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RE: Turning Point Pin Box questions

My fatherly advice, is more about practicality, than dollars spent! While I have never been left, wanting for much, most of my adult life, I've never purposely purchased extras on a vehicle, that I'd never use. I've purchased 8 new trucks, off the lot, some fancier than I needed, but got a great deal. The Ford XLT, that I have now, my 9th new truck, is the only one I ordered. It has some handy things, the computer stuff, the steering wheel controls, including hands free phone button. BTW...as to Dad, not knowing your age, I'm guessing you meant brother, likely younger brother. :C Jerry Yes ,the XLT would be my choice after having most of the bells ,and whistles on this 2014 Ram Laramie. The leather or whatever you want to call it interior is not for me. My previous truck was a Ford Superduty XLT, loved that truck. If ,and when I buy a new truck, and its a big if, it will be the Ford again.
cummins2014 01/31/20 09:53am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Time for new tires?

Run em as long as the tread is good. Reading this post and then seeing your signature makes me shake my head! OH please explain. All that money you've got tied up in your truck/5th wheel and you`d risk a blowout because they still look good! If they are QUALITY tires like my “H” rated GY’s I will run them at least 8 years. Truck will be as long as they look good. Thanks for the reply! Yikes !!! 8 years on Goodyear trailer tires ,and your weight . Let us know how that works out. :h
cummins2014 01/28/20 12:44pm Tow Vehicles
RE: New used truck

Today we test drove a 2017 Ford F350 6.7, CC,LB, DRW 4X4 KING RANCH. We currently have a 2004 F350 V10 CC LB 4X4 SRW XLT. With 13 years of technology advancements between these two trucks, I was expecting the 2017 to ride smoother, more quiet and with more power. It had more power for sure, but the 04 was much smoother and more quiet. And lastly, the ride of the 2017 was stiff and rough compared to the 04. Is this the ride of all DRW trucks? I found the same thing going from a 99 Superduty 350 SRW short bed to a 2014 Ram 3500 Megacab. Only thing I like more on the Ram is the power , the reason for getting it to tow a fifth wheel . I thought the older Ford handled better, mirrors were better, interior was more comfortable. Only thing better besides the power of the Ram is it is quieter then that 7.3 power stroke. Between the two I preferred driving the Ford . Nearly 16 years difference in age, and I still think the Ford was overall a more enjoyable truck, and it looked better :B
cummins2014 01/28/20 12:35pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: F350 Super Duty vs 3500 Denali vs The Ike Pulling 30k lbs

To have zero brake applications they need to be running at the speed they want to maintain then set cruise to say 5mph less but also lock the trans in the same gear you would have climbed that grade in. This will vary based on the grade and load. This takes a human to dial this in. I easily maintained 30-35mph locked in 2nd gear on a several mile 14% grade at 33k combined simply by moving the cruise speed up or down with my thumb. For the Cummins closer to 3k will give the best downhill braking. Cool brakes along any big downhill grade = GOLDEN. Although I am not towing the weight you are , I have never had to lock in a gear, it does it automatically when I set cruise on the descent . Mine will hold the setting on the cruise within 5 mph over. If it takes shifting down it does it. If I want to come off a grade at say 45, I set it for 40, and that is where it stays at 45. It seems we are arriving at the same , with doing it a different way.
cummins2014 01/26/20 10:15am Tow Vehicles
RE: timbrens

I HAD Timbrens,, I now have AirLift 5000.. Not sure I would go back to Timbren Style... Although, I like the idea of being lazy and not wanting to air up and down each tow... In cab controls! Air compressor under along with air horns = GOLDEN. YUP... reached out to Airlift folks to see when they would have fitment info for the 2020, as they are not showing any. Was debating on putting the wireless in the new truck when it comes in Wireless is the only way to go , I run the Airlift 72000 Compressor system. No air lines ,electrical etc inside the cab, just the remote control. And the nice thing about it ,not at the mercy of whatever a OE system wants to do. Complete control of air pressure ,ride height etc. I THINK the newer sets nay have an app on the phone ? That would be nice It appears they do, googling the Airlift 72000, that would also be a nice feature. Although mine is just controlled by the remote control , it has memory settings, or just manual control, many times I have changed the pressure plus or minus 10 psi, and improved the ride. Lots of advantages to have control of just the air pressure on a air bag system.
cummins2014 01/26/20 09:50am Tow Vehicles
RE: timbrens

