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RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

And mRNA vaccines have a long track record in human medicines? You are absolutely correct, to be fair.
silversand 11/26/20 12:29pm Around the Campfire
RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders

I looked at the OPD valves on all of my old tanks, and guess what? NONE of them have that red cap. Thanks for those excellent photos! And yes, indeed, the "bleed screw" as you annotate, is the screw that was used to bleed the tank. That's the one! I went outside to check our two BBQ cylinders (with OPD), and no plastic caps on those either. My BBQ tanks are 3 years and 5 years old respectively. Payed around ~ $24 Canadian dollars each at a local Walmart.
silversand 11/26/20 06:02am Truck Campers
RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders

Always, you need to get any air out of there befor filling you it will prevent you from a full tank and can cause flame out issues as you tank gets lower I learned. That's what I have down, too, with all our 20LB BBQ tanks. Had them purged at the local gas plant before having them filled. They do the purge 3 or 4 times before filling, with some attachment gadget with pressure gauge attached. They purge the tank by emptying out the cylinder's factory air fill, then they turn the tank to empty out any water, then, they attach a gas supply, and do a complete gas-through, 3 or 4 times. Then they actually fill the tank. I will shoot some video next time I have a brand new cylinder done again. I will be buying a 40 LB cylinder for a new propane back-up generator we will be getting soon. I was warned at the gas plant that if my brand new cylinder was not initiated properly, the air in the new cylinder added by the cylinder manufacturer would be full of humidity, and if that humidity (or, any condensed water inside the cylinder) would ruin any gas applience connected to the cylinder (gas fridge, gas water heater, gas furnace, and, regulators!
silversand 11/26/20 05:58am Truck Campers
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Mex: It will be interesting to see the reply. But still, why would AstraZeneca ever produce "the vaccine" across the World in an un-concerted way? When AstraZenica's lead says, "go", all the plants (and licensed producers) will commence production at the same time. But what we need to find out, Mex, is IF AZ has already started manufacturing AZD (world-wide?) BEFORE approval (a huge risk for pharmaceutical companies), and is stockpiling in satellite manufacturing facilities (Africa, Latin America (Mexico), East Asia)...THAT is the kind of insider info that we all need to know. After all, AZ is a for-profit corporation competing with all the other vaccines. However, what worries me about AZD1222 is the following, the article in Clinical Trials journal (pharmaceutical industry), most importantly, adenovirus vector has had almost no precedence in human medicines (vaccines): here--> published 12th October.
silversand 11/26/20 04:59am Around the Campfire
RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders

Holy smokes, NRALIFR....that is a lot of very good reading. Thanks! Ticki2: Correct. Most countries have liquid propane tank certification laws, including Canada. Our tank was "looked at" only (by 2 plant employees no less), and simply re-filled. I suspect that this propane recert "law" is utterly and completely unpoliced here....at least for RV propane tanks. Many of my neighbors have enormous horizontal propane tanks to supply their fireplaces. I am curious. I will ask our neighbor about their large horizontal tank. A tank that I know is over 14 years old. NRALIFR: I bled (rather, purged) our horizontal cylinder myself (with a qualified gas tech), the first time it was filled. That end cap on the bleeder spigot is interesting. I can't recall if our tank has that. On edit: OK, I can remember now; I have no cap, and the screw is indeed exposed. On edit: was the 12 year initial requalification period reduced from 12 years to 10 years in 2017? And, the subsequent requalification period lengthened from 7 to 10 years? Also, a question to everyone: do you have your brand new propane cylinders "purged" before first filling?
silversand 11/25/20 08:44am Truck Campers
RE: English to Spanish app for phone

ZAPOTECO was overwhelming for my tongue. My pathetic attempts left my fire plug Zapoteca housekeeper howling and beating her fists on the floor. ....lol! Ha ha ha ha. That sounds familiar to me. My tutor (based in Tz'ununa, Lago Atitlan) reacted the same way!
silversand 11/25/20 08:33am RVing in Mexico and South America
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

