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RE: Possible CCC Upgrade

"Might be smart to weigh your rig loaded the way you want to run it. If the front axle is over with that load, what do you gain dicking around with the back?" My apologies JRscooby, I really need to learn how to do the "Quote function" on this board. The reason for increasing the rear axle load is on an extended length gas coach, 37ft in my case, there is considerable rear overhang and I have a lot of behind the rear axle basement storage. If I load all of the tailgate stuff as far back as I can and put the 100 lb charcoal grill on the 2" receiver hitch it unloads the front axle due to the principle of lever and fulcrum. Does not change anything with regard to the maximum CCC I have to work with however. And based on the same physics it starts rapidly adding weight to the rear axle. I am pretty conscious about weight, axle overloading, tire pressure and capacity, balance, etc. not only for safety, but handling as well. We use our coach a lot and in a wide variety of ways. Not really practical to weigh all the time so the goal is to know my best loading strategies and know I have plenty of left over capacity on each axle. But, in doing some more research and analysis, I believe the best solution for me will be to add rear axle air bags and an on board compressor so I can adjust the pressure from the cockpit. I can use them to add the weight capacity if needed and also to jack up the rear end if I see a gas station or shopping mall driveway approach that looks iffy on dragging the tail. This would avoid the stiff spring when running unloaded and give me easy on demand flexibility. Since every other component is exactly the same I am pretty sure the chassis can handle the few times I need the other pounds of CCC.
Williebago 06/20/20 09:50am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Possible CCC Upgrade

Williebago, Can you post a picture of the CCC sticker Newmar put in the unit? It would help us all understand better. Bruce, Have not gone thru the process to post a picture here, but here is what the label in the cabinet says: "Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) Computation" GVWR = 24,000 pounds Minus UVW = 21,922 pounds Minus Propane (25 gal.) = 105 pounds CCC for this motorhome = 1,973 pounds Combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed CCC. A full load of water equals 674 pounds of cargo. (8.3 lb/gal) Dealer installed equipment and towed vehicle tongue weight will reduce CCC This is pretty much verbatim what the label says along with definitions of GVWR, GCWR, UVW, and CCC and the necessary liability warnings, etc.
Williebago 06/19/20 11:22am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Possible CCC Upgrade

What is really going down here is that our old coach, the 35ft Dolphin, legitimately had about a full 2,000 lb. more CCC than our new 37ft Baystar. I weighed the Dolphin fully loaded several times and was really never close to its full CCC capacity whether we were loaded for a 10 week trip to Alaska or loaded with all the tailgating gear and planning on taking 7 full size adults to a football game. With the new coach, I do have to be very careful on how it is loaded for each trip. As I said, the sticker says the 80 gallon water capacity is 664 lbs. and is to be subtracted from the CCC leaving only 1,300 pounds for occupants and other cargo. Also, the frame section and steel strength is exactly the same. Everything is exactly the same on the spec sheets except for the capacity of the rear leaf springs. The raw curb weight of the stripped chassis is 7,381 lbs for the 24K frame and 7,394 lbs for the 26K frame with the same 252" wheelbase. I know manufacturers constantly struggle with cost creep on every design they put forward to build and sell to the public and chassis manufacturers, in this case Ford, offers a pretty wide varied of chassis capacities and wheel base lengths to accommodate desires of their manufacturing customers, but if the difference in cost is for 13 more pounds of steel in the springs to get another ton of CCC, why not. But my original post is not to be critical of manufacturers about this CCC topic or to disregard the need for any one to not fully understand the loading of front and rear axles for any type of trip one is packing for. Those are both topics for another post. I just want to know what am I missing in considering replacing the rear leaf springs?
Williebago 06/19/20 06:21am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Possible CCC Upgrade

Rich The new coach has a posted 1,974 pound CCC less 673 pounds for the water load (also posted) leaving the actual CCC for people and cargo of 1,301 pounds. I have weighed our new coach and it was pretty close to listed dry weight. I am not really interested in individual wheel or axle weights in my post. The coach has seat belts for 7. That alone is 7 X 200 lb per person is 1,400 pounds. Will replacing the rear springs increase the capacity by 2,000 more pounds? Seems to me that it would, but what else might I be missing since everything else; axles, brakes, etc. are all the same as the 26K chassis. Will handling or ride quality be adversely effected?
Williebago 06/18/20 10:43pm Class A Motorhomes
Possible CCC Upgrade

