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RE: Electric Pickup?

Btw my 08 Silverado half ton with V8 motor gets full 3 mpg more then GM new mini trucks w 4 cyl motor,go figureImagine getting a solid 50 to 80 MPGe with more usable power. With today's technology, imagining is all you will do. Yah no. An EV car gets north of 100 mpg/e with a lot more power and torque than a gasser or diesel equivalent. Even if a truck is half that.....
Reisender 11/11/19 08:47pm General RVing Issues
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

BTW there is a separate thread on the Semi. All this has been discussed. TEN more days to the scheduled release of the Tesla consumer pick-up truck. Then the sparks can really fly ;)Or it could be a real dud, and nobody will be interested. Sneak pictures I've seen seem to show a really ugly, non-useful truck. Maybe they got their styling cues from the Aztec. There was a crash course in ugly. Without knowing what the Tesla will look like I think Rivian has done a decent job with theirs. Not ugly but also not conventional. It would be nice to see Rivian make a go of it. Right now Tesla has no competition which is not necessarily a good thing. I hope they do well as well...but competition is good.
Reisender 11/11/19 10:10am Tow Vehicles
RE: Electric Pickup?

For us RVers, pick up or a an SUV is a must to tow our RVs. And EV makes sense for our long travel miles. Right now I can imagine a big percentage of us will be opting for EV trucks when available and makes economic sense. I agree...except maybe the economic sense part. People buy 60,000 half tons...as grocery getters. :). I’m willing to bet that a LOT of people will spend 70 or 80,000 dollars on a Tesla high performance truck...on payments...spread over 8 years. :) Just sayin. We replace our vehicles about every 5 years just because we like new tech, safety features etc.....and that makes absolutely no economic sense. :). Life is short, death is long. You can’t take it with you. :).
Reisender 11/10/19 06:18pm General RVing Issues
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

Well, technically yah. YouTube is full of videos of them going down the road hauling various loads. Pretty much all over the country. But they are prototypes and there are only two of them. Well if youtube is full of them it should be real easy for you to link 5 or 6 of them. I say you won't be able to. The clock starts now. Here are a few "fake" cars by GM. https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-vehicle-collection/index.html Since they weren't available to buy they must be fakes. I just went to YouTube and typed Tesla semi truck. I stopped counting after a dozen. Lots of videos of the prototypes hauling various types of loads...including new Tesla’s. :)
Reisender 11/10/19 05:41pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

Gee, 2 years ago he was unveiling the semi truck that would change everything, anyone seen one going down the road? Fool me once.... Well, technically yah. YouTube is full of videos of them going down the road hauling various loads. Pretty much all over the country. But they are prototypes and there are only two of them. This will be the same with the pickup. The unveil is next week. Probably a couple years to production. It was the same with the model 3. Model y was unveiled last year and goes into production next spring. Tesla always seems to come thru. Usually with delays but they eventually get out there. VW said they would have a million EV’s on the road by 2020. We can all see how that went. Tesla is still the only mass producer of EV’s although Nissan could be arguably included in that category albeit at a much slower rate. GM, Ford, FCA are still no shows. European manufacturers are starting to produce now. But still quite far back from Tesla. Tesla remains the only long range EV manufacturer and the only manufacturer with a comprehensive charging network. People like to dis Tesla because it’s an American company (especially Americans which is weird) but Tesla has been, is and continues to be the world leader in EV’s and grid and off grid energy production and storage.
Reisender 11/10/19 07:38am Tow Vehicles
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

This outfit shows fake videos of their booster rockets landing themselves. Now they are talking electric vehicles with useful range? This okboomer does has a question: how is enough AC electricity going to be generated to power the world motor vehicle fleet? Utilities expect to see a total grid load increase of about 20 percent to power the private vehicle fleet. The average daily consumption of a commuter vehicle is 6 to 8 kWh. Meh. Most Utilities are welcoming the customers. They have 30 years to figure it out. It doesn’t happen overnight.
Reisender 11/09/19 06:46am Tow Vehicles
RE: Electric Pickup?

