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RE: Puzzled by Refrigerator Problem

This test is NOT foolproof but works most of the time. Light the range stove top burners. Then Run the Furnace, the water heater and refer on LP. At the same time. Watch the Range burners as the various appliances come on. IF the flames on the range burners diminish or go out or pulsate, your LP regulator is bad. While there is an adjustment on the regulator, it is best to replace it. Doug
dougrainer 10/23/21 03:10pm Tech Issues
RE: Puzzled by Refrigerator Problem

IF the refer starts working on LP, then no problem. BUT, if it fails to cool correctly on LP but DOES when you plug into 120 volt, then you need the LP gas pressure checked. AS others mentioned, there is NO PILOT FLAME on your model. Just the regular flame. But, if your LP pressure is slightly LOW, then the cooling capacity is diminished. This will manifest in what you state is NOT a roaring flame. But, it is extremely difficult for anybody to just look a a Refer flame and state that the LP pressure is below spec. Doug
dougrainer 10/22/21 08:54am Tech Issues
RE: Replacement Battery Temp sensor

Trace has been discontinued for almost 20 years. They were a product of a Merger between Trace and Heart to form Xantrex. It is AMAZING that your Trace still functions. Trace had a lot of reliability problems with their RV Inverter/Chargers 20 years ago. I would contac Xantrex and give them your Trace Model number and see if they have a current replacement that will work with your Trace. What the Battery sensor does, is monitor the temp of the battery bank and drops the charge rate if the battery bank starts to get to hot. I would just unplug the Temp sensor until you figure out what to do. Most Inverter/Chargers, while they usually supply the temp sensor in the box, a lot of times, they were not really used. Doug
dougrainer 10/21/21 08:46am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Do you pay for winterizing?

A GOOD shop will charge depending on what is needed for winterizing. It all depends on the RV and what water equipment it has. We charge anywhere from a basic 1/2 hour ($75 for the type link the Poster provided)) to up to 2.0 hours ($300) for large Diesel Motorhomes that have a lot of extra water equipment. WE blow out all water lines including Refer Icemakers and water thru the door. Dishwashers/Washers/Aqua Hots(need special drain operation)/Water Filter systems(optional upgraded type systems). We install antifreeze in all P traps. We install Antifreeze in the Dishwasher/Washer drain pump systems. After Blow out on a Aqua Hot(hydronic type system), you MUST pump antifreeze thru the interior water coil to provide 100% protection from freezing. We do and I recommend Blow out for other than basic systems because Antifreeze is a pain to completely remove from Icemaker molds and washer systems without running LOTS of cycles. Doug
dougrainer 10/20/21 10:21am Tech Issues
RE: Replacement Battery Temp sensor

What makes you think they are bad? They just use 2 sided tape to hold them on the side of the battery case. You can also wedge them between 2 of the batteries to hold in place. Most stick on were Heart/Trace/Xantrex brand Inverters. The temp sensor is for the Inverter charge function. Doug
dougrainer 10/20/21 10:10am Class A Motorhomes
RE: UPGRADE to a larger LP tank ?

I will tell you, when a customer wanted to trade a Diesel Motorhome with a LP Genset, the trade was downgraded from 5k to 7k in price due to the LP genset. This is one upgrade that will help pay for itself. Doug
dougrainer 10/19/21 08:10am Class A Motorhomes
RE: UPGRADE to a larger LP tank ?

This is the current Onan small RV motorhome Diesel sets. Don't be fooled by when it states Gasoline half load. Doug QD 3200 AIR CONDITION CAPACITY: One 13,500 DIMENSIONS: L 30.2” W 17.3” H 18.0” WEIGHT: 205 lbs FUEL CONSUMPTION: GASOLINE HALF LOAD 0.40 Gal/h 0.30 Gal/h LPG QD 6000 AIR CONDITION CAPACITY: Two 15,000 DIMENSIONS: L 36.3” W 23.6” H 22.3” WEIGHT: 420 lbs FUEL CONSUMPTION: GASOLINE HALF LOAD 0.70 Gal/h 0.40 Gal/h LPG QD 8000 AIR CONDITION CAPACITY: Two 15,000 DIMENSIONS: L 36.3” W 23.6” H 22.3” WEIGHT: 420 lbs FUEL CONSUMPTION: GASOLINE HALF LOAD 1.02 Gal/h 0.49 Gal/
dougrainer 10/19/21 08:08am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Tiffin outstde storage doors