Wondering what I am missing? It seems like it would be pretty simple and inexpensive. We recently moved up from a 2003 Dolphin on a W22 chassis with 22K GVWR and 26K GCWR to a 2019 Newmar on a F53 chassis with a 24K GVWR and 30K GCWR. Problem is with full water we dropped from 3,300 pounds of CCC to only 1,300 pounds of CCC. So that got me looking at the Ford specs for the F53 chassis and comparing everything between the 24K and the max 26K chassis that both have the same 30K GCWR. And what I found was that the only apparent difference is the rear axle leaf springs. The 24K has 15,500 pound springs and the 26K has 17,500 pound rear springs. Same front axle and 9,000 pound springs. Same 17,500 pound Dana S17060S rear axle and differential. Same brakes and HydroMax specs and 15" rotors front and back. Same 50,000psi frame steel. Same everything except for rear leaf springs. If I just change the leaf springs up to the 17,500 pound units I would be back up to the 3,300 pound CCC I have been used to. Since we occasionally travel to football games with "full occupancy" plus cargo we would be at the 3,000+ pound CCC. So, what am I missing?
Williebago 06/18/20 08:56pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Long distance travel during the virus pandemic

State parks are still open in Kansas. Gas in Wichita is now at $1.40 or less most places. Many drive thru windows are open too, but no go in and sit down dining anywhere in the state.
Williebago 04/14/20 08:14pm General RVing Issues
RE: Dash AC

Based on the age of the coach my bet is you need to replace the vacuum lines. That is what fixed my 2003 Dolphin on a Workhorse W22. The Evcon Dash air uses vacuum lines and when there is a leak, the default is to defrost.
Williebago 04/14/20 08:09pm Tech Issues
RE: What manufacturers will this recession bring down?

jorbill2or - My apologies, you did identify Winnebago if they stretched to buy Newmar, and I totally agree with that assessment. Another one that may be in that same situation is Thor based on all of the acquisitions they have done over the past few years. Tons of inventory on the lots right now ready for this season. Stock market is see sawing and may have a lot of down turn left before bottoming out. If unemployment hits 20+% RV sales will crater. With such complex and intertwined global supply chains and this virus being world wide, 2nd and 3rd quarter look pretty bleak and 4th quarter not much better. They are talking about a possible second wave of this virus in the fall and that may extend sports league shutdowns, including all football, and who knows what for statewide stay at home orders. 20+/- RV manufacturers went out of business during and just after the 08/09 recession and I think 8 to 10 will be gone by end of the year. Just depends on how effective the stimulus dollars will be for this industry. I am hoping for the best, but only time will tell.
Williebago 04/05/20 09:26pm Around the Campfire
RE: What manufacturers will this recession bring down?

Fascinating! Five pages of commentary and not one answer to my original posted question. Lets try this again and just answer with RV manufacturers names. Fair enough.
Williebago 04/05/20 02:13pm Around the Campfire
What manufacturers will this recession bring down?

This topic has been moved to another forum. You can read it here: 30064847
Williebago 04/03/20 10:00pm Class A Motorhomes
What manufacturers will this recession bring down?

The Great Recession of 2008/9 took a number of manufacturers into bankruptcy. Just wondering which ones this recession is likely to bring down?
Williebago 04/03/20 10:00pm Around the Campfire
RE: 2020 Milepost

The Milepost is well worth having for the trip. We had a current copy for our first trip in 2013 and our last summers trip in 2019. Great to have a copilot who can read outloud and find all the hidden neat things they describe along the route while you keep an eye out to avoid hitting a moose or bear on the road. Glad we went last year to avoid all the rapid changing border closings for travelers.
Williebago 03/28/20 08:40pm RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: Best gadget buy in a long long long time

I have a lot of the Ryobi 18v tools, including the small chain saw and reciprocating saw. I also have a stash of pruning saw blades for the reciprocating saw that make fast work of small diameter logs.
Williebago 02/23/20 11:02am General RVing Issues
RE: firewall, black expanding foam

Thank you for the suggestions, and I guess "firewall" in a gas class A is a misnomer. Plywood and foam sealant, etc. would not slow down an engine blaze. Some will be simple to fix, but others will be nearly impossible to find.
Williebago 01/23/20 10:06pm Class A Motorhomes
firewall, black expanding foam

