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RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

So to summarize: Brake Applications: Ram: 0 (Auto Brake assisted-unproven theory by Ford fanboys) Ford: 5 GMC: 9 Time: Ford: 10:20 Ram: 11:32 GMC: 11:47 MPG: Ram: 2.5 mpg Ford: 2.4 mpg GMC: 2.4 mpg There, I fixed it for you. I would still love to see how these trucks do at 80F or even 100F. I agree with testing at 80F or 100F but I doubt the order of performance would change. And now your ok with reporting the computer mpg when you have always reported major errors with these systems. TFL reported the brakes were part of the braking system so if you don't like that or agree with it go debate it with them like you do the Australian. I feel the result will be similar to last years test if it were 80F. I don't I have stated before that I don't think the computer is accurate with a lot of stop/starts of the engine. The more start/stops are in the tank average, the more it is off based on my experiences. I have also said it is fairly accurate going from point A to B without turning off the engine. I like to report all the data(good or bad) and let the people decide for themselves instead of only giving them part of the information because of some bias. Mr Truck has reported many inconstancies before and I doubt this would be the last. After all, he also stated the truck/trailer's brake lights were on and yet they were not. Unproven theory by a Ram fanboy Just as a reminder that the previous 2020 Ram and GM trucks Ike pull had 2 brake applications with less weight. With 30k lbs the GM had more brake applications but the Ram had less. Give me a brake... :W Yeah, because they did not have it on auto like I have been saying for the past two years. Auto works better if the truck is doing the shifting. Full mode is best used if you are shifting manually which they do not do. I think the Powerstroke will get heat soaked at 80F and would have to cut power just like it looked like it did last year. Also,it is not an unproven theory that they the brake lights were not one. It shows it in the video when they were behind the truck. And it is not a theory that Mr truck has been wrong before.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 04:44pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

I was wondering the same thing, it’s like the EB just gets shut off. Seems like it would be tough on some part of the drivetrain. Also if it just shutoff what’s holding the truck back from accelerating if not the brakes? I find it interesting that neither of them point out how cool that brake hp indication is. Engine braking at 3,500 rpm is what is trying to hold the truck back when it is off. It cannot with engine braking alone so it starts to gain speed past 35 mph and then the exhaust brake kicks back on to slow it back down to 35 mph then cuts off again. As you can see at of the video 5:56 of the video. Exhaust brake is off, it starts to get to 37 mph and then it kicks back on to slow it down to 35 again. You can hear the exhaust brake. It's remaining constant. The exhaust brake/engine brake is really the same thing. While the engine is being driven from flywheel it is braking. The degree of braking varies with the speed of the engine and the amount of restriction in the exhaust. The exhaust brake is simply the turbo adjusting to create more restriction in the exhaust. It's like if you had an engine driving a positive displacement water pump and you had an adjustable nozzle on the end of the water hose. You could change the power demand on the engine by opening and closing the nozzle. The engine on these trucks is acting as an air pump and the adjustable turbo is the nozzle. I'm not saying the exhaust brake is switching on and off when the gauge is displaying a value. I'm suggesting the wheel brakes are being applied to help with braking during the time that the gauge is displaying a value. I don't here the exhaust brake being on constantly. In fact, I hardly hear it when it comes on in that video. I hear the normal sound of a Cummins(which is noticeably loader than the other trucks) at a high rpm, but I don't hear an exhaust brake being on the whole time.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 01:37pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

I was wondering the same thing, it’s like the EB just gets shut off. Seems like it would be tough on some part of the drivetrain. Also if it just shutoff what’s holding the truck back from accelerating if not the brakes? I find it interesting that neither of them point out how cool that brake hp indication is. Engine braking at 3,500 rpm is what is trying to hold the truck back when it is off. It cannot with engine braking alone so it starts to gain speed past 35 mph and then the exhaust brake kicks back on to slow it back down to 35 mph then cuts off again. As you can see at of the video 5:56 of the video. Exhaust brake is off, it starts to get to 37 mph and then it kicks back on to slow it down to 35 again.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 12:41pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2013 Ram Diesel Cooling System Service