I HAD Timbrens,, I now have AirLift 5000.. Not sure I would go back to Timbren Style... Although, I like the idea of being lazy and not wanting to air up and down each tow... In cab controls! Air compressor under along with air horns = GOLDEN. YUP... reached out to Airlift folks to see when they would have fitment info for the 2020, as they are not showing any. Was debating on putting the wireless in the new truck when it comes in Wireless is the only way to go , I run the Airlift 72000 Compressor system. No air lines ,electrical etc inside the cab, just the remote control. And the nice thing about it ,not at the mercy of whatever a OE system wants to do. Complete control of air pressure ,ride height etc.
cummins2014 01/25/20 11:18am Tow Vehicles
RE: DirecTV or Dish

well AT&t set up my new receiver today it is a HR 24 thanks everyone for your input. Sounds like you stayed with DirecTV. Same happened with us, we just used an extra standard receiver from home for the fifth wheel . It was not a DVR. At home we have the DVR, which we could have taken with us when we traveled, but chose to get an up graded receiver the H24, which is basically the same as what we were using to travel with. It also has no recording ability, but thats not a problem for us. The problem now is any standard satellite dish is going to be obsolete in the near future, so the Winnegard Dome GM-1518 that we have is going to be just a paper weight . We will have to upgrade to a HD dish at some point. HD was never an issue in the fifth wheel the TV we have in there is older ,and not HD. It just keeps going, so we never seen the need to replace it ,just for the sake of HD.
cummins2014 01/24/20 09:20am Technology Corner
RE: timbrens

Thanks to everyone for the feedback... How about lower Stable Loads? I see they now have stainless steel version. not sure how they work? What is the reasoning getting away from air bags ??. Have ran two sets of aftermarket air bags Firestone ,and Airlift. They both have held up well, and worked equally well.
cummins2014 01/24/20 08:54am Tow Vehicles
RE: New truck batteries

Sad thing the Interstates I bought at Costco are Made in Mexico. You must be sad all the time with that Mexican truck :B
cummins2014 01/22/20 05:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: New truck batteries

Most every automotive batteries from the US are made by either Johnson Controls or Exide Technologies. Interstate and DieHard are made by Johnson as is Optima. IMO ,pick your brand. Walmart has as good a warranty as any for the cost of their batteries. 3 year free replacement ,and another 2 years prorated . 5 years for at least some type of replacement .
cummins2014 01/22/20 11:15am Tow Vehicles
RE: New truck batteries

I changed mine last year and put the Kirkland ones in from Costco. I've found them to be good quality, good price, and it's pretty tough to beat a 100 month warranty.... How did you get Kirkland? My Costco only carries 36 month Interstate. My last Kirkland had the 100 month and did well I'm in Canada and we can still get them here; hopefully the fact that they are apparently not available in the US anymore isn't an indication of things to come. The last Kirkland in my wife's Acura MDX went completely dead at about 5 years of age when the alternator went out. About 6 months later I noticed the car turning over slowly when starting; I bought a new Kirkland battery and took the old one in to get my core charge and was told at the counter that I still had warranty on it. It was a very nice surprise when I received almost 50% back of what the new battery cost me! :B Its been awhile since we have had the Kirkland brand batteries here in the states. They are Interstate batteries now. I wish they were still the Kirklands, but have yet to try the Interstates. I have a pair of Kirklands in my fifth wheel that are just over 10 years old ,and still going strong. Replaced my OE batteries in my 2014 Ram a couple months ago with the Walmart Everstarts , time will tell. :) Our local Costco did not carry the 94R for the Ram 3500 trucks, was told they don't always carry every size .
cummins2014 01/22/20 11:12am Tow Vehicles
RE: Break away cable

Just as you aren't supposed to attach the break away cable to the drawbar of a trailer hitch, I was under the impression that for a fifth wheel the cable is to be attached to the truck, and not any part of the hitch. The theory is that if ANY part of the fifth wheel hitch fails, by attaching the cable to the truck (like one of the tie down loops that is in the truck bed) the entire fifth wheel hitch could be completely torn out of the truck bed but the break away switch would still be activated- however ridiculous that seems. Now don't start confusing these experts on the right way to do it . :B Sure makes sense to be to be connected to something besides the hitch in case the hitch came loose.
cummins2014 01/08/20 08:08pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Washer/Dryer worth it?

