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RE: Ford vs Dodge 4 point fifthwheel attachment

Part # I believe is 30126 for the underbed Reese puck system for the Ford. I think he is going to have to start over , pretty sure that hitch is also truck specific. I agree with the start over, if he already purchased a Ram truck. Since OP has not returned, it would seem he got his answer, from my original post. If he has not yet purchased the Ram, he may be able to use that Reese hitch, in a newer Ford, with OEM pucks??? Would gain, best mirrors, best IBC, save $1400 by using same hitch!:) If he owns a Ram already, with OEM pucks, then a 3600 hitch is a wise choice. If the 16K Sig will fit in Ford OEM puck system, it would be easy to sell! Jerry I agree, especially the mirrors ,compared to the Ram mirrors. I don't blame him for wanting to keep that Signature ,as said I have that hitch in an 18K slider. They have the same head as the Elite , one piece 1" thick wrap around jaw, very solid .
cummins2014 11/26/20 10:36am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Ford vs Dodge 4 point fifthwheel attachment

Part # I believe is 30126 for the underbed Reese puck system for the Ford. I think he is going to have to start over , pretty sure that hitch is also truck specific.
cummins2014 11/25/20 09:27am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Ford vs Dodge 4 point fifthwheel attachment

I agree, I think the original Reese/Ford OEM for pucks was an Elite, and only available as an 18K and a 20 something, maybe 25K? If OP would return, offer more info, we could give better advice. OP seems confused, maybe meant 18K, not 16K, who knows? Maybe doesn't know difference between Sig and Elite? Stop by OP, give more info!! Jerry What I found, I didn't know existed , that underbed Reese puck system, it goes underneath ,would have to require four holes cut in the bed , just like the OE puck system the Ford ,and Ram has now. It appears to bolt up underneath. Its a frame with the four pucks. Part # for the hitch is 30057.
cummins2014 11/25/20 08:37am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Ford vs Dodge 4 point fifthwheel attachment

After further looking , pretty sure the OP has an aftermarket Reese underbed puck system that allows this 16K Signature hitch to be attached, enables a gooseneck hitch or this 16K fifth wheel hitch to be installed , its vehicle specific. This 16K has the four point locking system that only fits that aftermarket . Pretty sure he is stuck with a hitch that only goes on the ford aftermarket.
cummins2014 11/25/20 08:29am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Ford vs Dodge 4 point fifthwheel attachment

If you are asking if a hitch for oem Ford puck system will fit the Ram pucks, the answer is no. Jerry I am wondering if it just a bedrail type hitch , I couldn't find a Reese 16K Signature with a puck system style . I have the 18K Reese Signature sliding hitch , they have the same head as the Elite, great hitch. I can see why he wants to keep using it. When I bought my Ram ,it had the puck system, so I went with Reese picture frame adapter that fit the pucks ,and enabled me to stay with the Reese Hitch If that is his situation, he could go with an adapter, there are three of them now, Reese ,Demco, and Pullrite. He hasn't been back, but I have to think that 16K hitch has been on standard rails. I will take another look ,but I don't think Reese sells a Signature hitch that goes in the OEM puck system. They do sell fifth wheel hitches that do, but not the Signature .
cummins2014 11/25/20 08:08am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Have You Installed Your Own Slide Topper?

I would love slide toppers, but what does everyone do in the winds? We get horrible winds where we camp. I Don't have slide toppers on current trailer but on previous trailer, they could withstand much more wind when compared to an awning......but some flapping is to be expected. My Colorado toppers were 10 yrs old when trailer was sold. Same here, was in wind ,at times. Yes the one longest flapped a bit, and was annoying , but it never hurt the topper.
cummins2014 11/24/20 10:17am General RVing Issues
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

