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RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

While I was at it, I also picked up another tube of hardener for the fiberglass resin. Somehow, I ran out of hardener slightly before I ran of out the first gallon of resin. When I am mixing up smaller batches of resin, it's tough to get the exact amount of hardener mixed with the resin. I usually mix close to a pint at a time. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/fiberglassresinhardener.jpg
fulltimin 08/19/19 08:29pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

While I was there, I picked up more fiberglass mat. 5 more packs to be exact. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/fiberglasscloth4.jpg
fulltimin 08/19/19 08:29pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

In addition to working for my niece today, we also went shopping for more stuff to work on the motor home. I've decided to try some of the little white foam rollers, as was suggested, (thank you), so I picked up a pack today. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/paintrollers4.jpg
fulltimin 08/19/19 08:28pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

YeeHaw! Got the check from the insurance company today! Wahoo! Also, the second PT passed inspection last week, and emissions today! That means we have our replacement PT cruiser. The same only different. This one is blue instead of Tan/Gold in color. What does that mean? We have more money now than we did before the accident. Go figure! (Can you say, extra motor home money)? It did help that I had that one sitting here, even though it wasn't running. Lol. So, after I remove a couple of more parts from Wrinkles, I'll then send it to the scrap yard, and get a few bucks back from that. Overall, it looks like we'll come out of this pretty well.
fulltimin 08/19/19 08:27pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Wahoo! What a day. You know, one of those days when everything you do suddenly goes right, and you get more accomplished than you originally set out to do! YeHaw! Unfortunately, none of that had anything to do with the motor home. We finished up the day with a strong thunderstorm. The wind gusts here were probably about the worst I have ever seen. Took the neighbors tree down. We lost 2 of 3 porch posts. Fortunately, the third one was in the center of the roof, so it all stayed in place. Could have been much worse, so we're not all that upset. Little bit of clean up going to happen tomorrow. I don't think that will take all that long, just a minor inconvenience. Not as significant as having the car totaled. Hey, it's all good. It's just stuff. that's easy to fix. I should be able to get some motor home work done tomorrow, hopefully. Sorry for the lousy update. Have a great day! One more observation on the fiberglass. The edges are sharp. Pay attention! Lol. Ouch.
fulltimin 08/18/19 09:48pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Finally, here's the pic of both of them just waiting to harden. Hey, there's only so many layers of fiberglass needed to finish this project, and every one I add bring me a little closer to finishing the wells. Wahoo. I am ready to move on to do some woodworking. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellfiberglass3.jpg
fulltimin 08/17/19 09:32pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

I then moved on to the piece that is fiberglass only, that I have been working on for way too long. I also added another layer to the center of this one also. Yes, I ran out of resin with just a small area to finish, and decided, I'll deal with it tomorrow, instead of mixing such a small amount of resin to finish this little area. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellfiberglass.jpg
fulltimin 08/17/19 09:32pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Couple of observations on using fiberglass and resin. Probably about the time I am finished with the wheel wells, I will have finally acquired enough knowledge and experience, that I should have had at the beginning of the job. Lol. That's pretty much true of most any first time diy project. I am getting better at working the fiberglass into the corners with the resin and getting the fiberglass to lay flat. Using a little extra resin seems to work better than not having quite enough. It definitely is better to work with lesser amounts of resin at a time, and then mix extra to finish what you are doing. I worked on both wheel wells today instead of just one. The first one is the one that I am glassing over top of the plywood. I covered the center area with a 2 feet wide piece. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellfiberglass2.jpg
fulltimin 08/17/19 09:31pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

The second pic is of the opposite side, and has some glass covering nearly all of the side and down over the side, (bottom, in actual use), (yellow arrow). Once the resin soaks the glass, it nearly becomes invisible. The center section, has been coated with Por 15 and canvas cloth. I'll just cover that up with the fiberglass and resin. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellbox6.jpg Very nearly done with the replacement Pt Cruiser, so next week I hope to spend more time in the moho.
fulltimin 08/16/19 09:35pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Next is to apply some glass fabric on the inside and then smooth out some resin over top of the fabric. The first pic has fabric and resin covering most but not quite all of the inside of the one side. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellbox5.jpg
fulltimin 08/16/19 09:35pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

I decided to move on to the wooden wheel well pattern that I made, and start adding some fiberglass and resin to it. What I am going to do is to enclose the wood with a few layers of fiberglass, both inside and outside. First is to prop the pattern up with a couple of 3' clamps so I could work on the inside of the sides. Much nicer this way than it is working on a total vertical surface. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwellbox4.jpg
fulltimin 08/16/19 09:34pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Wahoo!!! Got the A/C working on the Pt today. Supposed to be in the 90's beginning of the week. That's good, since we had to return the rental today.
fulltimin 08/16/19 09:34pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Spreadsheet time. Another gallon of Por, @ $152.09 adding to our prior total of $7747.36 and our new grand total is now $7899.45. Did you know the gray Por is cheaper on Amazon than the Clear? Yea, about $18.00 less. Yes, I was working on the Pt Cruiser today. Leaving a vehicle sitting outside for a couple of years doesn't fair well for a few parts. Fortunately, I have a spare parts car that has everything I need, and won't cost me any money to use said parts. It does require some time, though. That's ok, if I can get a number of extra years out of this one, I'll be a happy camper. After trying to get in and out of a 2019 Vw Jetta, (insurance rental), I'm glad to get back into the Pt. Don't get me wrong, the Jetta is a nice car, and will do better on gas mileage than the Pt will, but, I need a shoe horn to get in and out of it, with a helmet to protect my head. If I was 5' 4" tall, and weighed 140 lbs, it would be a nice fit. But I dunt! (that's Ricky talk).
fulltimin 08/15/19 09:50pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

