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RE: Curb weight of flat bed vs. a regular bed?

Let's put it this way....how many F150 have you seen with a flatbed? The steel substructure structure on a flatbed outweighs the bed of a regular truck. Yeah I'm thinking aluminum flat bed and no bells and whistles. Hopefully the bed is also strong enough to have a truck camper put on.
iwanttoretireearly 05/15/20 11:10pm Truck Campers
Curb weight of flat bed vs. a regular bed?

I'm getting more interested in buying a regular truck camper made for a regular pick up truck BUT putting it on a flat bed pickup truck. This is what this couple did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BwGijULZt0 The pros of this strategy is you get to build a bunch of storage boxes on the sides where the left and right walls of a normal pickup truck bed would be. The couple in this video had a stainless steel bed which dramatically increased their curb weight. Normally, do flat beds have more or less curb weight than a regular bed?
iwanttoretireearly 05/15/20 06:07pm Truck Campers
RE: How inconvenient is a cargo trailer?

How many of you tow a cargo trailer with your truck camper? I have two cargo trailers: 8.5x20 and a 7x12 I also had a flatbed trailer for my Jeep when I was doing the Jeep thing. Here's my big trailer, the 8.5 x 20 Race Trailer I'm thinking of a 10 foot enclosed cargo trailer that will accompany me on longer road trips. Any 6' wide trailer is a PITA to back up because you can't see it behind the truck and camper until it's too crooked to straighten out. Any 10' long trailer is a PITA to back up. Because it's so short, it jack-knifes in a heartbeat because you can't see it behind the truck and camper. When I bought my truck and camper back in 2009, I sold a 6x10 and bought a 6x12. I kept the 6x12 from 2010-2014. I started using it for other things, not camping trips, where I wanted more space so I sold it and planned on getting a 7x14. Instead, my brother let me use his 7x16 for the things I was needing a bigger trailer for (not camping). I hated that trailer because it rode so rough and was bouncy due to the leaf spring axles. (My trailers all have torsion axles) I also didn't like the length because I couldn't pull in a parking lot and park in two parking spaces. The trailer was too long and hung out at the end. I used his trailer from 2014-2016 for my non camping needs, then the need for a bigger small trailer fizzled away, so I never bought a 7x14 as planned. From 2014-2017, I kept used my 8.5x20 for camping. It's an awesome mobile garage. Mid 2018 I started going on a few local trips without the 8.5x20, where I didn't need my motorcycles. I was just doing quick weekend get-aways. It killed me not having a trailer for a generator, firewood, lawn chair or other small things, so late that year I found 6x10 Wells Cargo similar to the one I sold in 2010. It was too good of a deal to pass up, plus it had torsion axles, which I explain in this video when I put a lift kit on it. The 6x10 was cheap enough, I didn't care that it was small and hard to back up at first. Fast forward to June 2019 and I started looking at bigger trailers again - 7x12 new ones with Torsion Axles, then a friend told me about a friend of his that was selling a 7x12. I bought it, and couldn't be happier with it. It was also too good of a deal to pass up. It has torsion axles. Here's the 7x12 I bought last year which is my primary trailer now. For example: a) How do you deal with parking in busy lots? You just park farther away? You park the trailer and then the truck? Sometimes there isn't going to be enough room to maneuver right? Trailer or no trailer, truck and camper, or daily driving my Subaru Crosstrek, I ALWAYS park out in the back 40 when I go shopping. Not sure what you mean by "You park the trailer and then the truck?" The trailer says attached to my truck when I'm going places. As far as space to maneuver, parking lots have never been an issue. I survey the situation and don't put myself in to situations "beyond the point of no return" (place where there isn't room to maneuver) It's like a 6th sense because I've been towing for so long (since 1993 when I bought the first 6x10 I had). Not many people started towing trailers when they were only 25 years old like me. b) Let's say you are on a road trip and want to go into a NPS where they do not allow vehicles past a certain length. Where do you leave your trailer? Leave the trailer at the campground is one option. Sometimes National Parks might have a spot where you could leave a trailer while touring the park. The only park I have encountered with a length / height / width limitation is Glacier National Park, on the Going to the Sun road. I was on my motorcycle on that trip, not camping with the truck and camper. One of the parks in Utah has limitations too, Zion I think. If I were in one of those parks and needed to use my truck to get around the park, I'd probably drop the camper off the truck for the day, with the trailer behind the camper (blocked in). But the reality is, I'd probably ride my motorcycle around the park, which is exactly what I did last year when I went to Crater Lake. c) How do you secure your trailer? I have never left my trailer anywhere and taken the truck and camper to drive around, so the trailer is blocked in by the truck. The truck, camper and trailer are my base camp for my motorcycle adventures. I do have a coupler lock for the trailer though. I honestly wouldn't waste the money on a 6x10 because they are so hard to back up. People always say "go one size bigger than you think you will need, then you won't need to upgrade in two years." Once you have a trailer you will realize how versatile it is and wish you had more space. A good example is shown in this video about my EU6500 in my 7x12 trailer.. It never leaves the trailer! I love the 7x12. I can see it when backing up, the length isn't a hindrance in parking lots because it (and the truck) fits in two spaces. It's short enough where I can basically drive like there's no trailer behind me when making turns. Sorry this was so long, I didn't expect it to be as long as this. I've been towing for so long, so many different trailers, so many places, it's a thoughtless process. Of course you're not going to park at the front of the parking lot. But then, why would one anyhow? Simple trick; always, always, park so that you can pull out regardless of where others park/block. I'm amazed at seeing folks with trailers pull in across 6 spots and then not wing it to insure that they can get out if two idiots parked on either end of them (boxed). Simple stuff. The above summarizes things quite well!! Adapt and overcome! If you are shopping for a new trailer, I'd recommend Torsion Axles if you can find them. They might be a special order at some dealers. Torsion axles trailers ride so much smoother, and your cargo doesn't get beat up. I can drive 500 miles of highway, etc, and nothing moves inside my trailers. Truly amazing response! Thanks so much @deltabravo
iwanttoretireearly 05/12/20 02:23pm Truck Campers
RE: How inconvenient is a cargo trailer?

