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RE: Article on Rivian Electric half ton. Charging network.

All of this while the fights are going on over the power pedestal. That's what I'm waiting for, and there is no doubt it will happen I don’t know. Does that happen at gas pumps? Over 90 percent of charging is done at home. Don't you remember the gas shortages during the 70's? Waiting in line for hours to get gas. Now, do that with EV's that take 30-60 minutes (or longer) to charge. There will be altercations. If building charging stations keep up with the EV's being pushed on us it will be okay. Yes, most charge their EV at home. What happens when people start taking long trips and there are not sufficient charging stations? I'm not against EV's, I'm just being realistic. I would imagine that market forces will continue to cause EV charge station growth. The last 10 years should be a good indicator of that. 5 years ago there were probably a dozen DCFC points in our province. Now there are hundreds. In the 70’s I was in grade school sooooo There will never be a need for as many EV chargers as there is gas stations. People charge at home. The average charge stop is down around 20 minutes or less on the latest high speed chargers and the latest EV’s. Trucks probably a little longer as they would have bigger batteries. Charge speed has tripled in 10 years. I suspect it will do that again in another 10 years.
Reisender 02/26/21 05:09pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Article on Rivian Electric half ton. Charging network.

All of this while the fights are going on over the power pedestal. That's what I'm waiting for, and there is no doubt it will happen I don’t know. Does that happen at gas pumps? Over 90 percent of charging is done at home.
Reisender 02/26/21 04:30pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035

I have couple of questions for everybody whining and crying about how the US will never accept E vehicles, solar/wind power, never work for us, we can't change, or if we do change not that fast yada, yada yada. First, do you remember before it was discovered Freon was destroying the atmosphere? The world is ending! No R12! How can we drive with no AC?! But when we could not get R12, we fixed the AC instead of adding a can. I bet a higher % of cars on the road now have working AC. Now the major deal; Man or countries, when faced with change, there are 2 choices. Lead or follow but get out of the way. If the rest of the world makes the change what happens to US? Will the rest decide the US has nothing to export but pollution and hate, and refuse to trade with us? I hear ya. I think there will be challenges ahead for the US on this. I'm not an American but I read constantly on the forums here and various news sources that the US pretty much has a third world grid and very little chance of ever improving it because of some kind of geo-political struggle. I would think though at some point many that are able to will just toss in the towel on connecting to the grid and make their own power. That in itself would probably kind of solve the problem as the utilities can stay with the third world grid approach and many will just become self sufficient with solar and wind. It would probably work. No idea really. Just conjecture.
Reisender 02/26/21 03:20pm Tow Vehicles
Article on Rivian Electric half ton. Charging network.

As per the title. Interesting read. https://electrek.co/2021/02/26/rivian-adventure-network-charging-stations-revealed-higher-capacity-than-expected/
Reisender 02/26/21 02:40pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035

If power companies can't make and provide power at competitive prices people will just put up their own solar systems and make their own.JMHO If I did that here in the Northeast, I would be without power 8 months of the year. Today and part of yesterday was the first time I've seen the sun in weeks! Sure. But there are lots of places in the world where it works fine. Either way, if power companies get stupid about it they will lose LOTS of customers. Kinda hard to make your own gasoline. Pretty easy to make your own power.
Reisender 02/25/21 03:17pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035

Meh. That is 14 years away. In the last 10 years EV's have gone from having 120 kilometers of range to having 650 Kilometers of range. Average charge stop times have dropped from hours to 20 minutes. In 14 years they will have changed a lot more. In 2035 no one is going to want a clunky, gutless, noisy, stinky, high maintenance gasser car or light truck. Anybody still making them will be catering to an ever smaller market. If power companies can't make and provide power at competitive prices people will just put up their own solar systems and make their own. I'm willing to bet those who have recently suffered a major outage are already looking into it. JMHO
Reisender 02/25/21 02:57pm Tow Vehicles
RE: The Future of Chryslers SRT Division