....it looks like Argentina has a lab ready to go, to produce AstraZeneca vaccine. Now, in Mexico, the recipe technology is apparently still not transferred to Mexican (or, Argentinian) "vaccine labs"; said labs partially funded by Carlos Slim. However, the Mexican labs (as is the Argentina lab) are ready to produce with some base ingredients when they get "the secret recipe" specifics from University of Oxford. This, I presume will only happen when AstraZeneca is completely tested, approved and released to the UK population. I don't see Oxford UK releasing the vaccine-making script to ANY labs anywhere in the World to make this vaccine until the UK approves it, just ahead of deployment (ie. the UK gets approval). Anyhow, even in the best case scenario, Comisión Federal para la Protección contra Riesgos Sanitarios won't have a vial of vaccine ready before the end of March of next year. Anyone have any insider info on these Mexican labs? On edit: in Brazil, their vaccine-making facilities are just about zero. The ex Brazil minister of health said Brazil will not have the capability to manufacture any vaccines (even AstraZeneca) for perhaps 10 years. If a miracle happens, not for at least 3 years (end of 2023).
silversand 11/25/20 07:59am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Mexico is awaiting Great Britain's authorization then they will proceed independent of the USA. According to COFEPRIS they have millions and millions of doses stockpiled and the Oxford vaccine can be safely made 4 times faster than the US vaccines and exist comfortably in a standard refrigerator. Thank god for small miracles. ....I hope that people are aware that almost none of the 3 vaccine candidates will be permitted to leave the various countries of manufacture until the domestic need is FULLY realized? This even applies to Canada (Canada does not manufacture any vaccines). We in Canada were, um, inferred to yesterday that Canadians shouldn't get over-optimistic about receiving any vaccine(s) manufactured outside Canada until the manufacturing countries' domestic needs are FULLY met. So, even if Mexico says, "we approve all Covid vaccine" today November 25th", unless Mexico has one of the candidate's vaccines plants in-country, get to the back of the line (the back of the line, the same as Canada has to). Millions of doses doesn't even mean very much. The Planet requires at least a thousand-million doses (1 billion divided by 2 = a paltry 500 million fully immunized!) just to inoculate the bare minimum critical infrastructure in a hand-full of G20 countries. The media is being disingenuous to suggest otherwise.
silversand 11/25/20 05:33am Around the Campfire
RE: English to Spanish app for phone

OH by the way I speak, read and write in 9 languages, Spanish is one of them and of course English is another. ....I was heartened to see that a Yucatec dialect Maya language translator was available for Android. Also, a Yoruba translator (for Garifuna dialect, Honduras Caribbean coast). Incredible. I was learning to speak Tz'utujil (the western dialect) at one time, but lost most of that.
silversand 11/24/20 10:59am RVing in Mexico and South America
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Meanwhile back at the ranch...I will share my individual experience with the AZ jab after effects Mex: ....a PBS News Hour journalist (born in 1958, with quite a few pre-conditions) participated in the Moderna trial. This wasn't the AZ vaccine, but nonetheless, his detailed post-jab (2 injections) symptoms experience was very interesting: this is the whole broadcast of his adventure: here--> ....but caveat: the Moderator's post (above) is good advice.....
silversand 11/24/20 09:21am Around the Campfire
RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders

Your 2005 horizontal cylinder should already have the OPD valve so no need to change . You most likely could not get it filled here without recertification ....yes. You are correct. It does have the OPD. Additionally, you are also correct vis us not being able to get it filled in the US. If we ever need it filled in the US, it would be hit and miss (not a good plan). Our tank was filled late summer this year. We can typically go ~2.3 years on a tank-load of LP. So, next year (barring any Covid country border closures) when we spend 4 or 5 months in Florida, we will not go through a tank-load by any stretch. In any case, I will probably replace the tank entirely in about 2 years. On edit: ....I should note that we do not have a propane water heater, nor propane furnace, nor do we ever run our fridge on propane.
silversand 11/24/20 08:55am Truck Campers
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

