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RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

Good points. Where the hitch was located in the bed ... how the back of the pin box was shaped... length of the pin box... pin box location ...are all unknowns. Apparently most Andersen users as you don't have these issue. Its usually just the ones that are not paying attention ,and takes out a back window or dent their cab are the ones with the issue of their own doing. This Andersen does give you more clearance than a conventional hitch or a manual slider. Of course a manual slider does, when used ,but how many times have we read where they took out their window or dented the cab because they didn't use the slider. Its not the hitch at fault here . The hijacker did take longer then usual . :R
cummins2014 09/16/20 01:13pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Decals cracking

Nope, keep 303ing or waxing them and get the most outta them you can. I HATE cheap vinyl decals on stuff exposed to alot of UV. With the RV industry, it is like an epidemic of planned obsolescence. Some recommend scraping the decals right away before you get discoloration in the siding, but then your camper look like a FEMA trailer. I've been slowly cutting back the "splash" looking decals on our old camper, keeps em from looking too raggedy. And you cant really tell since they are irregular shaped. If I actually had spare time, I'd scrape em all and either do some vinyl wrap, paint or get a new set of decals. Mine mostly started to curl, and did the same , trimmed them back. It got to the point where you could actually see the border where they used to be. There is no secret they are eventually going to go bad, then its either replace them , or paint new ones . There is no way I know of to hide where they were, the oxidation around them is nearly impossible to buff out. The shadows will show.
cummins2014 09/16/20 08:09am General RVing Issues
RE: Decals

I've replaced mine and I hate to say it but it's a pain in the rear to try to do yourself. First question to answer is do you just want to remove the decals, or to replace the decals. If replacing you need to find replacements or have a sign guy measure the old decals. Then take lots of pictures of the RV and decals so you can see where each decal is. Now for the fun part. Get some plastic razor blades (looks like a razor blade but it's made out of plastic) and a heat gun. Start to heat a decal and hopefully you can pull the decals off in one piece. You have to be careful though as there is a really fine line between heating the decal enough to remove and heating it too much and it just goes all stretchy and gooey. On some of mine I had to use a lot of goof off to remove the decals and underlying adhesive. With a corrugated RV, once the decals are off you'll probably want to pay a sign guy to reinstall the new ones. But plan on paying around 1,200 in labor alone. My friend owns a sign shop and helped me with mine. The first decal we tried to install had to bridge over the corrugations. We pretty quickly gave up and he called his subcontractor to come do the work. It took his subcontractor who does this kind of work for a living five hours to do all the decals. I agree 100% , they are tough to deal with. I think I would rather take them off then put them back on . Getting them to come off without leaving adhesive is also a challenge. I have done a few on my previous fifth wheel, and it was smooth fiberglass . It was very difficult to get the bigger decals back on smoothly , have to be extremely careful. There seemed to be a fine line between how much soapy water to use to be able move them if needed, and being able to squeege them smooth without a wrinkle or bubbles . I found with the bubbles to leave them alone ,and not try to get them pushed out. Just leave them . With a nice warm day the heat will take care of the small bubbles, or I have stuck a pin in them ,and that helped a little.
cummins2014 09/16/20 07:56am General RVing Issues
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

“...With the popularity of the Andersen , that is not a bad idea if someone actually has the Andersen hitch, odds say they won't ,they will steal a fifth wheel with a convention pin box , having a convention fifth wheel hitch to do the stealing with ...” Agreed. The lock does makes it nearly impossible for the adapter to “walk away”. I also remove the ball from the top of my hitch and lock it in the toolbox when not in use. When I am not towing the tonneau cover is hiding the hitch, although if they want it ,they will get it, but with a locked tailgate they will have to cut the tonneau cover out of the way or break open the tailgate. It won't be easy. As far as the adapter, I suppose someone will steal anything , but I can't imagine those adapter being in high demand. Taking the time ,and having the allen wrench ,and wrenches to remove just doesn't sound likely. I think that lock is mostly to prevent the theft of the fifth wheel, and here again I like my odds they don't have an Andersen hitch .
cummins2014 09/16/20 07:41am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

