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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
"Reason I find it so ridiculous when skeptics are speculating Cybertruck's power drain based on Tesla X -- I'm about the scream, dude, there are already semis out there pulling 80,000 pounds and getting 500 miles range."
All I want after reading this is physical proof. Not that picture from a year ago with the semi sitting there with concrete barriers on it. I want to see an actual weight scale ticket and proof of mileage. And maybe even a new semi instead of those two old, tired examples.
Until then it's all just so much wishful thinking.
Our wishful thinking has at least some basis. This is the same techies called disruptors who moved the needle on EV from 30-mile range into 300. The same people who can make your home in the boondocks totally off-grid and not dependent on polluting carbon-based energy. The same people who revolutionized rocket science with reusable space vehicle and managed to have a rocket landing on a barge (analogy is that of threading a needle from 10 floors up on a gale).
So what do you have as basis other than ignorant heckling?I don't mean to heckle, but you keep putting out this speculative verbiage as if it were a fact. I merely keep pointing out that it isn't a fact yet, it may be someday, but not right now. If you'll quit citing this stuff as facts, and not conjecture, I'll stop "heckling".
Yes, but will it be too much to ask for a little more brain cells into your posts a support to your argument a "linear regression of battery technology to explain why EVs can't extend anymore range or cannot tow long range"?
At least provide a cerebral counter-argument to those who have almost done a thesis on the realities of exponential progression on technologies of electric vehicles.I give up, you don't read, or maybe you read but don't comprehend. Either way, it's just a waste of electrons. Thesis, riiiiiight.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 09:34pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Warranty work on TT v 5r v MH
I think part of the reasons for few posts about MH issues, is that I believe there are fewer people who can, or want to, work on their MH. Seems like more trailer and 5th wheel owners do their own small warranty work rather than hassle with taking it back to the dealer for every little thing. With the money output for a big MH, I bet many owners will pass on doing any warranty fixes on their own due to the overall complexity. JMO of course.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 08:32pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: It is no wonder
I have had it pop up a couple times, but one click and done. No biggie.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 08:26pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Chucking....is it the trailer or the truck?
"That apples to apples comparison probably doesn't sit well with the B&W fan club."
Shoot, sounds like us B&W fanboys will love it, since he comments on how well the B&W hitch worked for him. I mean the only reason he gave to get rid of it was it was slightly under rated for his trailer.
Quote: "The B&W worked and gave us a good ride."
Tough to argue with a good review.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 08:22pm |
Towing
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
"Reason I find it so ridiculous when skeptics are speculating Cybertruck's power drain based on Tesla X -- I'm about the scream, dude, there are already semis out there pulling 80,000 pounds and getting 500 miles range."
All I want after reading this is physical proof. Not that picture from a year ago with the semi sitting there with concrete barriers on it. I want to see an actual weight scale ticket and proof of mileage. And maybe even a new semi instead of those two old, tired examples.
Until then it's all just so much wishful thinking.
Our wishful thinking has at least some basis. This is the same techies called disruptors who moved the needle on EV from 30-mile range into 300. The same people who can make your home in the boondocks totally off-grid and not dependent on polluting carbon-based energy. The same people who revolutionized rocket science with reusable space vehicle and managed to have a rocket landing on a barge (analogy is that of threading a needle from 10 floors up on a gale).
So what do you have as basis other than ignorant heckling?I don't mean to heckle, but you keep putting out this speculative verbiage as if it were a fact. I merely keep pointing out that it isn't a fact yet, it may be someday, but not right now. If you'll quit citing this stuff as facts, and not conjecture, I'll stop "heckling".
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 02:47pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
"Reason I find it so ridiculous when skeptics are speculating Cybertruck's power drain based on Tesla X -- I'm about the scream, dude, there are already semis out there pulling 80,000 pounds and getting 500 miles range."
All I want after reading this is physical proof. Not that picture from a year ago with the semi sitting there with concrete barriers on it. I want to see an actual weight scale ticket and proof of mileage. And maybe even a new semi instead of those two old, tired examples.
Until then it's all just so much wishful thinking.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 12:55pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
So you're saying the same engineers who design rockets are designing the Teslas pickup? I would think: "Not likely", after all designing cars isn't rocket science. HAR!
Did you say that NASA images and videos from satellites are fake ?I don't believe I ever said anything like that in this thread. Or if I did could you point it out.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 10:37am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.
I don’t see a “real pickup” as having anywhere near the facility as the cybertruck is projected to have with the exception of a “real pickup” being able to tow a fifth wheel or if you need a long box. But different people need pickups to do different things so there will be a market for the old stuff for a while yet. Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years.Interesting that the RV market seems to be booming while you're asserting that it's doing the opposite. Unlikely that both can be happening. And you're merely reflecting wishful thinking I'm afraid.
And a "real pickup" has a bed separate from the cab so it can flex and not damage the structural integrity of the vehicle. With no such flexibility, the Tesla truck would be susceptible to damage if loaded with an unequal heavy load. As I said, grocery getters and soccer moms won't be bothered with that issue. There actually are reasons behind some design parameters. Ever watch the movement between the bed and cab when there is a serious load in the truck bed? Just because you wish it so, doesn't make it so.
My 08 Silverado doesnt flex at all with full load on,
so that argument about necesary flex doesnt fly.