The FDA has NOT grated EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) to any Covid vaccines at this time. Correct. Nice call. No approval as yet. Its hard to actually say when the approval will happen, according to Dr Fauci as elaborated on the EUA approval process last night on PBS News Hour. Go to 07:37 in the broadcast: here--> In the transcript, verbatim: "Well, the projection is that, if all goes well with the application for an EUA, as you mentioned, an emergency use authorization, that there could be vaccine delivered to us the middle and end of December." And, "And then, as we get into January, February and March, that will increase incrementally, so that, hopefully, by the time you get into the middle towards the end of the first quarter of 2021, you will have accounted for and vaccinated those who are in the higher priority groups" So really, if "all goes well" with the EUA application, the man on the street (ie. the population not among those in critical infrastructure) won't see any vaccine till sometime end of March and later.
silversand 11/24/20 08:42am Around the Campfire
RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders

Super interesting thread. We have a 20LB horizontal tank in the truck camper. The tank is a 2005 vintage. The tank is absolutely mint condition, without a scratch, ding or rust. Looks factory new. We've only had the tank re-filled maybe 7 times over 15 years. It is out of certification, and I brought it to our local gas plant (a huge plant the size of 2 Walmarts), and had the guys in the plant take a look at it. They played around with the empty tank for a bit, and said the tank was in mint condition. No charge, no certification. T'was refilled no problem. Their charge for a recert was $45 Canadian dollars + tax (if it would have needed a valve change). I'm realistic, and one day, the tank will need to be certified (valve changed) at some point. I was putzing around on the "Net" this past summer, and found what looks to be a direct replacement for our Manchester...called Flame-King. here--> This Flame King valve "faces" to the right, and my camper's Manchester valve is hosed-up for left-facing tank valves. I found some on the "Net" for between $110 to $130 dollars....considerably less cost than our original 2005 tank.
silversand 11/22/20 09:17am Truck Campers
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

....a follow-up article to that New York Post New Zealand incoming flight article shows that: "The seven cases detected as a result of the flight were among 215 diagnosed out of a total of 62,698 arrivals into New Zealand as of October 20." So, since the inception of covid-19, 62,698 inbound passengers pre-tested and followed up from quarantine in new Zealand (the strictest country on earth in screening in-coming travelers) represents only 0.342% infection rate aboard all long-haul (I assume all are long-haul) flights into New Zealand since March (over nearly 9 months). That is a very good population test of a "captive audience" inside an aluminum cigar tube that would have an modern passenger jet air cabin recirculation / purification rate of between 33 and 46+ times per hour. You would have to normalize the 62,698 total passenger population with the standard incidence of coronavirus per 100,000 over the course of the pandemic, but look at Belgium (all these numbers as of yesterday): Belgium: 4802 infections per 100,000 Switzerland: 3330 infections per 100,000 Netherlands: 2700 infections per 100,000 UK: 2180 infections per 100,000 Iceland: 1465 infections per 100,000 I would feel MUCH safer flying in a modern passenger jet with modern air circulation/purification systems compared with living an 18 hour period in ANY of the best/lowest infection per 100,000 numbers countries of the World, for sure. Even better (well, for the air passenger industry), I assume every passenger in the 18 hour flight would have removed their masks maybe a dozen times over that incredibly long flight. Who can wear a mask for 18 yours straight without removing it? No one. The big issue with taking a flight, is exposure inside the airport terminal, and going through pre-flight screening. If screening could take place outdoors, and outside any terminal building, that would be perfect (however, extremely difficult to execute, as you can imagine in harsh winter). Note: I include above only countries with the highest standard of pandemic tracking, to keep in line with New Zealand's extremely strict pandemic tracking endeavor This is the article to which I refer: here-->
silversand 11/22/20 07:37am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Since young people are being hired I have few qualms about the particular ethics. ...the accepted individuals will be housed in a BSL3 sector in that hospital, and will be monitored 24/7 for the duration. Probably among the most highly monitored and attended-to "medical patients" on Earth during "the challenge". Fifty years ago given the chance I might have found myself in line. I read that 20 to 30 thousand individuals are ready to "volunteer" at a moment's notice, for any Covid vaccine challenge trials, without compensation. On edit: this is the volunteer hub for global challenge trial advocacy and, actual trial participation; have a look at their impressive advisory board, alumni and team: here--> . This isn't a fringe movement and initiative.
silversand 11/19/20 05:12am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Great Britain is carrying out a rather rude head-to-head test of vaccines... ...the Irish company Open Orphan (the subsid. is hVIVO), will be starting their characterization study (a very limited 18 to 30 cohort) sometime in January or February, to test the efficacy of three vaccine candidates. The UK government has an HRA ethics committee (vaccine taskforce) that I think is still in deliberation on this human challenge initiative. The Royal Free Hospital will be the residence for (compensated) participants. The three vaccine candidates to be used are yet unknown (to me). ....the compensation is said to be set at an amount that will not "appear" to be coercive.
silversand 11/18/20 08:38am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Thanks for the link. I watched the video and will be sharing it. "The cavalry is on its way ". Still not sure why people aren't wearing masks. Why would doctors wear them if they were truly useless? We're fanatics about this and rightly so. We haven't been to a restaurant since March and no visitors to the house. Cheers, Chris. We did a large quantity of outdoor activity this summer, up till the weather got seriously cold at end of September. Literally all our food since returning from Florida end of March, was phone order-to-door delivery, and after the mandatory quarantine on return, curb-side pick-up. No restaurants, no visits by anyone into our house since March, however, we did do outdoor bonfires on occasion at our immediate neighbors' back yard (two couples total; we have huge properties here with lots of space, our neighbors were in Florida with us, and we returned at same time, everyone quarantining). We did camp in our backyard (we have our own private campsite on our property, in the forest, with all the hook-ups), and, at a local National Park 30 kilometers away, but the lots are enormous, and we are pretty well self-contained. We only found out recently (3 weeks ago) that 2 of our friends had contracted Covid (1 works in a hospital environment); both survived but not without a long-ish recovery. My better half was a pandemic planner for many, many years (for one of the largest trans-nationals on Earth), so we were extremely well equipped at home for quite a few years now, for a possible Global catastrophe.
silversand 11/18/20 08:00am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Chris: Thanks for the link to the Wuhan docu. I'll try and watch this tomorrow. It sounds like an extremely dire situation in your region of Mexico, and indeed across the entire republic. Be careful out there! BCSnob: I will definitely read through your links today; thanks. ....but the elephant in the room still is: .....how long will immunity last in all cohorts and all complications among those very early P3 vaccine candidates?
silversand 11/17/20 10:39am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

