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RE: BATTERY WATER?????

If you were close by I would offer you a gallon I have. Maybe someone close will offer.... Ask your store when the next delivery is. Or look up a battery distributor to call and check. THANK YOU TIME2ROLL, for even making the offer. most appreciated. Another reason why I love this forum..ALWAYS HELPFUL AND MANY SUGGESTIONS...
joelyn 03/19/20 11:23pm Tech Issues
RE: BATTERY WATER?????

Thanks for the suggestions by all... I did try a couple auto stores (oriely's , auto zone etc) in my area and none have the water... Tomorrow I will try a few auto stores 20 or 30 miles away and see what they have. if nothing than I guess I will top them off slightly just to cover the plates with the machine water and hope I can find some distilled in the next couple weeks... Thank you all again for the ideas... everyone STAY SAFE,,,,THANKS
joelyn 03/19/20 11:18pm Tech Issues
RE: BATTERY WATER?????

Unless the plates are exposed, I would avoid using normal water at all costs. They are for 2 golf carts, that I have. 6 volt batteries total of 13 batteries and 2 of them are just beginning to to show the tops of the plates in 2 different cells... not really completely showing yet but the way it looks here not sure when I will see distilled water again unless I get lucky. So just want to be ready with something just in case...THANKS
joelyn 03/19/20 07:44pm Tech Issues
BATTERY WATER?????

HELLO, of course I always used distilled water in all my batteries. But now with this virus in my area there is NO WATER, NOT EVEN DISTILLED>>> So my batteries are in need of some water... Is it ok to use the drinking water that we get from those 25 cent machines. I would think its better than our water he in AZ from the faucet ... I also have a reverse osmosis water system in the house.... so before I add anything I am looking for any suggestions as to what is better to use or does anyone have any other ideas??? As usually thank you all again for any ideas.....
joelyn 03/19/20 07:15pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Connect the supply ground to the lug mounted on the box wall. The whole box becomes a ground connection so the green wire is fine where it’s at. PERFECT, i thought that but figured i would make sure... always received the right info on many things over the many years on this forum. AGAIN, THANK U ALL FOR SHARING UR KNOWLEDGE...
joelyn 02/13/20 09:21pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Green goes in the connector similar to the Neutral. THANK U, JUST MAKING SURE..
joelyn 02/13/20 09:18pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

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joelyn 02/13/20 08:05pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

OK received the box today and as ya'll said it seems pretty straight forward. Just one question about the ground wire, green... as seen in the attached picture there are 2 place to put the green wire.. not sure if it matters, but do I put the green ground wire into the silver lug attached to the box or do I put it to the screw where the box ground wire is now attached???? black goes to black and white to white as i have outlined in the picture...... just asking about where to attach the ground. thanks to all again for the help https://i.imgur.com/5Z7InGgl.jpg "border=0" https://i.imgur.com/m3zZPvb.pngClick For Full-Size Image.
joelyn 02/13/20 08:00pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Just to note, that link is for a refurnished unit. which one is that??? Your very first post, scroll down to “product description “....”this refurbished product was tested... “ I checked again and don't see where it says refurbished... Is that what TESTED means when u buy electrical items, that they are used???? does it matter if it is or should I avoid this type??? thanks Sorry, where it says “product features”. To me, it means it was sold and returned for what ever reason. Probably nothing wrong with it, but to me it would have to be greatly discounted. Actually just below the buy now button it says: About this item This refurbished product is tested and certified to look and work like new. The refurbishing process includes functionality testing, basic cleaning, inspection, and repackaging. The product ships with all relevant accessories, and may arrive in a generic box Further down the page right above the pictures of other items it says: Description Temporary RV power outlet is factory-assembled and factory-tested. Ready to use with no need to assemble individual parts. Single, heavy-gauge welded flange NEMA 3R rainproof enclosure protects against weather, vandalism and nuisance tripping. It is lockable and is engineered for maximum protection of receptacles, cords, plugs and breakers. All-in-one construction for factory assured terminations. Rolled edge door for cord protection. Manufactured from heavy G-90 zinc coated steel which resists corrosion and fading. Complies with National Electrical Code and OSHA requirements. 5.5" height x 7.5" width x 9.75" depth, 6.525 lb. THANKS, don't know how I missed that, gezzzz. ty..
joelyn 02/11/20 08:49am Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Here's what appears to be the same box at Home Depot. No mention of being refurbished: 30 amp RV power outlet $58.48 https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/a14c181c-b91e-46ae-aa9e-d3d3ae720cc8/svn/midwest-electric-products-rv-electrical-panels-u013cp-64_145.jpg Thank u Tom, I called home depot and lowes and both told me that they did not have this type of box only the one with just the 30 amp plug but no breaker... just checked on line and they have it in stock so ordered it and its 5 bucks cheaper for a new one.. THANKS FOR UR SHARING..ORDERING ON LINE AND THE PRICE WAS ONLY 49.00
joelyn 02/11/20 08:46am Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Just to note, that link is for a refurnished unit. which one is that??? Your very first post, scroll down to “product description “....”this refurbished product was tested... “ I checked again and don't see where it says refurbished... Is that what TESTED means when u buy electrical items, that they are used???? does it matter if it is or should I avoid this type??? thanks
joelyn 02/09/20 05:51pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

