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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
I love to see hypocracy in action.
Half those states with super low vehicle tax rates are welfare states, where they could not support themselves without the funds "left" states dole out to them in the form of federal funds. While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....
I meant the OP. Benefiting from the higher paying jobs in California while bashing it. Shelling out $60,000+ on a toy and whining about the $750 registration. And so on.
Open mouth. Insert foot. We paid 16k not 60k. Our cars are about $130, and our previous motorhome was too so you know what you can do with your ignorant comment. Did I ever use the word socialism? I think the only person using that word is you. You could benefit from the advice that it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool rather than to open it and prove it. Step off my thread!
As I have never used the word socialism, you should follow your own comments.
All you are doing is bashing. You have not provided any information on the fee breakdown, etc. If you really think it is out of line, then check with the DMV. Maybe they calculated on an incorrect purchase price. But you'd rather just whine about the politics.
You're a special kind of moron. This is a direct quote from you upthread.
While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....
You call it whining as if it a complaint with no merit. I'll bet when the homeless start deficating in your yard and vandalize your property you'll "whine " too.
Now please, before you further demonstrate your defective intellect GFY.
Your reading skills suggest you fit your accusation. It was jdc1 who used the word socialism not me.
No I don't whine about things. I put my energy into figuring out WHY something happens and if it is not right, correcting it. Whining is uselss.
You're the one who used the word whining. Unfortunately the vast majority of the state are left wing idiots like you. We tried to recall the dictator Newsom but even if we were to win with the numbers the fix was in. Putting energy into and figuring out why something is wrong is easy. We KNOW what is wrong. Correcting it? That isn't happening. The corruption of the power elite and the brainwashing of people like you is too far entrenched. Now I'm done wasting time with you.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 03:44pm |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
I love to see hypocracy in action.
Half those states with super low vehicle tax rates are welfare states, where they could not support themselves without the funds "left" states dole out to them in the form of federal funds. While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....
I meant the OP. Benefiting from the higher paying jobs in California while bashing it. Shelling out $60,000+ on a toy and whining about the $750 registration. And so on.
Open mouth. Insert foot. We paid 16k not 60k. Our cars are about $130, and our previous motorhome was too so you know what you can do with your ignorant comment. Did I ever use the word socialism? I think the only person using that word is you. You could benefit from the advice that it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool rather than to open it and prove it. Step off my thread!
As I have never used the word socialism, you should follow your own comments.
All you are doing is bashing. You have not provided any information on the fee breakdown, etc. If you really think it is out of line, then check with the DMV. Maybe they calculated on an incorrect purchase price. But you'd rather just whine about the politics.
You're a special kind of moron. This is a direct quote from you upthread.
While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....
You call it whining as if it a complaint with no merit. I'll bet when the homeless start deficating in your yard and vandalize your property you'll "whine " too.
Now please, before you further demonstrate your defective intellect GFY.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 03:23pm |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Teleman, before throwing a hissy fit about your CA registration fee, you should have checked to see what your neighbors are paying. If not mistaken, NV is about 2% of purchase price/value and AZ is about 1.85%. When I moved to AZ four years ago my registration fees almost doubled. I know it's fashionable for some of you in this forum to bash CA every time you have a chance, but unless registration fees have gone up considerably in the last four years, CA's fees are lower than in some other states.
A) they have gone up considerably, and B) what is 2% of $16k? That's what we paid for our motorhome. Another person with foolish assumptions. Furthermore California deserves it's bashing. Have you visited San Francisco lately? People urinating, defecating, and masturbating in the street. People walking in the stores and loading up bags of merchandise and just walking out with no consequences. Homeless camps the size of small cities in some areas. It looks like a war zone. Our forests are burning up because the radical environmentalists in charge don't allow proper forest management. PG&E has paid off the past two governors and has gotten away with not improving their infrastructure and they cause at least one huge fire a year lately. I could go on and on. It has nothing to do with being fashionable. It has to do with a failed ideology that is infected half of the population of this country and wherever they hold complete power is a disaster.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 03:02pm |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
I love to see hypocracy in action.
Half those states with super low vehicle tax rates are welfare states, where they could not support themselves without the funds "left" states dole out to them in the form of federal funds. While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....
I meant the OP. Benefiting from the higher paying jobs in California while bashing it. Shelling out $60,000+ on a toy and whining about the $750 registration. And so on.