At some point they are going to have to electrify the charger and challenger if they are going to stay relevant. Haven’t seen much on their plans for EV versions other than some concept chatter.
Reisender 02/24/21 07:30pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

If we're going to transition ground transportation to electricity, we're going to need to generate a lot more of it and beef up the grid to handle the extra workload. It isn't simply a matter of adding charging stations. I have no idea how much fossil fuel goes into ground transportation or how that energy would translate to electricity but it's probably significant. I would also say that unless that extra electricity comes from green energy, I'm not sure we're netting out much benefit. Although I suppose there's some value in beginning the transition. On the BC Hydro website they indicate that if every personal vehicle in the province were to magically become electric overnight the grid load would increase by 19 percent. So space that out over a few decades and it’s not such a big deal. There are still new Dams coming online in the next few years that would cover that easily... for BC at least. Jmho. Not an expert. Does the 19% include commercial or is that just personal vehicles? An 80,000 lb or more semi is going to chew up a lot more juice than a typical small EV. I would agree that over time it's still doable, but it's a a big process to not just generate that much more electricity but also distribute it. I live in the northwest US so I benefit a lot from hydro but I also don't see that as a very viable long term green energy source given the environmental concerns associated with it. I don't know. Its kind of vague. I doubt it includes heavy trucks. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49831525958_ba59f92eaf_c.jpg
Reisender 02/24/21 01:56pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

If we're going to transition ground transportation to electricity, we're going to need to generate a lot more of it and beef up the grid to handle the extra workload. It isn't simply a matter of adding charging stations. I have no idea how much fossil fuel goes into ground transportation or how that energy would translate to electricity but it's probably significant. I would also say that unless that extra electricity comes from green energy, I'm not sure we're netting out much benefit. Although I suppose there's some value in beginning the transition. On the BC Hydro website they indicate that if every personal vehicle in the province were to magically become electric overnight the grid load would increase by 19 percent. So space that out over a few decades and it’s not such a big deal. There are still new Dams coming online in the next few years that would cover that easily... for BC at least. Jmho. Not an expert.
Reisender 02/24/21 12:37pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

How long does it take to recharge an electric car with one of the fast chargers? If traveling across the Country, is recharging as fast as filling a fuel tank or is there significant down time to recharge? I also wonder what the cost of electricity will be when the States stop getting all the tax dollars they are now collecting from a gallon of gas or diesel. Will taxes imposed on electricity to make up that difference in revenue make our home electricity bill become so high that many won't be able to afford it? Many low income families get their electricity shut off frequently now. I can't imagine what it will be like for them in 2035. What will the cost of gas, diesel, propane and home heating oil be because of less demand? What about the Amish community? They don't use electricity and they won't be able to afford petroleum products. I'm not against making our planet a safer and healthier place but are proponents of ending fossil fuel use thinking everything through? Have we done everything we can to reduce emissions in vehicles so gas and diesel can still be used? Can’t answer most of those questions. But the first one I’ll take a shot at from from personal experience point of view. EV’s take longer to charge than filling a tank. At least with present technology. Different makes and models take different lengths of time. There is no simple answer. Generally speaking an 800 kilometers travel day takes us no longer or shorter than it did when we travelled the same trip with our Jeep Grand Cherokee. But we travel a little different. We still take two 10 or 15 minute pee/coffee breaks and a 20 minute lunch break. The only difference is we charge during those times. I can’t testify to longer days as we try to avoid anywhere over about 800 or so kilometers. This is in a Tesla model 3 AWD. We haven’t travelled long distances in other EV’s. so don’t know what that’s like. Hope that helps.
Reisender 02/23/21 08:11pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

... Plus electric vehicles are a fraction of the cost to operate... A fraction like 9 over 10! My registration is more, my insurance is more, fuel cost slightly cheaper, and no oil change at 7500 miles. That is not including the cost to upgrade electrical to have a charger in the garage. Probably depends where you live. My registration is the same. Supposed to go up buy 120 bucks in 2023 though. Probably to pay road taxes. My insurance is the same. Fuel cost is about a quarter. Upgrade was 350 bucks to put in a stove plug in the garage. . But for many they just use 120 volts for charging. But yah, it can vary from person to person. And yah, for a pickup with a bigger battery I would want the stove plug. There are some smokin deals on 2020 and even 2021 bolts right now. Brand new. 25000 and under. Cheers.
Reisender 02/23/21 12:36pm Tow Vehicles
RE: not sure where to post this.....

