imgur.com/omAJ4Lol.jpg And finally the driver's seat leaned back. https://i.imgur.com/QAfBY0Sl.jpg Hope it helps, MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 08/21/20 12:21pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

MtnBikeMarty-- I called a couple of the companies that sell the rotating bases and asked them why they didn't list and Ford bases past model year 2008 or so. The basic response from the sales people didn't know, but I suspect it has something to do with the airbags. I know Fords have tight cabins but there should be something available. Then I thought I'm doing it wrong, instead of looking at a class C RV, I should look for a Ford E350 truck and I found a seat base from the Sportsmobile company that would fit, but the price was around $350. I can wait until I get the unit and take my own measurements. I've modified several vans into campers so I know it can be done, all it may take is a cutting torch, a good drill, and a little creativity. I'm more concerned in getting a little more recline in the drivers seat. It could be an awful long trip back to Missouri if I have to sit so close to the steering wheel. I have a friend who lives down in Colorado Springs with a pretty good shop and a lot of tools, so that may be my first trip and modification. He used to have an RV so he and I can go over my unit and fix some of the problems that CA don't address. Booner, I just got back from a week long trip to San Diego, with plenty of time to look at the dinette area, setting it up in the morning and putting down at night so the dogs could sleep on it. Anyway, I was thinking it would be somewhat simple to cut the dinning seat back, leave the seat bottom box intact with the fusebox and table pole holder, and yet your driver's seat would recline way back while you're driving, I don't have that problem at 5'-10". Then when parked you could install some hinges or brackets so that the dinette seat could be re-installed and the driver's seat tilted back up. I got thinking of doing something like that if I get the rotating base for the driver's seat. If I get a chance today, I'll take a couple pictures of mine, so you can see what you're up against. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 08/21/20 08:41am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Booner - you can put rotating bases on the seats - the question is will the seats actually rotate. I've measured mine (28A) up pretty carefully and I don't think they will. Not without some bizarre offset point of rotation or having the door open or some other silly restriction. They are *very* tight. I'm getting a quote next week to rip out the couch and move the passenger seat back and slightly inboard to allow it to rotate. I'll report back on how feasible (read: expensive) that is. Rotating Seats: I haven't measured mine but the on-line research I've done (for my CA 27G, E450) I thinking trying the passenger rotating seat base first and order it from these guys... https://www.discountvantruck.com/rvvanseatbases/rvvanFordseatbases.htm I'll update this when I acutally do, just been busy getting ready for trip next week. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 08/13/20 08:08am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Hello everyone! I am a new member here and I'll be picking up my new-to-me CA 23A Majestic supposedly by the 15th of September in Denver.... Does anyone know what is under the dinette bench seat behind the drivers seat? I may not have to remove the base of the seat depending what under there, but just the seat back in order to recline the drivers seat a bit more. Again, thanks for everyone's contribution to this thread. Your efforts greatly put my mind at ease. Hi Booner, I have the 27G CA RV, which is up from the 23A but not as big as the 28A, on mine the dinette seat behind the driver's seat is fuse box for the coach, with lots of wiring coming into the back of it. Also is the storage tube for the dinette table leg when you drop the table to a bed. FYI for those wondering about the other seat of the dinette, isn't much but the duct for the heater and vent blowing out to the "hallway". MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 08/11/20 10:22am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

Hi, I finally purchased a 2015 Thor Majestic 28a from Cruise America last weekend. Only 99,000 miles!! I am wondering if anyone with this model of RV has increased there battery bank to two 6 volt or two 12 volt batteries. I don't believe the battery compartment in its current state is large enough to fit two batteries unless the metal slide out tray is modified. Is this even possible to make the battery tray larger? I really want to be able to boondock and am unsure of how to solve this problem or where else the batteries could be moved. Ideally I would like to get two 6 volt AGM. Anyone know what type of business could modify the battery tray to fit two batteries? Hi nrbrooker, Congrats on the 28A, I really liked that model, we rented it for a week trip to Moab Utah, but we decided on the 27G, that they have since stopped offering, it's alittle shorter but still on the V10 chasis. Anyway, I'm currently looking into going to 2 batteries. I asked my local RV shop (state trailer supply) but they wouldn't do it. The 27G like the 28A looks like there is room in the pull out tray, but would definitely have to be modified to hold two. My only suggestion for now, is check out the you tuber"RV with Tito DIY". https://www.youtube.com/c/RvwithtitoToday/featured He does alot of Class C upgrades and seems to really know solar and battery upgrades. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 07/31/20 10:33am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

I just found out my 28A is due in Denver this weekend. Of course it has to get inspected and issues fixed but now that it's getting more 'real' I'm trying to come up with a list of possibly sensible upgrades. To be modified by experience once I actually use it of course. So far at the top of the list are rear view camera, TPMS (due to the dual rear wheels), Driver/Passenger seats, shocks and sway bar. I was wondering about leveling jacks. Has anyone added these as an aftermarket option? Is there an accepted opinion on whether or not it's a good idea? Thanks All good upgrades, and consider the steering stabilizer, my original one was week and could be moved with two fingers when I took it off. As for leveling jacks, I skipped them, just stuck on two stick on trailer levelers just inside the coach door. Like these. https://i.imgur.com/m993hVcl.jpg Then I have couple scrap wood 2x8's, and 20 ton bottle jack from Harbor Freight (for flats if needed) that I bring in the RV. Also a couple a jack stands at home, but in almost 4 years of use, I have yet to need any of them, RV campgrounds have level spots, and dry camping, I've always lucked out and found level ground. One added bonus of the new front and rear beefier sway bars, the RV has little to no rocking when camped and people walking around inside. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 07/27/20 10:10am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

2012 Cruise America 27G/E450 v10 chasis update: I just got the rear anti-sway bar installed by my local Ford Truck/RV service center, I went with the Hellwig (rear) kit which requires no drilling of the frame, as opposed to the RoadMaster anti-sway kit, which requires drilling. Decided to have them install it cause Phoenix is too HOT outside to work on it and my lack of power tools... ~$225. https://i.imgur.com/CFuzgDsl.jpg WOW does it drive better... heck yes! It used to rock-n-roll like crazy just pulling into my driveway over the rounded curb. Haven't highway tested it yet with semi's blowing by, but we're taking it out soon on a kayaking camp trip. MtnBikeMarty
MtnBikeMarty 07/15/20 11:09am Class C Motorhomes
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