An issue that not many people think about when plugging in their RV that is wired for 50A service: many people "rock" the plug into the outlet rather than make sure that all 4 prongs make contact simultaneously. So, you get contact in this order: Ground, L1 and L2, and Neutral - in that order. There is a brief period of time where you will have 240V applied to the plug. Does it hurt things? Maybe - maybe not - but I prefer to err on the side of caution and switch the power OFF before I plug in... I JUST RECEIVED MY PROGRESSIVE INDUSTRIES PROTECTOR THIS WEEK AND IN THE INSTRUCTIONS it says disconnect power, plug unit into the pedestal and reapply power. Wait for the unit to do its check of the electric connections. Once done disconnect power again and than plug in the RV to the unit and than reapply power and wait until u here a click which than sends power to the RV.. That is kind of why I want to install the breaker in the box to avoid walking back and forth to the garage to throw the breaker in there. Feet don't work that good like they use to, LOL... Thanks to all again for the help and advice...
joelyn 02/09/20 05:48pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Just to note, that link is for a refurnished unit. which one is that???
joelyn 02/09/20 12:03pm Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

There are pictures of the wiring in the Amazon reviews. Your existing pvc/wire will enter the bottom of the box. Black goes to the breaker then it goes to the plug. White goes to the neutral lug and then to the plug. Green goes to the ground lug of the box then to the plug. Right now your black wire is going to the plug. Your wire is going to the plug and your green ground is going to the plug and to the box itself. The only thing different in the new box is that the black wire will be going to the breaker then on to the plug. Don’t count on all of the reviews as being accurate and some are dangerous. One guy suggested saving money on wire by not running a ground to the box and driving a ground rod for grounding. This is very dangerous advice. Again, right now your wiring should be black from your existing breaker to your plug. White from your panels neutral lugs and ground from the ground lug bar. Your service panel where everything starts should be bonded which means that the neutral and ground are connected together. If you were to run any 240 volt “sub” panels off your main service they would NOT be bonded so they would run four wires. You are simply running a 120 volt circuit out to your rv, its not a sub panel. Its no different than any other wall plug in your house other than it’s heavier gauge and you are now going to be able to interrupt the black wire. Just checked again and now I see the picture in one of the reviews. as u said it looks all prewired which is good. when I get it hopefully should be pretty self explanatory (I hope, lol) and as you said... as suggested if I have any questions I will post a picture and ask.. As suggested in another post a couple weeks ago I did buy the progressive ind. protector so if any problem I would think that would trip even before the breaker or not even allow electric through and give me a code. And AZRVING, I also am from AZ pretty much not to far from you in BHC..... Thanks again to all of you and as usual I came to the right place to get the answers.. If any other questions will post and give ya'll a follow up once the job is complete. THANKS AGAIN AND ALL STAY SAFE...
joelyn 02/08/20 08:37am Tech Issues
RE: wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

"Features all-in-one construction for factory assured terminations" I'm guessing, it's all wired up with the breaker already wired to the plug. There is probably a pig tail from the other side of the breaker that you have to connect up. THAT would be great if it has that... Its amazon so nobody go really call... thanks
joelyn 02/08/20 01:49am Tech Issues
wiring a 30 Amp Power Outlet 30A Circuit Breaker {{UPDATE}}

Have a 30 amp outlet next to our TT in the lot but the breaker is in the garage a distance away. so I want to install a 30amp plug with a breaker in the box also so I can shut the power off right at the box when plugging and unplugging the TT into it to save me walking a 100 ft to the breaker box... I will be buying this box from amazon... 30 amp box and breaker My question is does anyone have a site to show me how to wire the breaker to the outlet in the box??? checked utube but nothing that I found that shows this, only how to just wire the 30 amp outlet only....thanks
joelyn 02/08/20 12:40am Tech Issues
RE: Who can be the last poster?