I would like to see the numbers you claim on 3/4 ton has the same payload as the 1 ton, show me the numbers on any brand that has more payload , apples to apples, not different configurations, but the same truck . Never said apples to apples truck configurations. I said quote.... "Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD." Hell anyone that knows how to read Fleet Ford specs knows some F350 srw can have the same GVWR/RAWR as the F250 and the same payloads. But you did bring up a good point of a loaded F350 SRW 6.7 crew cab 4wd 159" wb with a 2500 lb payload vs a F250 std cab long bed 6.7 2wd 141" wb with a 3450 lb payload. Why are you bringing up different configurations. Let’s say the OP wants a crew cab short bed any brand ,the 1 ton in that truck is the higher payload , thats my point . Its simple here , get the 1 ton in the same truck , that’s what’s being said . This is a family , at the least a crew cab , a std. cab is not even in the conversation, so I don’t get your point at all promoting a 3/4 ton . You are the one reading the fleet ford specs, show the numbers . Same truck , 250,350 show me where the 2021 Ford Superduty SRW Crew Cab Lariat 250 has the same payload as the 350.
cummins2014 11/22/20 10:48pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Having made a living using them all I prefer a 3/4 ton HD which can handle 3000-3400 lb of load in the bed safely/legally. BTDT. Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD. Everyone has their likes/dislikes in truck sizes which is fine with me. Any of the 3/4 ton truck will serve the OP with room to spare. No doubt as said the 3/4 ton will get the job done, nobody disagrees, but it has its limits . I would like to see the numbers you claim on 3/4 ton has the same payload as the 1 ton, show me the numbers on any brand that has more payload , apples to apples, not different configurations, but the same truck .
cummins2014 11/21/20 08:25am Fifth-Wheels
RE: General 5th Wheel Brand Question

I would consider Montana and Cedar Creek as high MID-level units. I agree, at least high mid level, as well as the Bighorn.
cummins2014 11/20/20 11:37am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Couldn’t agree more , totally surprises me some of the responses, considering your response which seems obvious to many that know the score on the differences between the two . As you said , and IMO 3/4 tons don’t make a lot of sense .
cummins2014 11/20/20 08:41am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

"Well the 1,338# DRY pin on a GVWR of 10,195# at GVWR pin could be 2,020# at 20%." ^^^^^ Agree, worst case, yes it could be 2,020 at full GVWR. What's the problem??? Any 3/4 ton, even an older model can easily carry that, plus a 200 lb hitch on a rear axle with 6-6.5K RAWR available. OP could buy your old, IIRC, 2,001 2500 and carry 2k pin, 200 lb hitch, and a load of fire wood, still be under axle/tire rating. Many 25 series trucks have a 6,500 lb RA rating. My 250 can carry my FW GVWR 12,110, if loaded to capacity while staying under every rating, including my payload. OP just stated again they want a 250, which will work great. If they wanted a 350, I'd tell them that will work great. If they NEEDED a DRW, I would suggest they go that route. Nice to see a little activety on the FW forum, even if it's just banter! Jerry A little banter is great . We need a little more keeps it interesting, but usually it’s not allowed :(
cummins2014 11/20/20 08:07am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Why all the advice on 250/2500, knowing full well the 1 ton is the better choice in many ways :h " Really hoping to get by with a 3/4. It says hitch weight is 1338 with a GVWR of 10195." ^^^^^ Above per OP statement Any late model 3/4 ton will easily handle this trailer, without even being close to going over ratings. If someone asking, was absolutely considering a truck, that in my opinion was not safe/capable, I'd be the first to advise them of a better choice! In many states GVWR is just a class regulation for insurance/registration. In states that do consider GVWR for registration, you only need to pay for it. Now you are good for 12k GVWR on your 25 series truck. It is the axle/tire ratings that matter, and if the tires are up to it, yes, bags can make the 3/4 ton do any job the 35 series SRW will do. If you see a bigger FW in your future, such as Russ may be considering, then get the 35 series DRW now and be done. If you are considering a FW with a GVWR of 15K, yes, I'd say get the 35 series SRW as a minimum, and if full time is in your future, a long bed DRW truck a better choice. Everyone does not need a bigger truck than needed for the FW they are wanting to buy! Jerry Well the 1,338# DRY pin on a GVWR of 10,195# at GVWR pin could be 2,020# at 20%. Granted in Oregon I don’t pay any more for our 3500 DRW, than we pay for our PT Cruiser. I’m fully aware that the OP’s choice of fifth wheels the 3/4 ton will do nicely , but IMO a mistake. As said have seen it many times . I could care less once a year if I’m paying a few dollars more for registration. Here in Utah I have no idea if there is a difference in fees.
cummins2014 11/20/20 07:57am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Wow, lots to think about. Yes, I really want to stay with a 250. The truck will be my daily driver for errands and carpools. Still trying to swallow giving up the SUV. However, I am definitely looking at all the numbers. It's amazing what truck salesmen don't know. Having to get a bigger truck is on the negative side of choosing a 5th wheel over trailer. However, that 5th wheel sure offers more. Also, I don't plan on going bigger. This will be our 5th trailer. We have 2 big teenagers now. Like I mentioned before a really small travel trailer is my first choice but right now I want the double bunks. Thanks, so much to think about. Not sure why you have the idea that a 3/4 ton would be any different for errands and carpooling then a 1 ton , there is not . Basically the same truck with better towing capacities. I don’t know how many stories we have read like yours , and have wished they would have went with the 1 ton . I’m surprised more haven’t chimed in with even a long bed etc etc . Myself the 1 ton crew cab short bed diesel is the only way to go . Even that limits me going any bigger on a fifth wheel.
cummins2014 11/19/20 04:56pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Thank you! This is really helping. I wondered about the pin weight "wet". Really hoping to get by with a 3/4. It says hitch weight is 1338 with a GVWR of 10195. So I should expect a pin weight of like 2,240??? That's a big difference. It's supposed to be one of the lighter 5th wheels with no slides in the bedroom. That advertised hitch weight of 1338 is the DRY pin weight based on the DRY published weight of 5th wheel Yes...wet pin could be 2240 (22% of GVWR) Any recent 250/2500 truck will handle & carry that weight OK Why all the advice on 250/2500, knowing full well the 1 ton is the better choice in many ways :h There are other things to consider. Like registration fees. If the 1 ton is not necessary, and it is not for the size 5th wheel he is looking at, why pay the extra registration fee every year? As said the age old 3/4 ton mistake , registration is minimal compared to having to get the right tow vehicle . It’s seldom once someone starts with a small fifth wheel they stay with one .
cummins2014 11/19/20 10:12am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

