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RE: This is our RV electric future. It's the future man!

The Californian law doesn’t affect pickups over 8500 GVWR. If you prefer a larger RV you’ll still be able to buy a gas or diesel truck to tow it in 2035.That is what it is so far. The way the wind is blowing, it will just get more restrictive.... And you did not address the rest of my post. Biden flat out said he wants to put the fossil fuel companies out of business. And he is backing that up with his actions. So yes, we will be prevented from buying a gas/diesel shortly... Nobody will produce them if the fuel is not available. The only hope is if a change is made in our govt. Can’t help you with that. I’m not American and don’t follow the politics. We lived on and off in California for 17 years so am familiar with that area only. Well, that and some military time in Texas, but that was only a few months. Cheers.
Reisender 09/21/22 05:14pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Queston on towing Smart Car

Not an issue towing a smart car 4 down.
Reisender 09/21/22 03:54pm Dinghy Towing
RE: This is our RV electric future. It's the future man!

The Californian law doesn’t affect pickups over 8500 GVWR. If you prefer a larger RV you’ll still be able to buy a gas or diesel truck to tow it in 2035.
Reisender 09/21/22 08:59am Tow Vehicles
RE: This is our RV electric future. It's the future man!

Meh, this whole only being able to tow 100 miles and then having to charge thing is bogus. That’s for a specific size, profile and weight of trailer. There are thousands of EV RVers on the Facebook towing groups who are getting double that towing smaller, low profile and lighter trailers. There are lots of different sized RV’s. If you have a bigger trailer with a larger profile then stick with gas or diesel. Nobody is making you choose otherwise. But for those towing smaller RV’s you simply have a third option. Towing with an EV is a very good experience. Torque, power, centre of gravity and braking are just a few of the advantages of towing with electric. Personally I think the towing ranges will double in the next 5 years. Maybe sooner. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52204803650_28727cdd0e_c.jpgI could carry that little camper in the garage of my Momentum with room to spare. Might even be able to fit a couple of them in it. As for nobody is making us choose otherwise... Where have you been? Entire states are contemplating joining California in outlawing ICEs.Our government is taking actions to purposely drive up the price of fuel while trying to "put the oil companies out of business."(Biden stated exactly that.) "Nobody is trying to make us choose EVs." Are you dreaming? No idea. I’m not American. So I guess I’ll ask. Which states are preventing you from buying a gas truck to tow your momentum. Never heard of this.
Reisender 09/20/22 07:26pm Tow Vehicles
RE: This is our RV electric future. It's the future man!

Meh, this whole only being able to tow 100 miles and then having to charge thing is bogus. That’s for a specific size, profile and weight of trailer. There are thousands of EV RVers on the Facebook towing groups who are getting double that towing smaller, low profile and lighter trailers. There are lots of different sized RV’s. If you have a bigger trailer with a larger profile then stick with gas or diesel. Nobody is making you choose otherwise. But for those towing smaller RV’s you simply have a third option. Towing with an EV is a very good experience. Torque, power, centre of gravity and braking are just a few of the advantages of towing with electric. Personally I think the towing ranges will double in the next 5 years. Maybe sooner. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52204803650_28727cdd0e_c.jpg
Reisender 09/20/22 05:51pm Tow Vehicles
RE: TFLEV gets disinformation from Cyber Truck fan bois.

Love those tear drops. Maybe one for me at Christmas. That must be one powerful little EV. Yah it’s pretty good. We got it with the trailer towing package and the AB performance boost. So about 450 horsepower and about the same torque. Fun fact. The car does zero to 60 mph in about 4 seconds without the trailer, it does zero to 60 mph in about 8 seconds with the trailer. It’s crazy fast. And the regenerative braking just makes it a really nice towing experience. We are now over 14000 kilometres of touring across Canada this summer and still have about 1200 kilometres to go. Presently touring on Vancouver island before heading back home to the BC interiour. Cheers. This pic is Waterton lake provincial park in Alberta. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52204298426_85aaf80d7a_c.jpg
Reisender 09/16/22 05:17pm Tow Vehicles
RE: TFLEV gets disinformation from Cyber Truck fan bois.