Open mouth. Insert foot. We paid 16k not 60k. Our cars are about $130, and our previous motorhome was too so you know what you can do with your ignorant comment. Did I ever use the word socialism? I think the only person using that word is you. You could benefit from the advice that it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool rather than to open it and prove it. Step off my thread!
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Teleman
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09/24/21 02:57pm |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
We've been in this house for 12 years. Our property taxes go up as the house appreciates in value. Anything we "save" in property taxes is over compensated for in sales tax, the cost of fuel, income tax, and a million other ways the state government can reach into our wallet.
Under Prop 13, assessment increases are capped at 2%, and the SF Bay area has exceeded that rate significantly. You'd be paying far more property tax on your house if not for prop 13.
They are trying to pass a law taxing us for MILEAGE! We must pay for the privilege of each mile driven.
If road taxes are meant to pay for road wear, then mileage (with a weight multiplier) is a fair way to do that -- gas tax is no longer a proxy for miles driven since gas mileage differs so widely among vehicles and EV's don't buy gas at all.
There's not much point in complaining about taxes in the area that you chose to live in. No one lives in California because of its low cost of living.
If you think those taxes are going to go to roads you're delusional. I know about Prop 13. It's the only thing allowing the dwindling middle class to remain. Your attempt to justify a corrupt, bloated, wasteful, and entitled state government is a waste of time to those of us who see it for what it really is.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 12:16pm |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
So tell me what you gas tax is!
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.
You may as well get used to it, under the current valuation to registration charges, in four or five years it will go down to about $600.
For the first time, Californians have the opportunity to pay more for vehicle registration than many pay for insurance! Aparently the residents like it, 66% just voted to keep the administration in dictatorship.
You should enjoy your gas prices, it is only $7 a gallon close to you, coming to your neighborhood soon.
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"this has to be the worst governed state in the union"
You are just figuring this out now?
We are paying $4.15 for regular, cash. It was $2.89 in January.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 11:43am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
I suspect that most of it is the VLF (i.e. a property tax for vehicles), plus a hefty transportation improvement fee. The VLF should reduce each year as the vehicle ages.
Thar is correct. Do other states have a property tax for vehicles? Transportation improvement fee? Lol. When we crossed from Nevade into California on I80 recently there was no need for a sign to let us know we had entered CA as the smooth well maintained road ended and the rough surfaces of the richest state of the union made their presence felt immidiately.
Some other states do have property tax for vehicles, some charge it as a tax paid to the assessor's office, some bundle it into registration like California. But if you've lived in the same house in Clayton for 20 years, you're likely saving far more in property tax on the house than you're paying on the RV.
We've been in this house for 12 years. Our property taxes go up as the house appreciates in value. Anything we "save" in property taxes is over compensated for in sales tax, the cost of fuel, income tax, and a million other ways the state government can reach into our wallet. They are trying to pass a law taxing us for MILEAGE! We must pay for the privilege of each mile driven.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 11:09am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Come to Louisiana where $90 will get you a permanent registration for your RV.
People like to blame politicians for the cost of living but in reality they are responsible for their own situation.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 08:13am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Come to Louisiana where $90 will get you a permanent registration for your RV.
People like to blame politicians for the cost of living but in reality they are responsible for their own situation.
I don't vote for these politicians or these policies, but the majority of the state's citizens do unfortunately.If cost of living was the only factor we would move to a state like yours, but at this point the benefits, climate, geography, a great house in a good neighborhood with a pool and a music studio for me, good jobs, etc, outweigh the negative factors. But if they lock us down again all bets are off...
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Teleman
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09/24/21 08:11am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
I guess I’m skating by on my US$46 ($60 CDN) a year.
I imagine some of our states have similar rates. You guys have your issues though. I have cousins in Canada and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 05:51am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.
You may as well get used to it, under the current valuation to registration charges, in four or five years it will go down to about $600.
For the first time, Californians have the opportunity to pay more for vehicle registration than many pay for insurance! Aparently the residents like it, 66% just voted to keep the administration in dictatorship.
You should enjoy your gas prices, it is only $7 a gallon close to you, coming to your neighborhood soon.
Click Here
"this has to be the worst governed state in the union"
You are just figuring this out now?
No we've known it for a long time. This is just a new, fresh insult that caught us by surprise as the last motorhome we bought was in 2004.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 05:46am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.
I paid about $500/year here in Michigan before the RV was totaled. (Now I pay rent on an apartment... actually it was time to change)
I once priced moving to las vegas (when my daughter lived there) then, after changing underwear,,, I remained in Michigan.
775 is not outrageous for a class A at all.
