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RE: Bryce to Cortez, Co area

I don't know about "best" but some years ago I drove Cortez to Bryce by a scenic route. This was in cute-ute, not a big RV, but it should be doable by any vehicle. From Cortez I took at county road west (turn off near the airport), which went right past at least one Monument trailhead. That took us to 162, Aneth, UT. We could have detoured to Hovenweep (but saw that some years before). Then to Mexican Hat and up Moki Dugway. 191 and 95 would be a more RV friendly route. Then 276 to Halls Crossing. We missed the last ferry, so camped on the south side and crossed in the morning. I'd been planning on taking a BLM route across to Boulder, but recent storms had closed a river crossing, so we looped north to Hanksville and Capitol Reef. US95 with a high bridge across the Colorado would have been shorter. Then UT12 to Escalante (camp) and on to Bryce. 12 is curvy but doable by RV. It gets lots of RV discussion. Overall it was about 40 miles longer than the alternatives that Google Maps suggests. But it gave a nice overview of southern Utah.
paulj 01/15/21 12:29pm Roads and Routes
RE: Rainbow Oregon to Oakridge OR on a “black" road ??

The is NF-19, a paved forest service road. I've driven it in early June in a crossover. By that point in your trip you'll probably tried other shorter "black roads" in the Oregon mountains. https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/Scenic-Byways-West-Cascades
paulj 01/08/21 10:30am Roads and Routes
RE: Hungry Horse, MT to Theodore Roosevelt NP, ND

US2 is closer to the North Unit, I94 passes through the south unit. US2 in western ND used to be notorious for oil field traffic, but with the downturn in oil prices and the pandemic that may be different. Google Maps is suggesting a middle route MT200 (from Great Falls). Some years ago I drove the reverse route. When I entered MT on 94 I debated taking 200 across, but with limited information on camping or motels along 200, I chose to stay on 94 to Miles City, and the next day took a diagonal route from Billings to Browning. 15/94 between Helena, Butte and Billings is somewhat mountainous (with broad passes), while 2/200 are quite flat and featureless - and fewer towns and services. But decent roads (and speeds) all around.
paulj 01/02/21 08:08pm Roads and Routes
RE: Arizona Hwy 89 ALT info please

For the most part 89A skirts the Cliffs, and relatively flat (slow slope to Marble Canyon) and straight. The only curvy part is from Jacob Lake to House Rock Rd turnoff (which passes along the west side of the mesa to 89.
paulj 01/02/21 03:11pm Roads and Routes
RE: Arizona Hwy 89 ALT info please

Google maps has most of the information that you need about drop offs, guard rails, shoulders etc. Start by looking the route in terrain mode. This will show where the road crosses flat open spaces, when it's in ravines and where it is winding down or up a cliff. Then there's sat view where you can judge shoulder widths. And finally streetview where you can count guardrail posts. I can't find the drop offs that the directory warns about. On the descent to the east after the Grand Canyon park turn off there are sweeping curves with long views out toward, but no sharp drop offs. Not much of a shoulder; the road surface looks like it's been around for some time. There are some guard rails. At the Colorado Rive crossing, Marble Canyon, there are 2 bridges, an new wide one, and a narrow pedestrian only one - the original. US89 through Page has wider shoulders, and may be preferable if you have a big rig, and don't need to see the North Rim. Speaking of drop offs, US89 has a major rim climb just after the 89A split (east of the river). Several years ago that was closed by a major rock slide. We followed that closure, the detours and repairs on this forum. US89A closer to Sedona is less-rv friendly, with tighter curves and drop offs. Again that's quite evident on the maps.
paulj 01/02/21 10:22am Roads and Routes
RE: Towing in the mountains: the routes near big bear lake

Looking at Google Sat view, both 18 and 330 are mostly 4 lane on this climbs, while 18 Rim of the World between 138 junction and Running Springs is 2 lane - but without major grades or tight turns.
paulj 12/09/20 11:42am Roads and Routes
RE: I 75 Bridge over Ohio river CLOSED

Looking on the map I see a pedestrian bridge. Is that a former railway bridge?
paulj 11/13/20 09:49am Roads and Routes
RE: CA168

The Google Streetview images are from 2008.
paulj 11/03/20 11:36am Roads and Routes
RE: A traffic mess in Moab

... if 191 is screwed up you can take 128 and follow the Colorado river in to moab. it is a little longer with curves as it follows the river but it is awesome scenery While the backups may extend north of the Arches turnoff on 191, the actual construction is south of the bridge (where 128 turns off). It's the 2 lane stretch between the bridge and town that they are widening.
paulj 10/30/20 12:14pm Roads and Routes
RE: A traffic mess in Moab

UDOT project page UDOT has a project description. They are expanding 191 from Motel 6 north to the bridge to have 5 lanes plus shoulders. They are also doing storm drain work. Traffic volumes are above normal and congestion is anticipated particularly in the southbound lanes North of the Colorado River Bridge this week with an influx of tourists. Traffic models shows congestion typically picks up around meal times, and hotel check-in check-out times. It is particularly heavy at dusk. Avoid travel southbound into Moab between 3:30 p.m. and 6:30 p.m. Northbound travel out of Moab typically peaks between 9:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. While there are still single lanes running in each direction as previous to construction, left turns will be limited and disruptive to traffic flow during peak times. UDOT has some web cams from Arches south through town. http://udottraffic.utah.gov/1_devices/aux17403.jpeg
paulj 10/30/20 09:47am Roads and Routes
RE: A traffic mess in Moab