"Nope, it is made by Fleetguard(aka Cummins Filtration)." Good to know, thanks! Yep, they have been making coolant and other cooling system chemicals since 1995.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 12:29pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

So to summarize: Brake Applications: Ram: 0 (Auto Brake assisted-unproven theory by Ford fanboys) Ford: 5 GMC: 9 Time: Ford: 10:20 Ram: 11:32 GMC: 11:47 MPG: Ram: 2.5 mpg Ford: 2.4 mpg GMC: 2.4 mpg There, I fixed it for you. I would still love to see how these trucks do at 80F or even 100F. I agree with testing at 80F or 100F but I doubt the order of performance would change. And now your ok with reporting the computer mpg when you have always reported major errors with these systems. TFL reported the brakes were part of the braking system so if you don't like that or agree with it go debate it with them like you do the Australian. I feel the result will be similar to last years test if it were 80F. I have stated before that I don't think the computer is accurate with a lot of stop/starts of the engine. The more start/stops are in the tank average, the more it is off based on my experiences. I have also said it is fairly accurate going from point A to B without turning off the engine. I like to report all the data(good or bad) and let the people decide for themselves instead of only giving them part of the information because of some bias. Mr Truck has reported many inconstancies before and I doubt this would be the last. After all, he also stated the truck/trailer's brake lights were on and yet they were not.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 11:58am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2013 Ram Diesel Cooling System Service

I would not stick with Mopar coolant. Mopar does not make their own coolant and they source it from various other coolant manufacturers depending on the vehicle and engine. They just take another brand's coolant(Xerex, Prestone,Fleetguard), slap Mopar on it and mark it up another 50% similar to how they sell a Cummins water pump for $200 yet you can buy the same part in the same box from Cummins for less than $75. Fleetguard(aka Cummins) makes a great coolant that that is much cheaper than the Mopar and is the same. I'm pretty sure Fleetguard (aka Cummins) slaps a sticker on their coolant bottle as well. Nope, it is made by Fleetguard(aka Cummins Filtration).
ShinerBock 02/21/20 11:35am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

So to summarize: Brake Applications: Ram: 0 (Auto Brake assisted-unproven theory by Ford fanboys) Ford: 5 GMC: 9 Time: Ford: 10:20 Ram: 11:32 GMC: 11:47 MPG: Ram: 2.5 mpg Ford: 2.4 mpg GMC: 2.4 mpg There, I fixed it for you. I would still love to see how these trucks do at 80F or even 100F.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 09:12am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2013 Ram Diesel Cooling System Service

I would not stick with Mopar coolant. Mopar does not make their own coolant and they source it from various other coolant manufacturers depending on the vehicle and engine. They just take another brand's coolant(Xerex, Prestone,Fleetguard), slap Mopar on it and mark it up another 50% similar to how they sell a Cummins water pump for $200 yet you can buy the same part in the same box from Cummins for less than $75. Fleetguard(aka Cummins) makes a great coolant that that is much cheaper than the Mopar and is the same.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 08:45am Tow Vehicles
RE: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update.

Here's a video from Headlight Revolution on installing LED lights. As you can see later in the video at around 3:47 the quality of the beam pattern is very similar to a standard bulb. If installed and adjusted properly the light quality is excellent while not blinding others. Link And yet none of them are and they end up blinding others on the road all because they don't want to spend another $400-$600 on projectors.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 07:09am Tow Vehicles
RE: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update.

I find it very difficult to understand how someone can spend $40k on a new truck yet cannot spend an additional $400-$600 on aftermarket projector headlight assemblies so they can run brighter LED/HID bulbs without blinding other drivers. You are basically telling others on the road that you do not have enough respect for them and they have to suffer being blinded just because you are too cheap and do not want to spend the extra money to do it right.
ShinerBock 02/21/20 06:29am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

^^^ So, based on my observation I would say the wheel brakes were largely what was holding the truck back. The computer recognized the need for a downshift to produce more exhaust braking. After the downshift the back pressure and rpm increased to produce the maximum level of exhaust braking the engine was able to do .... the wheel brakes made up the difference. Nice theory, but owning a Cummins and having been on that road I would have to disagree. You've been on that road with 30,000 lbs in tow? No, and neither have you. Although I have been on that road to know it is not 7% grade the whole way through and it varies between 3% and 7%. I have also driven/towed the 6.7L Cummins in other medium duty vehicles both when I worked at Cummins and at my current employer. None of them use the vehicles brakes and yet they apply the same kind of exhaust braking that my truck does at max going down grades when towing.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 06:01pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