TP Just saw a Canadian built "Escape" brand dual axle trailer. 8-7.5' wide 8' tall, 18' or so long. Swag axles were 2500 lbs or so. Perfect sized trailer for a Rivian. Even if the Rivian has a unibody frame. Assuming engineers designed it correctly, I'd pull it. R-Pod trailers are another brand style that would fit behind a Rivian too. Marty Yah. And the [email protected] as well. We ran into some folks from Washington in a provincial park in BC pulling a [email protected] like ours in the picture. He felt a comfortable range would be around 300 kilometres towing it behind their Rivian, although just like us the distance is more set by the spacing of the DC fast chargers. Our comfortable range is more like 200 kilometres although the instrumentation says it’s probably closer to 240 kilometres. Didn’t have much time but it looked nice and seemed to have tons of useable storage. Really nice little truck for towing a small 18 footer trailer like ours. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52101802597_1a7ac10f30_c.jpg
Reisender 09/16/22 04:24pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many folks want an EV

The all use CVTs which only last about 100k miles, then $5k to replace. CVT’s in electric vehicles? Which ones.
Reisender 09/15/22 02:49pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many of you own an EV?

Here's Why Major Car Manufacturers Believe Hydrogen Cars Are The Future BY EUGENIA AKHIM PUBLISHED 10 HOURS AGO We delve into the reasons why several car giants are pursuing the hydrogen avenue of cars for the future instead of electric-powered vehicles. Above very recent news article from Google news and hotcars.com As a member of the 300 million gasser club, I will wait for my hydrogen fuel car. I am in no hurry. Evidently EVs are now old news. Wink Wink (this is a joke for the slow ones) According to business news most EV owners till own a gasser. Maybe hidden away for rainy day???? I quit reading after they said this. LOL. :). “Another drawback to EVs is their charging time, which is too slow. The average electric car (60 kWh battery) takes 8 hours to charge from empty-to-full with a 7kW charging point. Meanwhile, the Tesla Model S (Long Range) takes up to 12 hours to charge using the Tesla Wall Connector, while the Audi E-Tron needs 10.5 hours to charge, accordingy to Kelley Blue Book. Conversely, hydrogen cars require just 3 to 5 minutes to charge a full tank.” LOL. Can’t get more wrong that that. :). Or funnier. :). I mean they could have used a 3 KW charge point and then said it took 24 hours. Or maybe a 1 kw charge point and then said 100 hours. Wonder why the chose 7 kw. Lucky number? :). LOL. Cheers.Maybe they chose 7kW because that’s what most EV’s available today will accept in at home use. Clicky Maybe. But I f you are going by that metric than that is incorrect as most closer to 8 kw or above. Second of all, why compare a public hydrogen station than you would think that they would want to compare to a DC fast charge station. And most EV’s sold today charge at up to 170 KW, and a typical charge session for most EV’s is 20 minutes, not 12 hours. As well, talk to anyone who has filled a hydrogen car and it’s more like a 10 minute process not 5 minutes. Weird story. Jmho.
Reisender 09/09/22 08:37am Tow Vehicles
RE: How many of you own an EV?

I understand from recent news readings that fast EV chargers are in short supply in USA. Do you still own a gasser???? I am starting a poll for fun and grins. Not sure if you are asking me or somebody else. We haven’t owned a gasser in over 7 years. Sorry, not up on DC fast chargers in the US. We didn’t have any issues with the availability of DC fast chargers on our cross Canada tour, or so far on our BC interior and Vancouver island tour. Still lots of room for improvement off the main routes. More going in everyday though. Also, west coast US hasn’t been a problem for us. Haven’t had any experience further inland yet. Safe travels.
Reisender 09/08/22 08:38pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many of you own an EV?

