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RE: Propane Tank Gauge,recomendations please

google propane and read on about its properties. Propanes boiling point is -44.3 f. At that temp there is no pressure at all, you could pour it out and carry it in a bucket. OH ive done that in Ontario at -50 f. Pressuse gauges are of no use, because at any given temp. they will show the pressure developed by the liquid as it boils to vapor at that temp. So at -43f it would show empty on a full bottle, yet at + 90f show full on an almost empty. .They cannot show the liquid level. , only float gauges can tell you the liquid level in a bottle. Motor homes have them that show 1/4-1/2 -3/4. Acommon issue with them is that if 80% is full, then they should read more like 1/3-2/3-3/3 which more closely is the liquid level. The hot or cold water test ( use one or the other depending on the ambient temp- hot weather use ice water, cool weather, hot water) poured down the side of the bottle then run your fingers down the bottle to feel the temp change will show you the liquid level in the bottle, as the water will heat or cool the metal only down to the liquid propane level. Stick on heat sensative strips are very good at this test. I have always left both valves open with the switchover valve pointed at one bottle, then kept an eye on the indicator. When it turns red, that one is empty and it has auto switched to the alternate. So then you switch the indicator to the alternate indicator turns green, then go fill the. primary, put it in open it, then the alternate is now the primary until it empties and switches to the first.
SDcampowneroperator 11/11/19 06:34pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Building RV park near McKinney TX, what would you want most?

My wife and I are developing a new RV park between McKinney and Anna (15 minutes north of McKinney), TX along highway 75. We'll have some monthly spots and some daily/weekly spots available. That last statement has me thinking your primary clientele will (most likely) be construction workers for the commercial and road projects in NTX. Take a look at Sunrise RV Park in Texarkana as an example of how they handled that. A small area up front (2 rows) for transient, the rest for the long-term stays.I think the family developing the park should take a trip or two spending time in parks that are occupied primarily by long term stays by construction workers, tradesman, lower income migrant workers and the like. That business is polar opposite of running a park for the vacation, retirement and recreation crowd. Furthermore, once you have taken on long term stays the laws will become much less favorable to the park owner and much more favorable to the tenant. The time frame varies from state to state, but at some point those renters will fall under tenant/landlord laws and no longer be subjected to innkeeper laws. Once that happens, the park owners will no longer be able to enforce many policies such as quiet hours, site occupancy, certain site keeping rules, certain pet policies and many others. The park's ability to evict a problem will be curtailed and will require court action. The RVs will likely be considered mobile homes and the procedures for eviction will be even more restricted than evicting someone from a stick built home. Knowing the area where the intend to develop this park (assuming it truly is along US 75) I am reasonably sure the land costs alone are significant enough to warrant hiring a professional park consultant. A consultant would not only assist in the design of the park, possibly preventing a costly error, but would be able to assure the park would be in compliance with the myriad of laws the park will fall under (ADA, environmental, zoning, health, fire etc.). They would also offer their opinion on the risks and advantages associated with things like long term stays. Better to spend $10,000 upfront than incur multiple times that amount in legal fees, fines and change orders in construction down the road.. Excellent advice. I recommend Gorin + Cohen Consulting Group. Also Texas Association of Campground Owners. (Taco)
SDcampowneroperator 10/27/19 09:06am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Building RV park near McKinney TX, what would you want most?

Well. so much to dwell on in this thread. Lets dwell on the OPs questions, as he asked, you replied, and whats possible. 1- space. larger , sites, utilities spaced mid site. 2 -level concrete pads with mature landscaping that does not interfere with satellite 3- an adults section. 4- a families section 5- unlimited wifi 6- A pets section 7- a no pets section 8 - All pull thru. Ugh that means no sites with a rear window view., many can drive , prefer a back in for the privacy and rear view. This is a sampling of what travelers want. Full Timers, weekenders, vacationers. There is no way a single camp can suit everyone, so its why many camps have chosen to serve a single clientele, Many camps like ours mix it up, do our best at serving unique requests. But the trees dont move. The pool is where it is, some cell phones dont work in lower valley sections. Over 55, 10 year rule, clothing optional,. Every option under law is the operators choice as is the limits they can provide. Want the perfect campground? Whats in your eyes, go build it. Good Luck. The land does not exist . For us in the industry we do our best with what the infrastructure and clientele requests we can provide.
SDcampowneroperator 10/24/19 09:02pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Trouble with California

your Rv is your home, wheather for a day or for life. Certainly we all have the constitutional right to deny inspection or entry without a warrant. Within the USA Key to inspections, in cross border, state or to nations is to always have the answer on the tip of your tongue, a hesitation raises the officers suspicion, Rather than confront with the blatant, ask for what reason? diffuse before confrontation. State laws of importation do not work. bugs and diseases do not know borders.Read about emerald ash borer
SDcampowneroperator 10/21/19 08:44pm General RVing Issues
RE: Different kind of Jack-knife