How many pickup owners actually haul anything? Looking at all the pickups in my area, it is not many. I do. If you own a house, you need and use a truck. From hauling mulch, sand, pavers for side walks, lawnmowers, gravel, bikes, plywood, fire wood. The list is endless. And yeah. even groceries. Also need the bed to put suitcases in while traveling. thing is. when you go get sand, gravel, or mulch. A truck is the perfect thing for them to use the front end loader to dump what ever you are buying in the bed. Or a 700 dollar utility trailer. Our extended family bought one about 10 years ago as none of us own trucks but all own houses. It has done a lot of work over the years. We all pull it with hatchbacks or SUV’s. I have no problem with people owning trucks if that’s what they like but suggesting that a truck is a requirement if one owns a house is a huge stretch. We do have a neighbour with a truck that borrows our trailer whenever there is s dirty job. Doesn’t want to scratch his truck box. :). Scratches? I always thought that's what bed covers were for. But in truth. If I am at the hardware store, and see something I want. I just load it. I don't have to go get the trailer. and unless the trailer has solid sides, bottom, and tailgate. sand, gravel, and mulch runs out. I've seen people leave a trail all the way home from the mulch yard. Unless you put a tarp in it. I don't have to put a tarp in the truck. and I'm not sure I'd want to put 2 scoops of sand, or mulch, in one of those little trailers. It may not be a requirement. But it sure is a handy thing to have. especially if you do a lot of stuff to the house, and lawn. plus, I don't have to find a place to park a trailer. I would, and did have a truck if I had or didn't have a camper. Always did. I hear ya on the storage. Luckily one of the family members has a small acreage. Can't store anything in our Townhouse community. Ours is a solid bottom. Looking kinda rough after 10 years of shared use. :)
Reisender 11/08/19 05:17pm General RVing Issues
RE: Electric Pickup?

Terryallan, Reisender, I, and every truck owner on this forum all use our trucks. Of course we do: we are RVers. I am saying that there is a big market out there for pickups that are used for hauling only now and then, and electric trucks can work for that market. For myself, I like my diesel F350 with the 98-gallon auxillary tank. Holy ****. Yep, that sucker would have some serious range. Canada to Mexico in one shot....towing. :)
Reisender 11/08/19 10:07am General RVing Issues
RE: Electric Pickup?

How many pickup owners actually haul anything? Looking at all the pickups in my area, it is not many. I do. If you own a house, you need and use a truck. From hauling mulch, sand, pavers for side walks, lawnmowers, gravel, bikes, plywood, fire wood. The list is endless. And yeah. even groceries. Also need the bed to put suitcases in while traveling. thing is. when you go get sand, gravel, or mulch. A truck is the perfect thing for them to use the front end loader to dump what ever you are buying in the bed. Or a 700 dollar utility trailer. Our extended family bought one about 10 years ago as none of us own trucks but all own houses. It has done a lot of work over the years. We all pull it with hatchbacks or SUV’s. I have no problem with people owning trucks if that’s what they like but suggesting that a truck is a requirement if one owns a house is a huge stretch. We do have a neighbour with a truck that borrows our trailer whenever there is s dirty job. Doesn’t want to scratch his truck box. :).
Reisender 11/08/19 09:50am General RVing Issues
RE: Electric Pickup?

Probably close to half the pickups in our neighbour hood are 50,000 dollar grocery getters.
Reisender 11/08/19 08:01am General RVing Issues
RE: Want an electric truck?

For me, an electric truck would have to preform nearly equal to my GMC 2500. I could sacrifice 20% in range, provided I could refuel completely in no more than triple the time I can refuel a gas truck. I coulg justify a price premium. But I couldn't accept any decrease in payload and towing capacities. And those range requirements have to be met under the most adverse condItions relating to loads and weather. I think the adverse weather (eg real cold weather) would probably make it not work for you. Everything else would probably doable. Cold weather affects EV’s, cold weather affects EV’s towing even more. You might be running your GMC 2500 for awhile yet. Petrol vehicles will have a role to play for a decade or two yet. Your situation is one of them yet.
Reisender 11/07/19 03:02pm Truck Campers
RE: Want an electric truck?

Why would you need a fast charge at home? Well God forbid you have to leave your home more than once per day. Maybe I want to head in one direction in the morning, then the other direction in the afternoon. I'm not going to be happy if I have to wait until tomorrow to run that second errand. Or, maybe there's an EMERGENCY? Need to take a sick kid to urgent care... Nope, sorry, car's dead, gotta wait until tomorrow morning... or call an ambulance, or beg a neighbor with a gas car, or call an uber. Maybe making them suffer will toughen them up. I’m not following. On the off chance you came home in a gas car and wanted to go out that afternoon the other direction would have to gas it up before you went home. Do the same thing with the EV. We’ve been in that situation a couple times. Pop into a fast charger for 15 minutes before you go home. Put half a charge on it. Then when you get home you’ll still have half a charge for emergencies. It’s not that hard living with an EV. Home fueling makes it considerably more convenient than gas diesel or propane or hydrogen. And the fuel is a heck of a lot cheaper.
Reisender 11/07/19 02:02pm Truck Campers
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Interesting read on some of the challenges of getting into EV’s. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/38AE9CC0-FBFC-11E9-8FA4-88C931E031FB
Reisender 11/07/19 09:11am Tow Vehicles
RE: Want an electric truck?