Here's Why Major Car Manufacturers Believe Hydrogen Cars Are The Future BY EUGENIA AKHIM PUBLISHED 10 HOURS AGO We delve into the reasons why several car giants are pursuing the hydrogen avenue of cars for the future instead of electric-powered vehicles. Above very recent news article from Google news and hotcars.com As a member of the 300 million gasser club, I will wait for my hydrogen fuel car. I am in no hurry. Evidently EVs are now old news. Wink Wink (this is a joke for the slow ones) According to business news most EV owners till own a gasser. Maybe hidden away for rainy day???? I quit reading after they said this. LOL. :). “Another drawback to EVs is their charging time, which is too slow. The average electric car (60 kWh battery) takes 8 hours to charge from empty-to-full with a 7kW charging point. Meanwhile, the Tesla Model S (Long Range) takes up to 12 hours to charge using the Tesla Wall Connector, while the Audi E-Tron needs 10.5 hours to charge, accordingy to Kelley Blue Book. Conversely, hydrogen cars require just 3 to 5 minutes to charge a full tank.” LOL. Can’t get more wrong that that. :). Or funnier. :). I mean they could have used a 3 KW charge point and then said it took 24 hours. Or maybe a 1 kw charge point and then said 100 hours. Wonder why the chose 7 kw. Lucky number? :). LOL. Cheers.
Reisender 09/08/22 07:46pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How many of you own an EV?

We have been an EV only family since 7.5 years ago. Retired last year and down to one vehicle that is also our tow vehicle. 2022 Tesla model Y with tow package and AB performance package. Serves us well. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52101802597_1a7ac10f30_c.jpg
Reisender 09/08/22 03:45pm Tow Vehicles
RE: EV jump start

So why can’t you bring a “Gas Can” to an EV or carry one in your trunk? Can’t they make a small battery that can hold 5-10 miles of charge that can be connected to the vehicle via power cord? Not to recharge the main battery but a temporary battery pack. Seems like an opportunity like those swappable propane cylinders. Oh yeah, and there are multiple levels of readout or alarms on ICE based cars that alert people they are running out of fuel. But people still manage it. They can and do have those small batteries. Some Triple A units have them just for that purpose. They are typically 4 to 8 kw. They are modular and easily carried by hand. They usually use a CCS format.
Reisender 09/06/22 03:54pm Around the Campfire
RE: EV jump start

Our local (SE Michigan) has at least a few "EV Rescue" trucks. Since you can't being anything like a "gas can" to an EV, they have several roll-backs with largish generators mounted on the deck. They can go and pick up the dead EV and occupant and charge the EV enough to be self propelled and deliver both to a destination. I don't know if the service is covered by their standard coverage. Matt Probably. Ours does. Either a tow or a charge if they have the emergency charge equipment. They also pick up our trailer. But, like I say, if you use the instrumentation in the car it would be pretty hard to run an electric car flat, either with or without a trailer. Just tell (by voice) the car where you are going. The car will tell you in the form of a graph how much of a charge you will arrive with. It’s that simple.
Reisender 09/06/22 08:58am Around the Campfire
RE: EV jump start

I recall reading that Tesla's maybe not the current models, had to be flatbedded back to a Tesla shop if the battery was flatlined. They could not be recharged in the field. No. No problem charging in the field even if driven to (and past) zero percent. Lots of people do “run to zero” tests to see how far past zero an electric car will go. Triple A units have modular 4 to 8 kWh lithium packs they use to “jump” them but it’s not like jumping a 12 volt battery. It’s typically a 15 to 20 minute process. Or a generator would work. About the same time although less of a charge than the Lithium portable pack as they use a CCS or Chademo connection with them. I The instrumentation is very good on EV’s. You would have to work very hard and deliberately to kill a battery in an EV. Or be dumb as a post. Slightly off topic Bjorn from Norway did a test on our model Y. The car went for 33 kilometres after the battery read zero percent. On the Coquihala highway between the Okanagan valley and Vancouver (abiut 450 kilometres) about 7 people per weekend run out of gas and BCAA has to rescue them. Never makes the news. But if an electric car someday runs out of power on that stretch you can be guaranteed it will be international news. :).
Reisender 09/05/22 10:31pm Around the Campfire
RE: charging an EV at a campground