^^^ So, based on my observation I would say the wheel brakes were largely what was holding the truck back. The computer recognized the need for a downshift to produce more exhaust braking. After the downshift the back pressure and rpm increased to produce the maximum level of exhaust braking the engine was able to do .... the wheel brakes made up the difference. Nice theory, but owning a Cummins and having been on that road I would have to disagree.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 03:15pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update.

LED or HID in a housing made for halogen lights are illegal in all states, and enforcement is sporadic. If you want to put these kind of lights on your truck and stay legal then you would need to spend the coin and buy housing made for these types of bulbs(i.e. projectors) that do not scatter the beam. I'd really like to read this law from a legitimate source, not "the internet said". I work for a police department...it's not enforced at all here. I've also traveled at night in Kansas, Colorado, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Arkansas and passed many police vehicles and I've haven't been pulled over. As I said, enforcement is sporadic and most new officers do not even know it is illegal. As far as your state, somewhere in the transportation code it will state that a vehicle has to abide by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 49 CFR Part 571 which is what makes putting a HID or LED bulb in a housing made for halogen illegal. You can put an LED bulb in an LED housing or HID bulb in an HID housing, but neither in a halogen only housing. CFR 49 571.108 Not to mention that it is a [email protected]$$ thing to do. I understand you need to see, but so do others on the road. I don't think they should be blinded just because someone is too cheap to do it right. If someone can afford a $40+k truck, then they can afford to spend the extra coin on the correct housing for the bulbs they want.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 03:06pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

^^^ Exactly so if the turbo was holding enough back pressure to hold the load back at 2000 rpm (which is impossible), the engine would have been generating 175 reverse HP. Now, if, the transmission downshifts from 3rd to 2nd, the rpm would increase from 2000 to 3000 rpm. So even if the back pressure remained unchanged (The only reason the back pressure would remain unchanged would be if the valves started floating otherwise the back pressure would increase dramatically because the engine would be trying to push 1.5 x as much air past the turbo) the reverse HP generated would go from 175 to 262 reverse HP. So if 175 reverse HP was holding back about right and now all of a sudden the engine is holding back 1.5 times as much the truck would quickly start over braking while the turbo adjusted to relieve back pressure. (and because the increase in engine rpm would not only cause 1.5 x as much air to be compressed it would also be compressing that air to a higher value ( ie the back pressure would go up ) so the reverse HP would rise even more than 1.5x ) So based on the behavior of the truck, it is my opinion that the exhaust brake was not the only thing holding the truck back. But it wasn't hold the truck back at 2,000 rpm and was gaining speed which is why it downshifted to a higher that not only allowed it to hold speed, but also slowed it down. After it slowed it down to desired speed then the turbo vanes probably actuated between 95-99% to keep it there. Also, the IKE is not 7% all the way down. There are sections that are as low as 3%. Especially the section coming right out of the tunnel. It is steep when you first come out and the decreases the grade for a short distance.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 02:29pm Tow Vehicles
RE: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update.

LED or HID in a housing made for halogen lights are illegal in all states, and enforcement is sporadic. If you want to put these kind of lights on your truck and stay legal then you would need to spend the coin and buy housing made for these types of bulbs(i.e. projectors) that do not scatter the beam.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 02:18pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