After driving with our new gas class A in 20 degree weather have some minor leaks in the front firewall creating some minor comfort issues that just can't be resolved by the dash heater controls. I want to work on some of these infiltration leaks, but I don't want to use a flammable foam, so what do the manufacturers use for the black expanding foam in this application?
Williebago 01/20/20 07:52pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: The Trinity Site

pigfarmer wrote: Wow Williebago! That does sound interesting but is it possiple to do? They are in opposite directions and miles apart. We figured a day for each. unless something has changed all you’ll need at Trinity is an hour or so. the VLA is about a 90-min drive. pigfarmer: We were waiting on the edge of the highway thirty minutes before they open the north gate to access the Trinity Site. Be sure and have a photo ID as your are entering a secure military base and they check those things. There is acres of desert parking and plan on a quarter of a mile hike on level terrain to the site itself. It is interspersed with exhibit plaques and the monument itself is a lava rock obelisk built on Ground Zero of the blast. All kind of sobering if you really stop to think about it. Also, there is the farm stead about a mile and a half or so from ground zero that survived the blast and has been preserved by the Park Service. Be sure and go there as well. It is where they did some final assemble work on the core and has a framed copy on the bedroom wall of the letter from Einstein to President Roosevelt explaining why the Manhattan project was necessary and why we needed to be the first to develop the atomic bomb. If I remember correctly they say that a half day visit is the equivalent of a single dental Xray and less than a trans-continental airplane flight. In all, if you are early on the site in the morning, you will be able to have lunch at the Owl Bar in San Antonio and have their world famous green chili cheeseburger. Then continue the drive to the VLA and spend the entire afternoon there. As I mentioned, it is the only place I know where you can be in the control room and look thru a glass wall at the massive super computer that processes all of the data the 27 radio telescopes collect. Fascinating! At the gift shop purchase a DVD of the movie contact with Jodie Foster and watch it that night in your RV. We then drove back to the Bosque Birdwatchers RV park south of San Antonio but just north of the Bosque del Apache wildlife refuge. Spent the next day there watching all of the sandhill cranes and geese in migration and hoping to see a rare Whooping crane that are occasionally there as well. Do it, you won't regret it. And for those who have not been to White Sands add a couple of more days to your trip and spend there. Another amazing place in the "Land of Enchantment". Enjoy your trip.
Williebago 01/18/20 04:16pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: The Trinity Site

On the two days a year that the Trinity site is open, at the VLA (Very Large Array) the control room is open to the tours. Normally the control building and the Super Computer is not part of the tour, so try to do both on the same day.
Williebago 01/16/20 06:05pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Verizon 5g as hotspot if anyone has it yet

I have not really driven east of the Mississippi river, so do not know about cell phone coverage and if dropped calls are a problem because of not enough towers to handle the volume of calls or the line of site issues or whatever. I have driven all over the area west of the Mississippi river and while my plan is Verizon and my wife's plan is AT&T we are constantly amazed at how frequently one or the other or both of us will not have cell service, either 4G, 3G or less. I think the carriers need to fulfill the obligation they have to provide the phone service the American public deserves for selling them the frequency rights in our country. You should be able to place a phone call from virtually every mile of every paved road in America. All of the maps provided by the carries are pathetic.
Williebago 01/14/20 12:24pm Technology Corner
RE: Ford Increases GVWR for 2020 Trucks

This topic has lead me to look into the spec data on the various differences on the 24,000 and the 26,000 lb. class A chassis. So looking at the Ford F53 2019 brochure it appears the only difference between these two chassis is the rear leaf spring rating. Same 9,000 lb. front axle, engine and drive train, same 17,500 lb. Dana rear axle, and same tires. Difference is 15,500 lb. springs on the 24K chassis verses 17,500 lb. springs on the 26K chassis. Can't be more than a couple of hundred dollars of initial cost difference. So why would manufacturers building 37 to 39 foot class A gas coaches not go for the heavier 26K chassis to provide more CCC? Seems that the marketing pitch possibilities alone would be worth those bragging rights. That certainly seems to be the case in the pick up truck marketing wars.
Williebago 01/14/20 12:04pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Verizon 5g as hotspot if anyone has it yet

From our perspective 5G will never be anywhere I want to RV in my lifetime. That said, it would be nice if all of the providers would finish building out their 4G networks which have a 10 mile range between towers. Think of all the areas you camp that you cannot get a decent 3G signal and it goes to 1X or just "No Service". 5G is a dense urban environment technology. That said, it might replace RV park WIFI systems where a half a dozen pole mounted towers would cover a couple of hundred spaces with enough bandwidth that everyone can stream their favorite TV shows without buffering. Time will tell, but don't hold your breath.
Williebago 01/13/20 09:19am Technology Corner
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