As a customer I don’t worry about the infrastructure. When I ask at check in or when we call they let me know if I can charge. If the voltage is low the car automatically limits the current in 25 percent increments. Just like WIFi or other services campground customers will make their decisions on campgrounds based on amenities provided and price. Those who want on site charging will stay at campgrounds that provide it. We are already seeing that play out. Nothing wrong with a campground owner putting a big sign at the gate saying “no EV charging”. EV RVers will spread the word on campgrounds that have charging as an amenity, the price, wether it’s on the site or in a parking lot etc etc. It’ll all work itself out free market style. It already is. Jmho.
Reisender 09/04/22 08:09am General RVing Issues
RE: charging an EV at a campground

but back on topic, I’m not too sure about EV charging and Campgrounds being a good mix - Maybe I’m wrong here…JMHO 3 tonsYes actually back on topic would be how to charge..... not so much if charging is good or bad. I think I will leave it up to the camp owner to decide if charging an EV is good or bad at their own location and their discretion. Exactly, I’m much more in favor of letting the CG owner-operators find a way to sort this matter all out (though I sincerely wish them well as enforcement will likely be problematic :E), Me not too much in favor of yet another intransigent bureaucratic solution… FWIW, your points are duly noted Sir, and I’ve enjoyed the conversational respite !! :) 3 tons Totally agree. The campground owner knows his campground and infrastructure. If he thinks it’s a bad idea he can simply not allow it. Alternatively if he has confidence in his infrastructure he can advertise it as EV charge friendly and attract clients. There are a number of charge apps he can add his campground to. As well he can spread the news on the Facebook EV towing groups and the word will get out. (This is already happening). Bottom line is it’s the owner/operators choice.
Reisender 09/03/22 07:17pm General RVing Issues
RE: charging an EV at a campground

And, as most EVs are only capable of pulling small trailers, you aren't likely to see one campsite pulling power to charge the EV plus run 2+ ACs, 2 televisions, a microwave, coffee maker, hair dryer, electric fireplace heater, electric blanket, etc. Don't forget that you can have a 45 foot diesel pusher with 3 ACs and a clothes dryer towing an EV that needs charging. We used to do that. We rarely charged at a campsite though. Usually at charging facilities when we were out and about. In a pinch we charged overnight with our level charger. 1.4 kw draw. Meh.
Reisender 09/03/22 03:33pm General RVing Issues
RE: charging an EV at a campground

Reisender said, “When we charge in a campground we are almost always on a 30 amp site. Our car can’t pull more than 24 amps. Literally can’t trip the breaker. But our little trailer can. Between AC, hot water, fridge, converter, microwave etc etc. Easy to pop the breaker.” Well, I’m old enough to recall the gas rationing of the 70’s (due to OPEC), snd the long lines at the service stations (even and odd days, etc) and saw more than one uber heated argument (and WORSE!)…Are we to suppose that human nature has by now evolved enough to avert such hostile interpersonal behavior?? 3 tons LOL :). I hear ya. :).
Reisender 09/03/22 01:21pm General RVing Issues
RE: charging an EV at a campground

Another summertime issue in many campgrounds is sure to be that EV charging may preempt the ability of others to operate their air conditioning… As temperatures rise to to 100’s (uh-o :( !!), this is sure to test the mental metal of otherwise friendly fee-paying for services campers… 3 tons - mostly (happily!) :) off-the-grid… (full disclosure, 400a/hr LFP, 660w rooftop solar - newly added 360w of portable MPPT PV..) I read this twice and I’m not sure I understand. Why would using an RV pedestal to charge a car pre-empt someone else on another site from running an AC? Maybe I misunderstood this. Because there is a finite capacity in campground wiring, in most cases installed prior to today where everyone has to have a huge monster of an RV with 2 or 3 air conditioners, heat pumps, electric clothes dryers etc. The vast majority of places I have been have had issues such as low voltage on crowded weekends etc. Ah ok. I don’t know though. We drove a pusher for 18 years. On hot days with the various systems running that sucker gobbled up the electrons. When we charge in a campground we are almost always on a 30 amp site. Our car can’t pull more than 24 amps. Literally can’t trip the breaker. But our little trailer can. Between AC, hot water, fridge, converter, microwave etc etc. Easy to pop the breaker. And if the voltage drops the trailer just pulls harder. The car automatically current limits to 18 or 12 amps if the voltage drops to 111 ish volts. Jmho. Not an expert. John
Reisender 09/03/22 12:44pm General RVing Issues
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