No idea how much longer Tesla will tease buyers before it actually becomes available: I was observing Tesla when they start advertising their first roadster 15 or 20 years ago. Took them like 10 years to actually put them on the street (with heavy taxpayers contributions) and when I first saw the roadster on the street, my first question was "where is the remote for this toy?" The roadster never become popular, even paper numbers would say it can beat most of the Ferrari in street racing. Every few months I drive via Area 51 on Nevada desert. The 8 Tesla charging stations in Tonopah never have a customer, although I've seen couple of Teslas on the highway there. Gas stations often have waiting line. So I am not holding my breath for Tesla pickup. But on the other hand- I visited commercial vans service station in San Diego last month. They had 3 big delivery vans powered by batteries. By Ford. There will never be as much demand for DC fast chargers as gas stations as the vast majority of charging is done at home. We are seeing more and more Petrocans with fast chargers though. We have used them from time to time.
Reisender 11/07/19 09:07am Truck Campers
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

You will finally get an idea what the Tesla pickup will look like after two years of teasing. No idea how much longer Tesla will tease buyers before it actually becomes available: https://www.zdnet.com/article/teslas-mystery-pickup-electric-cybertruck-unveiled-on-november-21-says-elon-musk/ My guess is at least a year to production. Battery supply is tight in the industry. The model Y and energy storage market will be sucking up capacity.
Reisender 11/07/19 08:55am Tow Vehicles
RE: Elon tease -- Tesla pick will look like military vehicle

Where was this thing designed in Moscow? Its the most austere version of a motor vehicle imaginable, he will have to do a lot better than this to compete with the rest of todays pickup builders. Nobody knows what it looks like. All just photoshop guesses. I think the idea is to not compete with other pickups. He’ll probably shoot for the high performance crowd. EV’s are kinda naturals at that. Not every truck owner needs to tow 600 kilometers per day.
Reisender 11/07/19 07:00am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Would love to test drive this but for sure won't afford this haha I’m not sure they have put a price on a plaid model S but I’m thinking around 120 -130 grand. Still 20 - 30 grand cheaper than a Taycan but 40 grand more than a standard model S. Just a guess. Big car though. The sucker would barely fit in my garage.
Reisender 11/05/19 08:15pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Surprised that he couldn't manhandke the steering wheel...nor allowed to work the brake pedal https://insideevs.com/news/380193/tesla-model-s-took-control/ The folks who try this route to cover up their own mistake usually don’t know about the vehicle data logs....which always prove them wrong. Lots of things have to go wrong for something like this to happen. How would autopilot even engage when not on a road. The software specifically written to prevent it. All the torque sensors on the steering wheel would have to fail so he couldn’t override the steering input...which can be done with your baby finger. Brake systym would have to have a complete and total failure. They are mechanical. And all (and a bunch of other things) would have to fail at the same time. Toyota had a run on this kind of thing until people figured out that the black box records all inputs. On edit. Typo.
Reisender 11/05/19 08:59am Tow Vehicles
RE: FCA To Merge With PSA

I still think they should work on an universal swappable battery pack where one pulls into a station and a robot swaps in a recharged battery and you are on your way again in a couple minutes, along with a "refueling" charge on your credit card. The number of battery packs is base on size and weight of vehicle. The Radio Control hobby has airplanes, buggies, cars and trucks that have been doing it for years. I do not go to the field and fly a plane once and then have to bring it home and recharge it. I can fly as many flights as batteries I bring along. Having done the off road RC car thing for years back in the day, I think you're on to something. Let the battery MFG's duke it out as well. It would definitely benefit the consumer. Tesla had a functioning setup like that but it wasn’t popular and that was back in the days of max charge rates of 120 Kw. Now at 250 kw charge rates and average 15 minute V3 Supercharger stops I don’t think it would find a market. Most people take that long to pee, grab a coffee, clean the windshield and move on. I would think most of the V2 stations will be upgraded to V3 over the next few years and most of the new Superchargers are V3. Besides. Most people charge at home. Many rarely go to a Supercharger. There will never be a need for as many DC fast chargers as there are gas stations. Maybe the non Tesla brands can get together and look into this kinda thing as they all charge at about half the rate. Then again, all the other brands combined together don’t come close to Tesla’s number...except in China of course.
Reisender 11/03/19 11:02am Tow Vehicles
RE: FCA To Merge With PSA

There has been lots of rumours of panic flying around FCA that they are finding themselves with no path to electrification. No R&D, no battery making capacity and an internal anti EV culture led by their last CEO. This article gives a glimpse into one of the reasons they may have done this merger. GM’s approach was to contract out a car (The Bolt) to Korean firms and then assembling it in the US with a GM sticker on it. But Bolts are crazy expensive for them and sales are disappointing. I wonder if GM may not try some kind of merger approach with Volkswagen. Here’s the article on FCA. https://electrek.co/2019/11/02/the-fca-psa-merger-could-create-an-electric-vehicle-powerhouse-under-carlos-tavares/
Reisender 11/03/19 06:12am Tow Vehicles
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