Michigan is another poorly administered state. Your governor and mine would make quite a couple. They both like to make rules for the peons that they needn't follow being the entitled aristocratic overlords they imagine themselves to be. My Class A, while in excellent condition (and we love it!), cost us far less than a new car. Maybe one that was 100k would see a $775 registration in a normal state.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 05:43am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
There were additional fees added to the registration renewals in 2017 BEFORE Newsom came into office. Those plus the fact that you just bought the RV will make your renewal on this RV much higher than an RV you bought years before. Nothing to do with this " governor".
You're right. That was the previous governor who was almost as bad.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 05:34am |
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RE: Outrageous CA registration fee!
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.
What does the fee breakdown say? How much did it cost to register it when you bought it? Was it significantly less?
I suspect that most of it is the VLF (i.e. a property tax for vehicles), plus a hefty transportation improvement fee. The VLF should reduce each year as the vehicle ages.
Thar is correct. Do other states have a property tax for vehicles? Transportation improvement fee? Lol. When we crossed from Nevade into California on I80 recently there was no need for a sign to let us know we had entered CA as the smooth well maintained road ended and the rough surfaces of the richest state of the union made their presence felt immidiately.
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Teleman
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09/24/21 05:32am |
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Outrageous CA registration fee!
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.
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Teleman
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09/23/21 10:36pm |
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RE: Inverter question
Just make sure the receptacles you want to use are not on the same breaker as the converter, which is sometimes the case in RVs. If they are you can change that without too much work.
The converter breaker is shared with the bedroom. The kitchen is on a separate breaker and the only one I would leave on.
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Teleman
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08/27/21 09:22am |
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RE: Inverter question
Interesting; is that the definition of a "hardcore mountain biker" in CA - eBikes?lol
Here's what I did.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Shared/n-vbVVCS/Isata-and-RV-related/i-fZc3sTk/0/67c7a90e/S/outlet-S.jpg
I replaced the existing RV type outlet with a residential one, cut the tabs on the back to isolate them from each other and wired one side to the inverter and left the other side wired as it was. That outlet was always there. If I'm plugged in, I use the shore side. If I'm not, I use the inverter side after turning the thing on with the remote on the wall. No ATS, no plugging or unplugging power cords and no flipping breakers.
That's very nice and a lot more work than I want to do.
Also the nearest outdoor receptacle is 15 feet from the rear of the RV where the bike rack is. My extension cord ends right at the foot of the ladder where it's convenient to plug in the chargers.
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Teleman
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08/27/21 08:30am |
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RE: Inverter question
Interesting; is that the definition of a "hardcore mountain biker" in CA - eBikes?
For decades we've pedaled up brutal climbs and rode down gnarly technical descents on traditional full suspension bikes. We just got eBikes to be able to increase our range and time out on the bikes. You're welcome to come along and if you're still game after pushing the 50 lb eBike up one of the unrideable hike a bike sections you'll get to follow us down one of the steep rocky shoots that's really just a boulder infested dry stream bed.
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Teleman
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08/27/21 08:29am |
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RE: Inverter question
Ok let me better explain this. We got along fine without an inverter until we got the e-bikes. I bought an 1100 w inverter to charge the e-bikes and simply planned to run an extension cord from the inverter which is near the house batteries which in this motorhome are under the hood. What I wound up doing was running the extension cord under the chassis in a split loom to the back of the RV where the bikes are on their rack I connect the chargers which are in a mesh bag securely hanging off the seat post on one of the bikes and then connect the magnetic charge plugs to the bikes. This way I can charge the bikes while I'm driving. Otherwise the big batteries in these bikes are a bit much for the two house batteries and will deplete them quite a bit for a full charge. Now since I have the extension cord outlet at the back of the RV it's very close to the shore power cable and easy to plug in simply to run the coffee machine. I've been dripping coffee by hand which is okay but it would be more convenient to just have the machine make the coffee. So I would shut off all the breakers but the kitchen galley where the coffee machine is plugged in. No big deal and not worth it for me to be wiring the inverter directly into the breaker box. I understand this is a bit too "Jerry rigged" for some of you but it's cheap and functional so I'm good with it.
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Teleman
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08/26/21 10:11pm |
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RE: Inverter question
Trust me this is the easiest solution. I can charge the eBikes while driving without using the generator. We are always on the move from one riding destination to another. We are hardcore mountain bikers and we don't stay put in one place very long. At some point we will install a solar system but this is working for us pretty well.
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Teleman
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08/26/21 12:03pm |
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