I checked with Amazon a few days ago about my order of Por 15 that ended up being "damaged during delivery", and they sent me another gallon. Here it is. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/por15clear2.jpg If you have noticed, this is a can of "Clear" Por. I've often thought of really messing with people, and use this on a piece of really rusty steel, and then apply a top coat of "Clear" Por 15 as well. That means the steel would appear rusty. Even though it would be fully protected, it would still look rusty. What a concept. Lol. Looks like it should have a use somewhere for that. Ok, maybe not. Home made bread - $.059 including electric to bake it in a bread machine. Eating home made bread - Priceless!
fulltimin 08/15/19 09:50pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Two pieces of flat iron set to proper angle and welded would provide your need. Yea, but I don't like to weld. Ah, come on, that's funny! After all the hundreds or thousands of welds I've already done, what's a few more? Lol..... I know, some of you are sitting there shaking your head. "What's wrong with this guy"? Lol. I just thought I'd throw that out there. Hope everybody saw the humor in it.
fulltimin 08/15/19 09:48pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

I added another layer of fiberglass and resin today. It's starting to get smoother and thicker, as well as stonger. The pic looks not very great, but the grooves are actually on the back side of the glass, and I intend to fill them in and smooth them out before calling this complete. It is definitely getting much stronger with each coat. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/wheelwell18.jpg I gotta start doing some other work and finishing up with the fiberglass later in the day. Couple of things I have learned with the glass. It takes longer than you think. Lol. That's pretty much true with almost any project. Using a little more resin seems to make things smoother, and thicker, faster. The smell is the same, whether you use a little or a lot. Yes, I used a respirator, but, Ya gotta take it off sometime. Lol. Anyhow, I had to spend a little more time on the Cruiser today, and probably will tomorrow, but, that should soon end, and I'll get moving a little faster here shortly. Wahoo!
fulltimin 08/14/19 09:58pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Kind of what I had figured. I guess if I am going to bend that, I'll have to come up with something myself. Not sure that's going to happen. If I can't come up with anything, I may have to do something differently. I want to fasten the small roof overhang to the side of the wall framing at the top. The guys that did my facia and gutters when I had my roof replaced had a sheet metal brake that was 20' long. Now what they were bending was some pretty thin aluminum, but if you do not require structural strength from your junction piece, then you might be able to find a gutter/facia guy who could do some bending for you. Well, I suppose if I had them bend enough of layers, that would give me the strength I want. Lol. Drawing below is what I am trying to accomplish. The green angle is where I wanted to put the steel/aluminum and fasten it to both the roof plywood and the upper side wall. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/rooftosidewall.jpg The purpose is to make sure the plywood would be straight running between the joists from front to rear. The second function was to be able to attach brackets to hold solar panels that I plan on putting on the roof. I am probably too paranoid about putting holes in the roof, but I figured if I attach brackets at the end of the roof plywood, I could eliminate another place for leakage. (Silly, I know). As such, it's kinda structural, and yet not really for the overall roof to sidewall connection. More so for the solar mounts.
fulltimin 08/14/19 09:57pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

This is the other side of the wheel well. I added a section on the side, and also on the bottom. The darkened areas are where the new cloth and resin are. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/fiberglasswheelwell5.jpg Got the Pt Cruiser back today. Passed inspection, but not emissions. The car hasn't been driven enough since I put the battery in to set the computer for the test. We'll have to drive it for a few days and take it back so the garage can run the emissions test. That means we should have another Pt Cruiser to drive! Yay!
fulltimin 08/13/19 09:30pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

I took a little time today and worked on the fiberglass wheel well a little bit. There was an area on the one corner that didn't suit me, so I got the grinder out and cut out that section a little bit. That's the cool thing with fiberglass. If you get an area that doesn't suit you, just grind it out, and fill it in with more cloth and resin, or epoxy. After a couple of coats, looks good as new. Here's the corner I worked on. Looks better than it did, but probably still could be better. http://paddleupstream.com/mohorebuild/fiberglasswheelwell4.jpg
fulltimin 08/13/19 09:25pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Unless you are going to start with flat stock and weld them to the required angle, no. You will be hard pressed to find a shear/bender longer than 48". Most cheap benders will only do 90 degrees without a jig to go farther. Then if it is anything thicker than sheet metal, it may facture due to how it is made. You could try the Armstrong method, but it may not be a good look, or uniform. Kind of what I had figured. I guess if I am going to bend that, I'll have to come up with something myself. Not sure that's going to happen. If I can't come up with anything, I may have to do something differently. I want to fasten the small roof overhang to the side of the wall framing at the top.
fulltimin 08/13/19 09:24pm Class A Motorhomes
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