Thanks for all the replies everyone. Ok so it seems like most people can get to campgrounds in NPS just fine and have the option of disconnecting it. What if you want to go to an off-roading campground? Where can you leave a trailer?
iwanttoretireearly 05/05/20 02:43pm Truck Campers
How inconvenient is a cargo trailer?

How many of you tow a cargo trailer with your truck camper? And how do you deal with the challenges of lugging it along? I'm thinking of a 10 foot enclosed cargo trailer that will accompany me on longer road trips. For example: a) How do you deal with parking in busy lots? You just park farther away? You park the trailer and then the truck? Sometimes there isn't going to be enough room to maneuver right? b) Let's say you are on a road trip and want to go into a NPS where they do not allow vehicles past a certain length. Where do you leave your trailer? c) How do you secure your trailer?
iwanttoretireearly 05/04/20 01:57pm Truck Campers
RE: The shorter the center of gravity, the better right?

Most short bed campers do not fit to the front of the bed. They try to make up for lost inside space due to their short length by filling out the bed area behind the wheelwells and/or extending the rear of the camper. Most will hang off the rear of a longbed just as much as the rear of a shortbed. interesting... good to know
iwanttoretireearly 04/29/20 10:55pm Truck Campers
Isotherm fridge in camper?

Isotherm fridges are quite common in modern day vanlifers but not in the RV industry. Is it just because of the price point? I see it on the 590k Overlander but that doesnt count. Has anyone had experience replacing their 3 way residential fridge with an isotherm for more electric efficiency? I've seen a couple videos of people having trouble replacing the fridge because it won't fit through the door of their camper. That doesn't seem like a good design choice.
iwanttoretireearly 04/28/20 01:44pm Truck Campers
RE: Choosing a camper for compatibility (short and long bed)

Yeah.. I'm leaning towards what people suggested: new duelly and used camper especially if it seems the camper industry is innovating heavily soon to compete with vanlifers.
iwanttoretireearly 04/28/20 01:41pm Truck Campers
RE: Realistic cargo weight for full time living

That subtraction to get to payload is not quite right. They deduct 150 lbs per person from the payload to get the suggested camper weight. Payload is GVWR-GVW. My water capacity is 60 gallons, so 66 (6 gallon water heater plus water capacity) * 8 is over 500 lbs just for water. My TC has two batteries and two propane tanks. That combined starts to push 750 lbs. (just a guess) It adds up really fast, but you do get to subtract the tailgate weight, but have to add tiedowns and tiedown mounts. Which calculation are you referring to? My understanding is that if 150 pounds was deducted from the payload, I don't need to account for my body weight (I weigh close to 150 pounds) to calculate my payload.
iwanttoretireearly 04/25/20 02:55pm Truck Campers
RE: Realistic cargo weight for full time living

FYI in the payload of the Ford trucks they deduct 150lbs per seating position. Check the brochure on the page where payloads are posted. Thanks for the headsup. That would help tremendously. The issue is it is not clear which years they have done this. I found a thread where in 2013 they did this: https://www.f150forum.com/f82/ford-giving-easter-egg-new-buyers-750-more-payload-pounds-456776/ but when looking at 2020, there is no indication: https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2020/f-series-super-duty/2020-Super-Duty-Tech-Specs.pdf Edit: I take it back. I looked at the brochure instead like you mentioned (https://www.ford.com/services/assets/Brochure?make=Ford&model=SuperDuty&year=2020&postalCode=94710) and it does say it takes into account a 150 pound driver. Keep in mind it's not 150 pounds per seating position. Just the driver for 2020. Back in 2013 it was for each seating position.
iwanttoretireearly 04/25/20 02:21pm Truck Campers
Realistic cargo weight for full time living