OP, back on topic. I talked with a man at a campground a couple of years ago with a new, high end, Ram and a new Montana High Country trailer. He wasn't too happy, his cab was dented and his rear window was gone and taped over with plastic. His Andersen hitch in the rear position was allowing his pin box to bite chunks out of his tailgate so he reversed the adapter. He happily towed for many miles until he lost focus on a tight back up combined with a driveway dip. The Montana does indeed have rounded corners but the trailer slopes forward from the overhang. When he went into the driveway dip the trailer leaned forward and took out his window. His dented cab was near the roof. You may want to keep this in mind. Look at the Blue Ox Super Ride instead. It will hinge rearward when you need it. I agree, if you blindly back up ,and not pay attention you are going to get into trouble. That was my concern with the pinbox being to close to the tailgate . If I would have had time on that first tow with the new fifth wheel I would of trimmed the corners on the pinbox , instead as said I reversed the adapter. I have no issues with it reversed . The combination of the pinbox placement on the fifth wheel ,and the rounded corners I don't plan on reversing it or doing anything with the pinbox . I too have a driveway with a dip , and a street that is a bit too narrow to be able to back in gradual . I have to crank it pretty tight ,but still not a problem.
cummins2014 09/16/20 07:33am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

With the popularity of the Andersen , that is not a bad idea if someone actually has the Andersen hitch, odds say they won't ,they will steal a fifth wheel with a convention pin box , having a convention fifth wheel hitch to do the stealing with . Yes ,as said before ,just depends on that rounded corners on the front cap. Thats a catchy name " Turn Tec " . pretty simple , just take some inside room out of the fifth wheel ,and make those corners deeper .
cummins2014 09/15/20 04:28pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Flying Floating Flooring

Have any of you ever installed floating flooring in your RV and glued it in place? No need for hundreds to pile on with the mfgr said this and that and no you can’t do it because the warranty is gone and yada yada yada. I know one isn’t “supposed“ to glue floating floors. I’m asking in this context: - Floating floors are designed to float because of expansion; the reason a 1/4” gap is left around the perimeter. - BUT, is expansion really an issue in such a narrow installation like a motor home??? The widest part of my RV’s floor is about 6’. I understand the necessity of considering expansion in a home with a large room. But what if one were simply doing a four foot wide hallway; which in most cases are around three to six feet wide. If one could glue a hall, one should be able to glue in an RV. I don’t think the weather extreme argument holds or the manufacturer would warn against installing their products in vacation homes where inside is like outside when no one is in residence and then fired up the furnace/AC a few times a year. I’ll add a line or two about why I’m asking: I’m concerned that the rollers on the slide out may push the flooring ahead of it, and the worst case scenario would be when they push the flooring till it stops against the far wall it could then push the flooring until it “accordions”. When a roller under load is given enough inertia to move it has to be forced to roll; it doesn’t want to by itself; it digs in like a kid being pushed towards the bathroom to brush their teeth, then it will roll. If the floor is glued this concern doesn’t exist. Yes...sort of. I mitigated the floaty thing by fastening the first board on one side. That was 10 years ago. This stuff is as tough as it comes. Dogs, wet feet, all season, (we were full time for years). Not sure if this is what you wanted to hear but its my contribution. Side note, we installed the underfloor heating pads. Total of a few hundred watts but feet are always toasty in winter. And yes we installed under couch lighting. Nice for movie nights etc. This is in our 2003 Revolution we have had since new. Looks as good now as it did then...at least inside. Paint job is kinda shot. Meh. Still runs great after 155K on the clock. Woohoo. :) https://live.staticflickr.com/564/31907144006_a7fd57c41d_c.jpg Could you elaborate on the install , is there slideouts involved, thickness of the material. How was the one side fastened down , nailed , glued ?
cummins2014 09/15/20 02:17pm General RVing Issues
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