Your hich should not have allowed more that a 7 deg. side to side tilt. If you have the minimum recommended 6" bed to overhead clearance, the hich would limit the roll between tow and towed, making the truck tilt with the trailer when that limit is reached. Should you also encounter a high point vs a low point dip, the risk of bed to trlr. increases. Raise the trucks 5er hitch, or lower the pin box to give better clearance.
SDcampowneroperator 10/17/19 09:18pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Water Heater Problems

Whats your altidude? Altitude makes a difference in % of air to gas mix, so a lean or rich mix will cause mis fire. When it does light what does it sound like look like? A roaring flame is lean, lazy lean, quiet, yellowish. Clean blue with slight rumble is proper. We have had to adjust the air intake (with tape over a bit of the intake) at low altitude to stop flame out from low mixture.
SDcampowneroperator 09/24/19 08:24pm Toy Haulers
RE: So Dakota Domicile

Call the county treasurer, for tax rates amd registration fees. SD does charge a balance on sales tax, IF you paid a lesser rate in the other jurusdiction. A little search will answer your questions.
SDcampowneroperator 09/23/19 05:37pm Full-time RVing
RE: Propane tank recertification

Internal inspection is not necessary, as there is no oxygen or water, hence no corrosion. I have 100 # bottles made in the 1940s, 20-30# s made in the 80s. Its the external appearance of the bottle and valve requirement that determines refill. Old bottles can be recertified every 5 years forever if they appear sound and have proper valves.
SDcampowneroperator 09/18/19 07:49pm Truck Campers
RE: School me in public parks camping...

Mickey, you are smart to make sure that your camping style is in synch with your wife's needs and preferences! I'd rather be in an RV park with my wife than in the boonies by myself. ;) Years ago, I had a similar situation -- my wife was sure we needed full hookups. But I persuaded her to try boondocking for just a couple of days on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. We brought extra water, a small generator in case we needed it (we didn't), and we agreed to take Navy showers every evening -- rinse, water off, soap, rinse. Bingo!! She was hooked. The silence and the privacy and the stars were priceless. Plus, unlike an RV park or a campground, the bathroom is exclusively ours, and we keep it nice and clean. That was 12 years ago, and we now search out boondocking whenever possible. But start slow -- a couple of days at a time. Don't try a week of boondocking (or even dry camping) until you are both comfortable with the idea. Once you have the hang of it, this method of camping will give you a lot more flexibility, and you can camp in some really remote and beautiful places. Good luck!! BINGO! All rvs have tank and power capacities for at least acouple of days off grid. 14days is our threshold. Persuade, convince, that your unit has capability. You can shower, do all on a lot less water and power than you thought. Welcome to rv world, where you are self contained only limited by the capacities of your unit and your conservation of them. Give limited service or off grid a try!
SDcampowneroperator 09/13/19 10:15pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: salvage dealers

Part out the usefull stuff your self, take the shell to the landfill or recycler. Sell the working parts.
SDcampowneroperator 09/12/19 06:13pm Truck Campers
RE: School me in public parks camping...

We learned long ago to not be concerned with hookups in public parks. If the issue is hookups, we chose our unit with high capacities, or figureded out a way to maximize them such as more batteries, genny, waste tote, inverter. You must add, NO change your habits to conserve your power and water useage. Sure, we own and operate a commercial camp with all the frills you needed for the family, Thank you for patronizing private camps when it was your need. Now its time to cut or at least slim the cord and experience the many other offerings of outdoor hospitality travel. Most public parks do not offer full amenity, limit length of stay, may require purchase of a pass in addition to site fee, and many other variables. Might not be less costly or up your alley if your unit does not have larger tanks, one battery, etc. The world is now your oyster IF you are the more adventurous and proactive type. Look at the websites. Call for availibility. Best yet, head out to the national forests and BLM lands, any federal land, find a spot. You can stay 14 days free. Check it out come to us to refill, dump, launder and shower, perhaps be our guest for a pampered night before or after the experience.
SDcampowneroperator 09/11/19 05:58pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Late check out