asking about adjustments on the coach side latch not the door side. For future reference, there is no such thing as coach side and door side. There is ROADSIDE and CURBSIDE. OR Drivers side and Passenger side. What are you trying to do? Adjust the tightness of the door when closed? Or trying to adjust the doors up or down to clear a Slide room or make them appear even from front to rear? Be advised that Tiffin door latches have a primary and a secondary latch like a Car door. A common problem is the door engages the primary but not the secondary and then appears(it is) loose and will move in and out slightly. If this is the case, you adjust the L bolt out slightly to allow the secondary latch to engage and hold the door tight. Doug
dougrainer 10/17/21 09:40am Class A Motorhomes
RE: UPGRADE to a larger LP tank ?

Doug .... how does that work rolling down the road ? NOW IF all I had to worry about was powering the frig and stove with LP .... no problem. But the gen is fueled by LP. And that consumes lots. Heating? .. don’t use that much at all but if you did ... you’d have to get the tank filled quite often ! You have found the BIG problem when OEM's use LP powered Gensets versus spending the money on a Diesel genset on a Diesel powered Motorhome. Since your handle states Land Yacht, I will bet you have a 1990 to 1995 or so Land Yacht Diesel. Back then, Diesel RV Gensets were very expensive and OEM's installed LP powered Gensets to lower the cost. Also, some models of Diesel Motorhomes could not be configured with the size and design of that era Diesel Gensets. Some older Airstreams(1980 to about 1985) motorhomes, not Land Yachts, had 2 ASME LP tanks. A LARGE tank that held about 28 gallons liquid LP on the drivers side and a smaller tank about 10 gallons on the passenger side. The large tank powered the LP genset. FYI, these Airstreams used a Isuzu Diesel engine on a Chevy chassis. So, the Extend a stay ONLY works when camped. Then you have to have a way to safely transport the cylinder. ANY type ASME tank you will be able to find that will be larger will probably only increase your LP by at most 10 gallons. Not feasable for the cost. Doug
dougrainer 10/15/21 06:51pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Dometic RM2351 Fridge Not Cooling on Gas

Hey John and Kathy, no, its not in a slide. Both the intake venting and the discharge venting are through the side wall of the travel trailer. This is one problem. Lower and Upper Side vents are NOT the best way to exhaust hot convection air on a refer. When you have upper side vent doors it is best to install a small 12 volt fan blowing OUT the door. This will help remove the hot air after it moves thru the Condensor fins. Normal RV refers(the majority) have a roof vent and this allows the hot air to flow up and out with great ease. So, install that fan. Also a minor drop in LP pressure will have a GREAT effect on RV cooling. Normal pressure is 11.5 inches Water Column(WC). If below 10.5, you will notice lack of correct cooling and there is NO WAY TO DETERMINE PRESSURE WITHOUT A MANOMETER. Just looking at the flame will not tell you anything. Just buy a Manometer for the $50. It will be a great tool to have when RV'ing and you will be a hit with campers and friends if they know you have one. Doug
dougrainer 10/15/21 12:50pm Tech Issues
RE: Handling “hard dried stuff” in the black tank ?

I would shut the tank valve boil as much water as possible and pour that hot water with the rid x. Try to get at least 20 gallons of hot water and let sit for a few days. Hopefully that will break up the poop and get it into suspension to then drain out and flush. Doug Why not dump 20 gallons of boiling water and a $10 bill down the turlet? The hot water will kill off the bacteria in the rid X, which is @ $10 a box, and even when active without boiling it to death will do nothing in something with a small volume such as an RV HOLDING tank. May as well use the $10 bill and save the cost and time of running out to buy the rid-X. OK smart #ss. I posted a solution. What is your solution? Doug Fill it with water and let it sit, then flush it out with a wand, and bacflow valve fitting, then buy a 6 pack with the $10 which is a much better use for it. Poop is not concrete. It has completely different properties and can not be used to pour a highway driving surface or a bridge abutment. I just went thru ALL Rid X operational uses including the FAQ section. There is NOTHING in the Rid X literature that states using hot water will harm or do anything to the Rid X. The Reason I stated Boiling/Hot water is to help melt the solids in the bottom of the holding tank, to allow the Rid X to do a better job. Doug
dougrainer 10/14/21 11:47am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Handling “hard dried stuff” in the black tank ?