Looking at a Ram. Can anyone comment that has an Andersen hitch with the 6' box? What kind of clearance are you getting between the cab and tailgate. What's the orientation of the pin adapter? Thanks Repost the question that was hijacked by the usual X&X brand crowd. :Z Hang in for awhile spud as more will drop by and give you their experiences with both products. Hopefully not . Why not ?? ...spud is the OP and was asking about a short bed Ram truck and the Andersen hitch.... so I mentioned them as both products....just trying to help spud find his answers by keeping the thread on topic. Sorry I misunderstood what you meant . I guess you didn’t see or read my replies , I have both products short bed Ram and Andersen hitch. Here’s the deal he’s concerned with clearance , he should be . He’s thinking about a short bed Ram , the shortest of the three , and a fixed hitch . Biggest things he needs to be aware of using the Andersen is pin box location on the fifth wheel , that will determine the direction of the adapter , and the front cap of the fifth wheel ,how rounded it is .
cummins2014 09/15/20 12:56pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Flying Floating Flooring

Some random thoughts: at least 15 years ago, I installed peel-and-stick "oak" vinyl planks in our (house) bathroom, I think they were made by Congoleum; and they have endured all these years and still look nice. Last year, we had Home Depot's "Life proof" vinyl planks installed in our condo - one of the things I noticed was that they didn't have to be "acclimatized" by sitting inside for a few days before installation. Implies to me that they don't shrink or expand as much as other flooring? The drawback is the thickness of each plank - they are at least 1/4" thick, which might interfere with a slideout. Last thought: depending on whether the RV is a trailer or MH, there could be uneven heat sources (like exhaust pipes) under the floor. I saw a converted van, whose owner has installed vinyl "coin flooring" and it bubbled up where it was laid over the cat. converter. I agree , 1/4" might be an issue , but as far as going over that 1/4" , I don't think in my case it would be an issues , there is actually a raised portion just as the slide goes over into the flooring, and that 1/4" would actually be below that slightly. As far as the slide out goes there is enough movement in them 1/4" raised up as it goes in, I wouldn't think its an issue. The rollers on a hard surface is the only issue, and those slickers can cure that. Although that laminate flooring is much tougher then that cheap linoleum they put in a lot of RV's
cummins2014 09/15/20 11:25am General RVing Issues
RE: tire pressure

Oh yea, AWESOME choice of RV tires!!! I agree , second best choice he could of made :B Sorry couldn't help myself :p
cummins2014 09/15/20 11:06am Fifth-Wheels
RE: tire pressure

Always run trailer tires at max pressure no matter how many axles. ...Maybe if you're running ST tires, but I run my Sailun "G" rated tires at 95 psi rather than the 110 psi that is the max pressure. Makes for a much smoother ride. And with 2000-2500 lbs. per wheel I don't need to run the max pressure. Same here ,but a little more pressure then you , usually right at 100 psi is what I am running them now .
cummins2014 09/15/20 11:04am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

"WOW... is it me, or are people a bit on edge lately? I thought this thread stayed surprisingly straight forward?" Lately?????? Yes , lately . Thank you for keeping it that way . The subject was a Ram truck , and the Andersen hitch, nothing more was really needed .
cummins2014 09/15/20 10:58am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

quote - "Repost the question that was hijacked by the usual X&X brand crowd" quote - "Since most of the responses have nothing to do with the OP question" WOW... is it me, or are people a bit on edge lately? I thought this thread stayed surprisingly straight forward? I agree, as said its been pleasant to say the least. :C
cummins2014 09/15/20 10:55am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

I responded to the OP on this, and I see he is also running the adapter with the fifth wheel closer to the cab, same as I am. If wanted he could run that 8 " further back. Without checking I thought with this new fifth wheel it looked like the pin box was a little too close to the tailgate , so I reversed the adapter putting the fifth wheel closer to the cab. Still I have no clearance issues with the cab. My previous fifth wheel with the Morryde pin box I ran the adapter putting the fifth wheel further from the cab. I started with the adapter in the forward position, pin box further back, since every one I had seen was done that way. I was not comfortable with the pin box to tailgate clearance so it was simple to reverse the adapter, moving the box forward in the bed. Had I followed the Andersen install instructions (measurements), I would have done it that way to start with. No dents... Yet! When I first hooked up to the Andersen with the new fifth wheel, with it closer to the tailgate, as said didn't like what I was seeing. I was leaving on a trip ,and didn't have time to really check it out, so I reversed it before even pulling out of the driveway. I plan now to leave it that way. I like it a bit more over the axle .
cummins2014 09/15/20 10:54am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