Early arrival and late checkout are only an issue in our outdooor hospitality industry. Hoteliers forbid or charge for early, late check out, as it adds to staff and costs, as it does to us. Hotels have only 2 options, 1 bed or 2. Camps have many more variables, as well as striving to suit your wishes. Where the early/ late becomes an issue is when that prime site is reserved. If all our sites were like a hotel or wally world all the same with hookups, arranging would be easy. Wear our shoes for a day, Most of the hotel comparison is flat out wrong. We have frequently stayed late/checked in early (after politely asking) and 9 out of 10 times, there is no cost (sometimes even though officially there is a fee, they tell us not to worry about it). Thank you and happytorv for your comments. They prove our business model is to serve special requests for sites with special features. I simplified the hotel/ rv park comparison as an ask for understanding. Rv parks cannot begin to equate the simplified view hotels may offer due to the acreage, lay of the land, type of unit. If parks were like a hotel, or parking lot with hookups where all are equal then you are right in your comparison. Where a 'Campground' differs is in site size,type, services, location to amenity, shade trees or not, many other variables. A late check out, an early arrival with so many variables is always a challenge to accommodate . rvers have many more wishes than a hotel guest. Do any hotel guests have satellite tv on the roof so no trees to the south? Insist on shade? Again, I ask come wear our shoes, then judge. Max Hotels typically have many room types beyond just the number of beds. - Ocean view, pool view or dumpster view - Balcony or not - Various suite types. - High vs low floors. - Etc... Ultimately, we can only request and if we are told "no", we must abide by that...but if it's a blanket "no" when it's clear there are plenty of open sites and will have zero impact on your costs/staffing and you can't articulate why, you just made it more likely that I don't use your campground/hotel next time around.
SDcampowneroperator 09/07/19 08:27pm RV Lifestyle
RE: SD Online drivers license renewal you may renew online 180 days before or 30 days after expiry sdcl 32-12-43.1
SDcampowneroperator 09/06/19 07:12pm Full-time RVing
RE: Late check out

Early arrival and late checkout are only an issue in our outdooor hospitality industry. Hoteliers forbid or charge for early, late check out, as it adds to staff and costs, as it does to us. Hotels have only 2 options, 1 bed or 2. Camps have many more variables, as well as striving to suit your wishes. Where the early/ late becomes an issue is when that prime site is reserved. If all our sites were like a hotel or wally world all the same with hookups, arranging would be easy. Wear our shoes for a day,
SDcampowneroperator 09/03/19 08:03pm RV Lifestyle
RE: No Propane Flow to RV Appliances

OPD equipped bottles have a surge leak flow detector in their valves. When opening the valves on of he bottles , do it very slowly the first 1/2 turn then open all the way.
SDcampowneroperator 08/29/19 06:55pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Using the black water tank as a second grey water tank

We had a TT with 2 40 gal. grey, 1 30 gal. black. Of course the shower tank filled before the galley or black. To extend our stays I made up a 4th temporary valve placed on the dump, then opened the 3 tank valves which allowed equalization in them so the entire 110 gal. capacity was used. Mixing the grey and black actually helps on dumping. The extra water in the black helped flush the solids. Do it.
SDcampowneroperator 08/29/19 06:44pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Relocation / Temp living in RV

research the sale market in where you may want to sell, then look at where you could buy. A toy hauler in NC or Pa. aint worth much resale in snowbird Fl. What sells in Fl. for premium may be a bargain in other places.
SDcampowneroperator 08/25/19 08:08pm Full-time RVing
RE: OK --- Guilty!

1 oz. of bleach to 50 gal. of black water will neutralize the waste. More bleach can cause serious harm to the digestive systems of wastewater treatment systems. Please use bleach sparingly on non community waste water systems. It kills the bacteria that treat the waste.
SDcampowneroperator 08/25/19 07:52pm General RVing Issues
RE: Advice for newbies

If you are a boondock or gov.t park lover, not a rv park resident, consider your capacities. Water,waste, power. many units do not address more than a short time ( overnight) without essentials. In our Carriage 5er, we can do 2 weeks water and waste with a genny a few hours a day.
SDcampowneroperator 08/21/19 07:05pm Beginning RVing
RE: Travel Trailer vs. Motorhome (my situation)

For often moves ,access to comforts, MH. Time to hook up/ unhook towed, then Coach, longer and more troublesome than a trailer. You first have to have a level place to disconnect the towed, then still have to hook up the coach on site. Potentially costly tow system . Pros, smaller cheaper car, more campsite availibility, easier parking. Cons . Larger depreciation, less storage, complexity, as it is a complete home and vehicle in one package. One thing breaks down, you are stranded. For depreciation truck / trailer wins as better, has advantages of lesser cost, better resale, more storage and flexibility. Something goes wrong with either, you still have one to find an option for the night. Cons is maneuverability, large tow vehicle for daily driver. Backing an articulted unit, longer sites for disconnected units. I could explain more, it would take a book.
SDcampowneroperator 07/15/19 07:14pm Beginning RVing
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