I've been to Moab twice. In 88 we drove in on 191, and after a brief stop at the visitor center visited Arches. We used BLM campgrounds on the river. Even when going up to Island In The Sky I bypassed most of 191, using Shafer Trail and Long Canyon. In the mid 2000s I skipped 191 north of the river entirely, going directly to Dead Horse Pt for camping, and down Long Canyon (under the newish bolder). After a brief stop in town for lunch and groceries, I took 128 to Castle Valley and looped around town via the La Sal Mtns. Admittedly both trips were in small campers (by RV.NET standards) - a 4x4 pickup with popup camper shell, and a CuteUte (with RT4WD). When complaining about how ugly the town is, keep in mind that there have only been two businesses there - mining and tourists. Most of the roads/tracks originated with uranium prospectors, and pretty potash ponds are only remaining industry. And tourists come to sightsee and play outside of town.
paulj 10/24/20 10:35am Roads and Routes
RE: Elko Nevada to Cedar City Utah-Help!

From Panaca NV 319 climbs gradually to the Panaca summit, (2000ft climb in 12 miles). A bit of winding road through the juniper highlands, but no major curves or grades. Then downhill and straight to CC. Basic western 2 lane highway.
paulj 09/26/20 05:51pm Roads and Routes
RE: Mt Rainier - east side

wsdot 410/123 web page park road page The park page lists a tunnel height for 123 (and Stevens Canyon). The tunnel on 123 is 2.7 miles south of the 410 junction (form Google Maps) I don't recall any tunnels on 410, or if there are any they aren't very noticeable (in a car).
paulj 08/08/20 10:25pm Roads and Routes
RE: Hwy 95 though Idaho November

Slide is up by Riggins, ID. OP plans on going south from I-84 the way I understand it. Slide is north of I-84 like 100 miles. You may know more about the OP than is obvious from the post, but I don't see any mention of I84 or first passing through Oregon. So I assumed they were thinking picking up 95 further north, such as Spokane or Lewiston. US95 south of I84 remains of Idaho for only 60 miles (out of a total of 500). I was going to say that's pretty flat, but I see from the map it has a 1000 ft climb over a ridge. When I drove to Jordan Valley some years ago I went through Succor Creek, bypassing that part of US95. In terms of road conditions, weather related or grades, it's the central part of US95 that should be of most concern. The main grades pass in and out of the Snake and Salmon River valleys. One spring when I vacationed in the Idaho mountains, the main state park at McCall didn't open until after Memorial Day due to lingering snow. That's somewhat higher than US95 at NewMeadows. Later we encountered snow flurries at Lost Trail pass on US93.
paulj 08/03/20 08:38pm Roads and Routes
RE: How is Hey 22 through the Ochoco mountain pass in Oregon?

I'm confused. First you worry about I84 heading west, with a longish 6% grade (max freeway) down to Pendleton. Then you say, oops, you are worried about the east bound trip with the climb. Now you are asking about an alternative west bound route? Do you realize that after Bend you get to climb again to a Cascade pass, followed by a much longer drop to the Willamette Valley. And then another climb over the Coast Mtns?
paulj 08/01/20 05:20pm Roads and Routes
RE: Correction **Alternate route for Deadmans pass in Oregon?

Put you RV on a barge and go up the rivers to Lewiston. Then you only have the grades out of that valley to contend with. :) At Pendleton you are near sealevel, near the Columbia River. To get to the upper part of the Snake in Idaho (Boise etc), you have to pass through Hells Canyon, or cross or bypass the Blues. Even if you took US97 south you have a significant climb. US20 east from Bend doesn't have much grades, but Bend area itself is around 4000 ft.
paulj 08/01/20 09:44am Roads and Routes
RE: Winnemucca to Klamath Falls on 140

There is one major grade near the state border - down heading into Oregon. The view may be more unnerving than the actual grade. Otherwise the main issue is distance between fuel stops. It's one of the longer stretches in the lower 48 without fuel.
paulj 07/30/20 10:50am Roads and Routes
RE: Good route from Denver to Newport, Oregon

Be sure and check with the Oregon Health Dept . regarding the New Port numbers on the Virus. Last I heard Newport was a real hot spot in the number of virus cases. Compared to most Arizona counties, Oregon is quite low.
paulj 07/21/20 10:32pm Roads and Routes
RE: I-81 Road Work South of I-80 in Pennsylvania

It's 850 miles long. If they resurface 20 miles a year, it will take 40 years. By then it will be past time to start all over.
paulj 07/20/20 02:44pm Roads and Routes
RE: Idaho Route

Another Idaho Stanley question https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/30106860.cfm
paulj 07/13/20 05:26pm Roads and Routes
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