I would shut the tank valve boil as much water as possible and pour that hot water with the rid x. Try to get at least 20 gallons of hot water and let sit for a few days. Hopefully that will break up the poop and get it into suspension to then drain out and flush. Doug Why not dump 20 gallons of boiling water and a $10 bill down the turlet? The hot water will kill off the bacteria in the rid X, which is @ $10 a box, and even when active without boiling it to death will do nothing in something with a small volume such as an RV HOLDING tank. May as well use the $10 bill and save the cost and time of running out to buy the rid-X. OK smart #ss. I posted a solution. What is your solution? Doug
dougrainer 10/14/21 10:21am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Handling “hard dried stuff” in the black tank ?

I guess you learned your lesson the Hard way:) You either are full time and leave the black and gray tank valves open or when camped you also left the valves open. NEVER EVER DO THAT. Look up Poop Pyramid in google. I would shut the tank valve boil as much water as possible and pour that hot water with the rid x. Try to get at least 20 gallons of hot water and let sit for a few days. Hopefully that will break up the poop and get it into suspension to then drain out and flush. Doug
dougrainer 10/13/21 10:30am Class A Motorhomes
RE: UPGRADE to a larger LP tank ?

Just get an extend a stay and then purchase a 100lb LP cylinder. Doug https://www.campingworld.com/stay-longer-propane-adapter-kit-82583.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=%7bCampaign%7d&gclid=CjwKCAjwh5qLBhALEiwAioods0AkL2Y2IUY1Lj-gr7AAqqsk3E5libEAsrXG4IKpIfcDZDzRFIWOTRoCuBIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/manchester-tank-equipments-100-steel-dot-vertical-lp-cylinder-equipped-with-pol-valve
dougrainer 10/13/21 10:25am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Purchasing a RV in another state

Go down to your local County Tax office and get a 30 day temp plate. Texas offer this. Doug TxDMV issues a 30-Day Permit for the temporary movement of a vehicle subject to Texas registration laws. A 30-Day Permit is valid for a period of 30 days from the effective date reflected on the permit. No more than three 30-Day Permits will be issued per vehicle.
dougrainer 10/12/21 12:06pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: New motor home blues…

Onan Gas Gensets use about 1 qt per 50 hours. 1 qt low is enough to shut down the Oil pressure kill switch. Which SAVES the genset from being destroyed. Doug
dougrainer 10/12/21 09:10am Class A Motorhomes
RE: New motor home blues…

Hate to pile on your bad news. BUT, IF the line is to a jack, LCI jacks are Power EXTEND and Power RETRACT. That means you have to run the Power unit to retract the jacks, which will mean more fluid loss and possibly lack of retraction on the 4 jacks. There should be in the unit a 1800 number Tiffin supplies for emergency road service in the first year. That sticker used to be on the drivers side front overhead. Not sure where Tiffin puts it now. There should also be that contac info in the large Tiffin owners manual packet. Doug
dougrainer 10/09/21 09:38am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Intellitec Bd2 replacement

You can do the upgrade which has the adapter harness. OR, just go to the Intellitec Solenoid and jump the wiring between the 2 LARGE battery posts. That will bypass the disconnect solenoid. Use a heavy 6 gauge jumper wire with ring terminals. Have you tried E Bay for that panel? Doug If you have the BD2 that means you have 2 solenoids. Chassis and Coach. If BOTH will not close and allow power, bypass both.
dougrainer 10/07/21 09:14pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Bot Dometic A/C’s (Pink run off on roof)

Some plants are growing inside AC units. You can cut them off properly. It will cause any short circuit and internal problems. I have also seen plants on my Air Conditioner Unit. Due to lack of time, I could not cut them off, and one day my air conditioner stopped working. Curious, I have been working on RV roof AC units for 42 years and NEVER have I seen plants or such inside a AC unit. HOW would a plant get inside a roof AC unit 12 feet off the ground? And, where would it get dirt and nutrients to grow and live?????? Doug
dougrainer 10/07/21 09:38am Tech Issues
RE: Holiday Rambler Navigator HWH control panel location

Once you locate it, they are no longer available if defective. You have to send it back to HWH for repair. HWH, CAN repair them. Doug
dougrainer 10/04/21 12:41pm Class A Motorhomes
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