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Id think Tesla engineers who also design Space X rockets know enough on how to build Unibody Exoskeleton with that hard 30x SSteel to make it strong enough not to flex or damage under any loadSo you're saying the same engineers who design rockets are designing the Teslas pickup? I would think: "Not likely", after all designing cars isn't rocket science. HAR!
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 07:08am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Seriously, have you seen the specs and capabilities of Cybertruck compared side-by-side with El Camino?
Are we comparing a vehicle that has been out of production for a long time to one that has never been in production?
Oops, not my statement, I may have quoted that, but it was written by someone else.
But a good point made.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 07:03am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Warranty work on TT v 5r v MH
It seems to me that the MH will be more liable to have issues simply because of the complexity. If you include "tow vehicle and trailer/5th wheel", then that might change the odds.
When we picked up our 5th wheel, the dealer had a campground where you could stay. The place was nearly full of MH waiting to be worked on. We talked to some and a couple had been there for a week or two, and one guy had to come back in a month or so because they were waiting on parts. It seemed that most of the issues were electric/electronic in origin. That's why I tend to lean towards the MH being the most likely to have problems.
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fj12ryder
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12/05/19 06:56am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
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I have no idea what the industry is going. But large fifth wheels are a small part of the RV industry where we live. No idea anywhere else. Most people want to go weekend camping at the local lakes where we live. Most common truck is an F150 or equivalent.Making sweeping statements on what direction the industry is headed by basing your experience on local conditions, is probably not very accurate.
Probably sticking the acronym "IMO" in front of statements like "Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years." would be a good idea.
That would let everyone know that it's not a fact-based statement, but only your opinion.
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fj12ryder
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12/04/19 01:58pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
"Seriously, when did you see that paper figures, almost always conservative, did not hold or even exceeded by actual performance?"
Uh, is that even a serious question? A better question would be "When did you see that paper figures, almost always conservative, actually did match actual performance?"
It's been my experience that copy writers and engineers rarely converse before the marketers start writing their copy.
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fj12ryder
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12/04/19 01:53pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.
Seriously, have you seen the specs and capabilities of Cybertruck compared side-by-side with El Camino?
By your logic, would not that mean that the F150s, Rams, etc. that never gets deployed on a work job or farm are also not "real pick up"?Seriously have you seen the "Cybertruck" perform side-by-side with an El Camino? When you have please report back. Paper figures are just that, and anybody can put anything on paper.
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fj12ryder
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12/04/19 12:37pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.
I don’t see a “real pickup” as having anywhere near the facility as the cybertruck is projected to have with the exception of a “real pickup” being able to tow a fifth wheel or if you need a long box. But different people need pickups to do different things so there will be a market for the old stuff for a while yet. Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years.Interesting that the RV market seems to be booming while you're asserting that it's doing the opposite. Unlikely that both can be happening. And you're merely reflecting wishful thinking I'm afraid.
And a "real pickup" has a bed separate from the cab so it can flex and not damage the structural integrity of the vehicle. With no such flexibility, the Tesla truck would be susceptible to damage if loaded with an unequal heavy load. As I said, grocery getters and soccer moms won't be bothered with that issue. There actually are reasons behind some design parameters. Ever watch the movement between the bed and cab when there is a serious load in the truck bed? Just because you wish it so, doesn't make it so.
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fj12ryder
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12/04/19 12:36pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.
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fj12ryder
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12/04/19 10:46am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
I am and I thank this forum for the Benjamin Button moment.
But you must have mistaken me for someone else. I don't own a truck yet and therefore not in that exercise.
I am the one with the ill-gotten wealth from Tesla stocks waiting for their notice that I can already pick up my Cybertruck. And then maybe, I can then participate in their nah, nah, nah...thingy.
Now, try to read, remember and keep up before you open your trap, will yah?:BActually I have no idea what you own, or anything about you because I simply don't keep track. I merely commented on the last couple of really juvenile posts. Sorry, you just don't register on my radar.
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fj12ryder
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12/03/19 05:35pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: digital photo storage
"Department of Redundancy Department trained"
:W You'd get a thumbs-up if they had the emoticon.
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fj12ryder
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12/03/19 03:55pm |
Around the Campfire
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RE: Tesla Cybertruck
Just curious if you children are trying to get this thread shut down. This looks something you'd see on a 13 year old's Facebook page.
Yep!
Actually, I was in 5th grade when this last happened. And there was no FB yet.
Naturally ended with a fist fight. My face got bloodied but you should have seen the other guy.;)
And my dad seeing me only asked one question: Who won?So, you've regressed to 5th grade? Maybe you could work at going beyond "Nyah, nyah, my truck's better than your truck", and move into a grownup-type discussion.
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fj12ryder
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12/03/19 03:51pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: You may have shocks but are they mounted right.
"But without a play, it's basically useless."
Whaaaaa?
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fj12ryder
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12/03/19 03:47pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: You may have shocks but are they mounted right.
I’ll point out that there are shocks meant to be installed horizontally, though tases obviously are not, but the lack of travel is inexcusable- it should never bottom out on the shock.Yeah, horizontal shocks will work if they're designed for the position, and there is the correct linkage. Many motorcycle shocks are mounted horizontally, with the corresponding linkage to work correctly.
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fj12ryder
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12/03/19 01:41pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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