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joelyn 02/05/20 10:58pm Around the Campfire
RE: Surge Guard Protector..????

THANKS... CHECKED IN TO THE SOUTHWIRE SURGE PROTECTION and I do see a difference in the joules, the progressive EMS-PT30X has 1790 JOULES and the SOUTHWIRE has a 2450 JOULES rating. Is 660 JOULES difference that big of thing???? I still like the PROGRESSIVE look and cover but if 660 JOULES (not even sure what they are, LOL) is that much better maybe I will rethink...................THANKS Joules are a measure of energy, in this case energy that can be absorbed from transient surges. ("Surges" here mean quick spikes that are significantly higher voltage than expected.) Neither are anywhere near what it would take to protect from a very close lightning strike, which is probably the most common cause of significant surge damage. I would not worry about that difference one bit. Drew E u were spot on in ur explanation of joules. here is a pretty good article to read if anyone else out there is looking for info on a EMS plug..... What Are Joules And Are They A True Indicator Of Product Quality? Among the other specifications found in the above 'surge protectors' for RVs reviews, you will see the joule rating displayed. You will notice that the Southwire 'surge protectors' have a higher joule rating than the Progressive Industries 'surge protectors'. But what does this mean and is it important? First, let's explain what a Joule is. I don't know about you, but my eyes bug out when I read Wikipedia's definition of Joule. So let's see if we can simplify what it is. A Joule in the context of RV 'surge protector' for RVs is the maximum amount of energy that a 'surge protector' can absorb and dissipate as heat. This comes into play when there is a voltage spike or power surge in the power supply. So in theory, the higher the Joule rating the better. But does this really matter? One of the MOST important factors when looking at a surge protection for RVs is the response time. In other words, how quickly the camper 'surge protector' will respond, for example, to a sudden voltage spike. You want this to be an incredibly small number, so that the power supply issue doesn't have a chance to damage your RV. The Progressive Industries 'surge protectors' for RVs have a response time of less than 1 nanosecond (one billionth of a second). That's a really small number, and thus a really fast response time. So while Progressive Industries might have a lower Joule rating than Southwire, it really doesn't matter. The Progressive Industries unit will have disconnected from the faulty power source before the excessive energy needs to be dissipated, thus protecting your RV. This in one of the many reasons we picked Progressive Industries as having the best RV 'surge protectors'. Portable Or Permanent Surge Protector? HERE IS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE IF ANYONE WANTS TO READ IT...................... SURGE PROTECTOR INFO
joelyn 01/29/20 11:37pm Tech Issues
RE: Surge Guard Protector..????

THANKS... CHECKED IN TO THE SOUTHWIRE SURGE PROTECTION and I do see a difference in the joules, the progressive EMS-PT30X has 1790 JOULES and the SOUTHWIRE has a 2450 JOULES rating. Is 660 JOULES difference that big of thing???? I still like the PROGRESSIVE look and cover but if 660 JOULES (not even sure what they are, LOL) is that much better maybe I will rethink...................THANKS Joules are a measure of energy, in this case energy that can be absorbed from transient surges. ("Surges" here mean quick spikes that are significantly higher voltage than expected.) Neither are anywhere near what it would take to protect from a very close lightning strike, which is probably the most common cause of significant surge damage. I would not worry about that difference one bit. Great explanation and advice. Guess I will stay with the PROGRESSIVE since that had had the better reviews from what I have been reading. Thank u for ur response..
joelyn 01/29/20 10:46pm Tech Issues
RE: Surge Guard Protector..????

Advice I've received said to stay away from Surge Guard products. I know from experience, Camco's top of the line protector is a bad investment. When mine failed due to water intrusion (it was never immersed in water but did hang outside for a month when it rained several times - it claimed to be water resistant), I called asking where I could get it repaired and was told it was not repairable. $250 on a non-repairable item doesn't sit well with me - never again. The Progressive line of protectors has a lifetime warranty that users say they stand behind. https://www.progressiveindustries.net/our-products Just to clarify Southwire Surge Guard now have lifetime warranty and also detect load side issues, I know hard to believe an RV maybe miswired. THANKS... CHECKED IN TO THE SOUTHWIRE SURGE PROTECTION and I do see a difference in the joules, the progressive EMS-PT30X has 1790 JOULES and the SOUTHWIRE has a 2450 JOULES rating. Is 660 JOULES difference that big of thing???? I still like the PROGRESSIVE look and cover but if 660 JOULES (not even sure what they are, LOL) is that much better maybe I will rethink...................THANKS SOUTHWIRE 34931 MODEL...
joelyn 01/29/20 06:53pm Tech Issues
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