Do they make golf carts with lithium batteries? That might help with the weight.
Reisender 02/23/21 09:01am General RVing Issues
RE: Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

So low to middle income families will no longer be able to buy a new car. Chevy Bolts will be the prime choice unless you want to go All in on China with the little Kandi K27 for $20 grand. but with only a claimed range of 100 miles. Yah I suppose. But that is still 9 years away and a few companies already have 25000 dollar cars with good range on the drawing board. I’m sure the technology will change a lot by then. The most common EV’s sold are already between 31000 and 37000 bucks. Plus electric vehicles are a fraction of the cost to operate. Time will tell.
Reisender 02/23/21 08:41am Tow Vehicles
Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

This topic has been moved to another forum. You can read it here: 30208770
Reisender 02/23/21 08:15am General RVing Issues
Wonder if truck makers will start making 10001 # 1/2 tons.

Interesting read. Washington state, Any new vehicles under 10000 pound scale weight can not have a tail pipe. Proposed bill. https://electrek.co/2021/02/23/washington-state-advances-bill-to-ban-gas-cars-by-2030-one-upping-california/
Reisender 02/23/21 08:15am Tow Vehicles
RE: Ford EV F-150 battery source in jeopardy .

Welcome, Ford, to the club of insufficient batteries. Tesla and others have battled this for over a decade. And it's going to get worse, a lot worse. I think China and South Korea will be stepping up to the plate in a big way in the next two years. Even to the point that supply might outstrip demand in the next couple years. After that it’s anybodies guess. Toyota for the most part is sticking with hydrogen for the most part although they have some limited plans for a few BEV’s. and course they will continue with their hybrid plan. Volkswagen is going to have to get serious making their own batteries in bigger amounts if they want to stay on top. It’s going to be an interesting decade.
Reisender 02/21/21 01:20pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

New Tesla Model 2 = Game OVER for Gas https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50959766876_9972574c40_o.png Wont hapen any time soon Why make cheap Tesla when they cant meet demand for their expensive models? Want cheap get Chevy Bolt Yes. That is the elephant in the room. They haven't produced the base Model 3 they promised so why would they make this low margin car when they are a capacity with the higher profit vehicles. They need to keep perfecting the middle/higher level product and branch out to new markets later. Tesla did produce their base model for awhile. It didn’t sell well and for the extra 3000 bucks the plus model seemed like a worthwhile upgrade for many. At 36900 they’ll still sell a ton of cars and it’s actually pretty good bang for the buck. Jmho.
Reisender 02/20/21 07:50am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

The base M3 was available for the promised $35,000 for at least a limited time. Current base M3 is $37,990 in the US. The M2 is slated for the China market and could be a bit before it gets to the US. And just got dropped to 36900 yesterday.
Reisender 02/19/21 11:40am Tow Vehicles
RE: Ford Going All Electric in 2030 Too...

Kind of like liberal Presidents Yah that’s not political at all.
Reisender 02/19/21 08:37am Tow Vehicles
RE: Ford Going All Electric in 2030 Too...

:). Guess we’ll have to wait and see. We’ll meet back here in 13 years and 10 months...ish. 'Here' may not be a computer screen. Maybe by then we'll communicate by telepathy over Amazon, Google or whatever the future gives us :@ :). Lol.
Reisender 02/19/21 05:45am Tow Vehicles
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