"The computer is applying the wheel brakes both truck and trailer." How do you know if the brakes were coming on the trailer on this test? Maybe the engine was doing what it needed with the trans? Right past the 2 minute mark they say that it is using the truck and trailer brakes and also making the lights come on both. The fact that they state the brakes are being controlled by the computer isn't enough evidence on ts own, as Mr Truck is full of $#!^ half the time but the way truck behaves while they are asking "will it downshift?" is more evidence. Based on their comments and on the video the truck is holding the load back prior to the downshift. If it could hold that kind of weight back prior to the downshift (at about 2000 rpm) strictly via exhaust brake then the downshift would have cause sudden over braking while the turbo adjusted. The fact that the speed before and after the shift is so precise is strong evidence of wheel brakes being utilized. Additionally, to hold 39000 lbs back on a 7% grade would require 377 lbft of torque on the crankshaft in second gear. There is no way an exhaust brake could generate enough back pressure to generate that kind of torque.... the exhaust valves would float before the required back pressure could be reached. The smooth engagement was probably from the TC unlocking and locking again between shifts. As for as turbo adjustment, there should not be one. Back when I had my stock turbo, I monitored the turbo vane position. When the exhaust brake was applied, it would close the vanes from 95% to 99% in auto depending on the braking needs. In full mode or at max braking in auto(like in the test) it would stay at 99% closed even between shifts. There was no turbo vane adjustment going into a lower gear and it was still a smooth engagement. It just got stronger the higher the rpm(i.e. downshifting).
ShinerBock 02/20/20 01:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

TOO funny, the AISIN is in many Isuzu's just for one. A specific model # is what you are arguing. The AISIN in the RAM has variables of the same. If you want to argue specific numbers that is fine. When I say TRUE The fact is the CUMMINS and AISINs are used in other medium Duty applications besides RAM. I am not going to keep this going and don't want to clog this thread us. Yes, other Aisin transmission models just like other Allison transmission models are in many medium duty applications. But what other application is the Aisin AS69RC specifically in? Duramax and Allison are used in medium duty applications just like the Powerstroke and TorqShift so going by that standard, all three are "true medium duty engine/trans".
ShinerBock 02/20/20 09:47am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

True Medium Duty engine and transmission? I know the Cummins is available in the many medium duty applications, but what other applications is the AS69RC in? There are other models of Aisin transmissions used in medium duty trucks just like there are other models of Allison's, but what other medium duty truck is the AS69RC specifically used in outside of Ram? I also know that the Powerstroke and its transmission is available from class 2b all the way up to Class 8 trucks(yes there is a class 8 F750). In fact, both the 6R140 and 10R140 were both specifically made for these ligh-medium-heavy duty truck classes. I think we are at the point where we can call the pick up truck applications of these engines/transmissions true medium duty applications. That was my point. What is the point in calling out one as a "true" medium duty engine/transmission when they all are?
ShinerBock 02/20/20 09:38am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

True Medium Duty engine and transmission? I know the Cummins is available in the many medium duty applications, but what other applications is the AS69RC in? There are other models of Aisin transmissions used in medium duty trucks just like there are other models of Allison's, but what other medium duty truck is the AS69RC specifically used in outside of Ram? I also know that the Powerstroke and its transmission is available from class 2b all the way up to Class 8 trucks(yes there is a class 8 F750). In fact, both the 6R140 and 10R140 were both specifically made for these ligh-medium-heavy duty truck classes.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 08:55am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2020 Cummins IKE pull

Finally they run the exhaust brake in auto! Like have said multiple times, the Cummins exhaust brake is more powerful in auto downhill than in full if you are letting the truck do the shifting. If you are shifting yourself, then full mode is the way to go. Time up the hill did a little better than I expected. This truck needs more gears. Did they have tire chains on the tires? They mentioned it in the video, but I could not see them on any tires. I don't recall them mentioning tire chains on the other runs. So Ford won the uphill time while Ram won the brake applications and fuel economy. I still think they should do the test at 80F. I bet it would be a completely different outcome. I think the Ram applies the wheel brakes to maintain a more precise speed where as the Ford's computer allows more acceleration before applying the wheel brakes. I'm sure if they had not applied the brakes on the Ford the computer would have. As far as fuel economy goes it was closer than you think. The Ford had to be producing 404 Hp for the 620 seconds it pulled where as the Ram was only producing 352 Hp for the 993 seconds it pulled. If the trucks both performed with the exact same efficiency the Ram should have used 3% less fuel. (The 3% more work the Ford did is do to the exponencially higher drag at 46 mph vs the Ram's speed of 41 mph) Good points, just as I think that if this test was at 80F instead of 20F then it would have a different outcome. However, these are all assumptions until it is actually proven.
ShinerBock 02/20/20 07:55am Tow Vehicles
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