Looking at a Ram. Can anyone comment that has an Andersen hitch with the 6' box? What kind of clearance are you getting between the cab and tailgate. What's the orientation of the pin adapter? Thanks Repost the question that was hijacked by the usual X&X brand crowd. :Z Hang in for awhile spud as more will drop by and give you their experiences with both products. Hopefully not .
cummins2014 09/15/20 08:38am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

Since most of the responses have nothing to do with the OP question, I'll chime in with a response only half way appropriate... I've been towing for years now with a Ram 2500 8' bed and Andersen Ultimate goose neck attached hitch. So, I can tick the Ram and Andersen boxes and ignore the 6.5 bed and puck mount. :) I love it. No negatives worth mentioning. The absolute only negative I can think of (a minor nit) is that I have to run the front jacks further up and down to hitch up than I did with the traditional hitch. Oh, and I'm surprised you didn't get "Andersen sucks. You can't put my 5 padlocks on it and prevent someone from unhooking it". :) He got what he needed to know, I tow with the Andersen with a short bed Ram 3500. Yes it was very pleasant that everyone stuck to the script here, it was about the Andersen ,not a dozen different hitches ,and how many padlocks :B Needs to be more of that .
cummins2014 09/15/20 08:37am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

Looking at a Ram. Can anyone comment that has an Andersen hitch with the 6' box? What kind of clearance are you getting between the cab and tailgate. What's the orientation of the pin adapter? Thanks A buddy and me installed a B&W Turnover Ball hitch in the bed of my Ram 2500 Cummins. Short box. Factory plastic bed liner. No problems with the Andersen Ultimate hitch so far. Torque wrench in the truck toolbox for checking the bolts every couple of days on the road. Hitch adapter is in the reverse position to get the long pin box inside the bed and the cutouts on the Chaparral front corners allow plenty of clearance. I’ve turned at least 60 degrees on dirt/gravel and might make 90 if I screw up and really need to. Hitch ball is in the lowest position since truck is a 4x4 and high. Photos to follow... https://i.imgur.com/9nT9pbBl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/m3HR04Ul.jpg I responded to the OP on this, and I see he is also running the adapter with the fifth wheel closer to the cab, same as I am. If wanted he could run that 8 " further back. Without checking I thought with this new fifth wheel it looked like the pin box was a little too close to the tailgate , so I reversed the adapter putting the fifth wheel closer to the cab. Still I have no clearance issues with the cab. My previous fifth wheel with the Morryde pin box I ran the adapter putting the fifth wheel further from the cab.
cummins2014 09/15/20 08:33am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Andersen and 6'4" Ram

"Secret Squirrel" :B NOW your showing your age.... the LAST episode of the aired in 1966! I actually think that I may still have a comic book with Secrete Squirrel ? I was graduating from high school that year, had other things on my mind, but it was not comic books :B I WAS 2 ! I thought you were just a youngster :B
cummins2014 09/14/20 04:17pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Considering a '17 3500 Ram

No rear seat venting on them. He was asking about vents for the rear passengers, not vented seats in the rear. They will have heat and AC ducting for the passengers, but not heated/cooled/vented seats. Mine has heated ,but not cooled rear seats .
cummins2014 09/14/20 04:11pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Considering a '17 3500 Ram

As the title says, looking for comments from the Ram owners. Has the HO with Aisin. Mega cab with Laramie trim. 55,000 miles. Any thoughts, comments? Does it have heat/AC vents under the front seats for the rear passengers? Weird question but important one for us. Thanks S My 2014 Laramie has two vents in the back side of the center console for heating ,and air conditioning blowing on the passengers. Plus the seats are heated. But no cooled seats like in the front . Mine is also the Megacab , wouldn't be without, thats where the fly rods go, behind the back seat . I usually leave at least three strung up, and ready to go back there :B
cummins2014 09/14/20 04:09pm Tow Vehicles
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