We would rather have access to multiple machines and be done in an hour. The washer/dryer space in the 5th wheel is great storage space. Although we don't full time, thats kind of how we look at it. Our washer ,and dryer would be in the closest, as you go in the entry door, on our Montana fifth wheel, so nearly over the axles, so it wouldn't be like some up in the bedroom closest adding pin weight. Spending 2-4 months in ours a year ,my wife didn't want the onboard washer ,and dryer. This year we will probably be out more like 5 months.
cummins2014 01/06/20 12:01pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Keystone Montana for fulltiming??

" That is going to put a lot more stress on the tires, running gear and frame. For that kind of use the MORryde Independent Suspension System (IS) stands up much better than a leaf spring suspension." I HIGHLY advise the MORryde IS suspension, anything else running FullTime will not hold up!!! https://i.imgur.com/S3Df6xWl.jpg Thats a rather bold statement , had friends over yesterday, planning our Alaska trip starting in late May. They have been full timing now for 5 years with a 36' Big Country, conventional leaf spring suspension. Waiting to hear back from him on how many miles . They spent the entire summer ,and fall in the northeast this past year. They have traveled all over this country. Although I don't full time , I have a 12 year old Montana fifth wheel , that has a lot of miles on it. Only thing I have done to the suspension is replace the shear springs on the MorRyde LRE suspension, which is a wear item. Plus added the wet bolt kit early on . Still the stock leaf springs. Its going to get a few miles on it starting in mid Feb. to Arizona, and that state is pretty rough on suspension, pretty crappy roads , its been down there pretty much every year since new. Also it will get a pretty good workout on the Alaska trip , minimum of around 10K miles.
cummins2014 01/06/20 11:47am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel tire question

"How is that possible" Chalk it up to "Good Clean Livin" Had to be :B
cummins2014 01/01/20 10:54am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel tire question

Proper pressure for load set before each trip. Visual inspection and heat gun at every stop. At a minimum 100,000 towing miles with one tread separation and never a flat. How is that possible without a TPMS??? How is that possible ,extremely lucky. Had the same attitude until I lost a tire due to a road hazard, IMO If I would have had a TPMS I would of been warned ,and not have ruined the tire. The TST 507 I bought was cheaper then the tire I had to replace, and considering the other ran with all the weight on it, hard to say if it was damaged. I put another 1000 miles on it ,but decided to replace it also ,and make it a spare. The original spare was pretty old anyway.
cummins2014 01/01/20 10:10am Fifth-Wheels
RE: RV Crushes Truck

Turning the handle when closed is not locking it. The act of turning the handle is to prop it open for coupling, when you back into it correctly it contacts a mechanism that releases it to slide closed under spring tension. If the flange of the king pin does not interfere with the latch mechanism the handle will pop all the way in under spring tension. Putting a pin or padlock in it when in is locking it. I never saw it all the way in, in the early video's. I guess you didn't go back and watch, and listen to him at 14:55 of the third video . Its apparent he locked it manually . I don't care what its supposed to do , he locked it manual it was in the open position AFTER he backed in . If you listen to what he said, you might not want to keep insisting on what YOU think the hitch is supposed to do .
cummins2014 12/31/19 08:49pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: RV Crushes Truck