We have a 32' fifth wheel. Pulls just fine with our Chev 2500 HD Diesel. No weight issues. The only issue we have is we have looked at some larger trailers, toy haulers, etc. Can't safely pull them with our current truck. Would need a 1 ton. My only regret is not having a 1 ton long bed for hauling. We mostly use the truck to haul, so if I could buy all over again right now, it would be a 1 ton. Again , we have all these experienced guys pushing 3/4 ton , and using things like registration, it will handle it etc etc. I bought my first diesel it was a 1 ton to tow a 26 foot light weight travel trailer , never gave a fifth wheel a thought until about three years later , and had the truck for it . Your story we’ve heard many times . My advice for the OP get the 1 ton and be done , and room to grow , and forget the 3/4 ton mistake .
cummins2014 11/19/20 10:05am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Advice on towing a 5th wheel

Thank you! This is really helping. I wondered about the pin weight "wet". Really hoping to get by with a 3/4. It says hitch weight is 1338 with a GVWR of 10195. So I should expect a pin weight of like 2,240??? That's a big difference. It's supposed to be one of the lighter 5th wheels with no slides in the bedroom. That advertised hitch weight of 1338 is the DRY pin weight based on the DRY published weight of 5th wheel Yes...wet pin could be 2240 (22% of GVWR) Any recent 250/2500 truck will handle & carry that weight OK Why all the advice on 250/2500, knowing full well the 1 ton is the better choice in many ways :h
cummins2014 11/18/20 08:31pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Peel and Sick Vinyl Plank.

Just remember once you glue it down it is not ever going to come up without destroying the subfloor. That was my thinking. I was thinking of going with the floating laminate, from what I see it works well in Rv's. They just snap together ,no sticking ,no glue.
cummins2014 11/14/20 05:15pm General RVing Issues
RE: 12 volt blanket?

Let’s do some simple math. Taking that 4.5 amp draw, over an 8 hour snooze, we get 36 amp hours per night. At 6.5 amps, that’s 52 amp hours per night. If you have the single 80 amp hour battery most TTS come with, that blanket will completely drain as much power as you dare or even damage the battery. You need to check you battery AH rating before deciding. Let's do some simple reading. :W I have two 6 volt Trojan T105 batteries. 225ah. When are they going to add the like button :B
cummins2014 11/13/20 01:19pm General RVing Issues
RE: CDN Snowbirds getting their RV's across....

This is funny. Y’all getting riled up over people being resourceful and not breaking any rules. Once again, this forum is sorely missing a "Like" button. :) I don't see anyone "riled up" A bit puzzled, maybe, but not riled up. Just because it's not breaking any rules doesn't make it right. And it just doesn't make sense to be able to fly in but not drive in. I agree, not a thing to like about that post. A lot of rules don't make sense
cummins2014 11/13/20 09:17am General RVing Issues
RE: General 5th Wheel Brand Question

I once heard there were more Montana's on the road than anything else. They were the #1 selling fifth wheel for many years. You still see a lot of new ones ,I suspect they still are . I have owned 2 of them, and they served me well .
cummins2014 11/09/20 02:23pm Fifth-Wheels
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