FWIW Moderna's phase III trial (NCT04470427) is scheduled to end Oct 27, 2022; do you want to wait until then? ....actually, IMO, any of the "promising" vaccines can go wrong with such a short trial. No one has any idea if these vaccines will give immunity for more than a month or two, for starters. So, the first injection to 2nd injection span is 2 weeks....who will actually go out and get the 2nd injection?? Perhaps just 40 ~ 50% of the recipients (based on 2-part vaccine history)? Even worse, what if it takes 2 weeks + 7 days to build maximum immunity....? What if certain age cohorts don't build immunity for more than 3 weeks? 8 weeks? What if taking heart medication (and 2 or 3 dozen other medications) deactivates the vaccine, and doesn't work at all? Many, many questions need to be answered. That's why 3 to 8 years is needed to evaluate a vaccine. Just for the record, I am definitely not an anti-vaxer.
silversand 11/17/20 06:41am Around the Campfire
RE: 2019–20 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC POSTINGS

Even after the second vaccination, there is a waiting period of a few weeks before immunity can kick in. So for a long period after vaccines are available we will continue to wear masks. That should help to further reduce the number of deaths of those where the vaccine is not fully effective. Right? Chris....if you can, have a look at PBS News Hour last evening 6:40 PM EST, entitled, "Head of NIH urges Americans to take precautions while awaiting vaccine", Dr Francis Collins, the NIH head, delves into the Emeregency vaccine verification procedure (and, the intense independent review that goes into any vaccine before it is "early released" by the Federal review board). He is imploring Americans to please use masking and social distancing, because though 2 vaccine candidates look promising, no vaccine will be widely-deployed before at least April across through September next year: here-->
silversand 11/17/20 05:35am Around the Campfire
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