But in this case the OP did not close the hitch plain and simple. I am not sure that is a correct statement. When connected correctly the lever will go in all the way by it's self(it is spring loaded to be in). That is why when pulled out you turn it down to keep it open in preparation for coupling up. My Hi-Jacker worked in a similar way. If the King Pin is high then the head does not latch properly and the handle is still out part way, as it cannot pop into to the latched position. The lower larger area of the King Pin is interfering with the latch mechanism, which is one of the forms of high hitched. Chris " I am not sure that is a correct statement " Go back to the third video to 14:55, watch ,and listen to what he said. I don't know much about that hitch, but it sure appears he has to manually lock that hitch . Its apparent he locked it manually by turning the handle ,and in it went,and then he pinned it. Its possible after he backed in ,and it automatically closed , he pulled it open ,and locked it, and that was not shown. Then he showed making sure it was locked ,and pinned . But if you listen to him he plainly said that is something he didn't have to do with his other hitch, so to me he referring to having to manually lock that hitch. You tell me what you see ,and hear .
cummins2014 12/31/19 03:14pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: RV Crushes Truck

"Lets do this, yes it was high hitched , if thats what it will take, but in the classic sense , no it was not high hitched, but lets use that . My point was there was no gap ." Lets assume for argument that we have 4 extra slip discs. That will not allow the subject hitch or any hitch to latch. There will still not be a gap. I would call that a high hitch even though the pin is not on top of the jaws. But in this case the OP did not close the hitch plain and simple. It would not matter what hitch is used including the B&W it would result in a dropped trailer. Now it will be said that that can not happen with a B&W as the arm would be open. But if you look at this picture it is clear the subject arm was also in the locked open position. https://i.imgur.com/n0L2zFfl.jpg In this picture I believe you can see the pin just to the left of the jaw. You should not be able to see the pin when the hitch is closed and latched. https://i.imgur.com/OCPy6f5l.jpg There was nothing wrong with the hitch is was an operator error. The guy backed in correctly as far as we know, he pushed down on the hitch slightly, so again you call it high hitch, he!! I don't care what you call it. I get it why you want to call it high hitched, what other terminology would you use ,besides his total lack of awareness. Sure it was operator error, the hitch didn't malfunction. I sure hope thats obvious to everyone. They took the **** disk off ,and all was well.
cummins2014 12/31/19 02:30pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: RV Crushes Truck

Snip... Their is one fact here, he put a bind on the handle closing. The handle would not close, he pulled out ,and dropped the fifth wheel . I will repeat, saw it first hand in Montana two summers ago in a small RV park , same thing, except he realized his handle was not closing. The disk plate was banged up a little ,and was warped , holding it up just enough to put a bind on the handle. Took the disc off ,all was good. Handle closed ,and off he went. . I glad the you acknowledge that to many slip discs can cause a high hitch condition. What we do not know is the full sequence, as the video is highly edited. RCMAN46's one photo shows what appears to be a sliding bar behind the king pin at some point in the sequence. Update: Part #3 is now available. Extra slip disc seemed to be causing the problem of not latching correctly, cause a higher than normal hitch up and create the uncoupling problems, when he finally got it hitched. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHsVk46MR_M&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR05m4NJHFSnmU0Ia2bpX0uYyieSzlk2qh04cmobtZPM0jY5_iId0JFk_IQ You may have to back it up to the beginning. Also, I can not find documentation on the older Husky 24K EZ Roller. However the latch handle does not have enough travel to be a true sliding bar hitch. Final concussion is that the extra slip disc caused it to be to high to latch correctly. Truly a case that a tug test would have exposed. Lets do this, yes it was high hitched , if thats what it will take, but in the classic sense , no it was not high hitched, but lets use that . My point was there was no gap . There was no seem to be the problem, the extra disc was the problem from the start. I don't need to back up from the beginning . I acknowledged early on that I saw it first hand in Montana a couple years ago, as far as that disc not letting the handle close, he was backing in, and actually pushing the truck down an inch or so ,just like he was supposed too, the handle just would not close all the way . If you will hear the guy in the video acknowledge that he backed in with the two together, at least he thought he did the first time. He made that comment in the third video. At that point the guy didn't know what he did. But he was aware that he needed to push the two together as he backed in. So in the classic sense there was no high hitching going on, where you are leaving a gap between hitch ,and pin box.
cummins2014 12/31/19 09:56am Fifth-Wheels
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