Anyone have some realistic numbers on how much your cargo weight is for full time living? For 2 people. Truck Camper magazine says 725 in their buyer guide and they went over how to get that number: eg. 100 pounds of food 15 pounds kitchen equipment 15 pounds of bedding 25 pounds of clothes 400 pounds for 2 people 15 pounds of linen camera gear electronics Tools etc. etc. The pics they used of the stuff they were carrying seemed quite sparse. What have you guys experienced? Please separate cargo weight with camping gear/outdoor toys (eg. sleeping bags, skis, kayaks, etc.). I just want to know for full-time living first.
iwanttoretireearly 04/25/20 12:51am Truck Campers
RE: Is there never any under-dinette storage?

What models do you guys have? Pictures?
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 07:09pm Truck Campers
Is there never any under-dinette storage?

Is it just me or is there never any storage options under the dinette? I feel like this is a very prime real estate. What's under it usually? I'm looking at the 3/4 ton camper market specifically.
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 04:05pm Truck Campers
RE: Are "all-bed" campers length safe? Most compatible all bed?

@NRALIFR thanks for the explanation. Got it. So I should be good then getting say the Lance 850. It's going to sit basically flush with the cab regardless if I get a long or short bed. Just depends how much more sticks out I guess. And from my understanding, I think it's important to note that these "all-bed" campers are different than campers that can be BUILT into long bed or short bed version. For example, the Bigfoot 1500 Series has 9.5FS and 9.5FR shortbox models and the 9.5FS and 9.5FR longbox models. You cannot just mix and match these campers with long or short beds. The Lance 850, however, you can. Is that correct? Why not the Lance 865? It's 500lbs lighter than the 850, the appearance and fit to my eye looks better on a short bed, and it's just 4" shorter floor length. Paul Yeah... After calculating how much weight I would be bringing with all my kayaks and full time living, I'm realizing if I want to avoid duellys, I need to go one step down. I was initially keen on the 850 because it can do long bed or short bed. But I'd rather be stuck with short bed than having to go to duellys.
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 03:37pm Truck Campers
RE: Are "all-bed" campers length safe? Most compatible all bed?

Here’s a couple pictures I grabbed just by doing a google search on “Lance 850 2019). I’m pretty sure these are both 850s, but maybe one of the 850 owners could verify that. This one is on a short bed....... https://i.imgur.com/uF1XfyRl.jpg This one is on a long bed dually........ https://i.imgur.com/gZORkJMl.jpg Both are all the way to the front of the pickup bed. :):) Beautiful. Thanks for that.
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 02:38pm Truck Campers
RE: Car breaks down on a trip. What to do with your camper?

Thanks for the advice and stories so far everyone! It seems like Ford dealers are really kind!
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 12:27pm Truck Campers
RE: Are "all-bed" campers length safe? Most compatible all bed?

@NRALIFR thanks for the explanation. Got it. So I should be good then getting say the Lance 850. It's going to sit basically flush with the cab regardless if I get a long or short bed. Just depends how much more sticks out I guess. And from my understanding, I think it's important to note that these "all-bed" campers are different than campers that can be BUILT into long bed or short bed version. For example, the Bigfoot 1500 Series has 9.5FS and 9.5FR shortbox models and the 9.5FS and 9.5FR longbox models. You cannot just mix and match these campers with long or short beds. The Lance 850, however, you can. Is that correct?
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 12:25pm Truck Campers
RE: The shorter the center of gravity, the better right?

Thanks @nlol. Yeah I mean I preference is a long bed camper at heart with a long bed truck but I'm just afraid I won't be able to find a used long bed pickup truck if worst case scenario, my car breaks down for good and I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere. The appealing thing of these versatile campers is I can buy a cheap short or long bed and get out of there for the time being. I'll have to go to a dealership and actually see it loaded on short and long beds but from my understanding now, all the all-bed campers sit basically flush to the cab. On the short beds, they stick out a max of 3 feet. On the long beds, they're practically flush so ideally, there isn't any room for it to slide forward. As for the million other concerns you mentioned, you're right. I don't think there is a convenient answer to all of them.
iwanttoretireearly 04/24/20 12:13am Truck Campers
RE: Payload sacrifice going from regular cab to crew cab

I was talking about taxable payload but since you mention rear axle carrying capacity do you mind sharing your thoughts on how a crew cab compromises that as well as taxable payload?
iwanttoretireearly 04/23/20 11:07pm Truck Campers
RE: The shorter the center of gravity, the better right?

@Lwiddis: there are several companies out there advertising campers that fit both short and long bed trucks and I am trying to wrap my head around it
iwanttoretireearly 04/23/20 11:06pm Truck Campers
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