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RE: Do the Weight Police have jurisdiction off road?
The so called weight police, have a jurisdiction that primarily deals with commercial vehicles, technically a dual wheeled axle can haul 22 thousand pounds and not be overweight the same with the steer axle.
Nope. Weight police on this forum is the imaginary group composed of members here who complain about what others are doing. They have no legal standing, but it doesn’t stop them from letting their opinions be known.
Thanks for playing. :D
Nope , weight police is a derogatory term used by folks who don't like another persons opinion and dampens any further meaningful discussion of the issues. I have yet to read of anyone declaring themselves as a member of the weight police .
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ticki2
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11/27/20 08:30am |
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RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders
Silversand , I'm very surprised you gas plant filled your 2005 cylinder without requalifying it . According to Canada Propane Association cylinders must be inspected and requalified every 10 years and It is illegal to fill a cylinder that is out of date . Can you clarify ?
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ticki2
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11/25/20 07:10am |
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RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders
This thread should go in TCU , lots of good info .
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ticki2
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11/25/20 06:41am |
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RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders
Silversand, everyone should do what they are comfortable with . With the condition you say your cylinder is in and the amount of use I would simply have it recertified when and if you ever get to Fla or over the border . It's not very expensive , less than $20 .
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ticki2
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11/24/20 03:05pm |
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RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders
Super interesting thread.
We have a 20LB horizontal tank in the truck camper. The tank is a 2005 vintage. The tank is absolutely mint condition, without a scratch, ding or rust. Looks factory new. We've only had the tank re-filled maybe 7 times over 15 years.
It is out of certification, and I brought it to our local gas plant (a huge plant the size of 2 Walmarts), and had the guys in the plant take a look at it. They played around with the empty tank for a bit, and said the tank was in mint condition. No charge, no certification. T'was refilled no problem.
Their charge for a recert was $45 Canadian dollars + tax (if it would have needed a valve change).
I'm realistic, and one day, the tank will need to be certified (valve changed) at some point. I was putzing around on the "Net" this past summer, and found what looks to be a direct replacement for our Manchester...called Flame-King. here-->
This Flame King valve "faces" to the right, and my camper's Manchester valve is hosed-up for left-facing tank valves. I found some on the "Net" for between $110 to $130 dollars....considerably less cost than our original 2005 tank.
Perhaps the regulations are different in Canada. In the US portable DOT propane cylinders have to be certified 12 years from manufacture and every 5 years thereafter , since 1998 . Your 2005 horizontal cylinder should already have the OPD valve so no need to change . You most likely could not get it filled here without recertification .
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ticki2
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11/22/20 07:19pm |
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RE: TC Horizontal LP Cylinders
To add a little more complication the the propane cylinder/tank subject , I have 2 original horizontal ASME TANKS that don't have OPD valves and are portable . They are filled and used in the horizontal . Some fillers have no clue what to do with them . They are very heavy , 50# each filled .
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ticki2
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11/19/20 03:52pm |
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RE: I got my new gas light.
I thought blower was involved in the definition of forced air furnace?
They used to have just a furnace without a blower that forced air out, kinda like a catalytic heater,that had no blower or electricity involved..The thermostat was numbers on the dial..LOL..When the number on the dial reached it's temperature,it went to just the pilot until it needed more heat...
The older campers had the propane lights/hand water pump/forced air furnaces(without blowers) etc because most only had one battery and RVing was nothing like it is today..
Old school wasn't so bad and everyone lived that followed instructions,just as today..LOL
I know what used to be, but that was called a gravity system. The heated air is lighter, so it flows out to be replaced by colder air. In the house I grew up in, if we closed the door at the bottom of steps, so the dense air could not come down, we had no heat in the upstairs bedrooms.
Correct , forced air means blower .
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ticki2
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11/16/20 10:18am |
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RE: I got my new gas light.
One hour of one burner on the gas range would equal almost four hours of gas lamp use . The OP is looking for pleasing light and heat . LED produces neither . Both have their place and I use both .
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ticki2
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11/16/20 10:13am |
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RE: Winter tire recommendations
I put a set of Nokian Rotiiva on my dually last winter and thought they did very good in the snow even empty .
PS they do have the snowflake symbol
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ticki2
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11/12/20 02:10pm |
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RE: What did you do to your Camper Today?
Cool Specta..I wish mine had one as well as a hand pump alternative for water..The old days had there perks in my opinion..Breaking the glass cover not included..lol..I also miss the forced air furnaces..No battery draw to speak of..
I think you meant to say old convection furnace . A forced air furnace requires a fan to operate , which is what most are today .
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ticki2
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11/10/20 11:41am |
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RE: Ford 7.3 gas engine
Edit: tiresize.com and other tire websites show that the 2011-2014 F450 pickups all came with 17” (245/75R17) tires. No 19.5’s on those years at all. All other model years have 19.5’s, with no other sizes optional. This (IMHO) is further proof that the 2011-2014 F450 pickups were nothing more than rebadged F350’s.
:):)
There was some difference , the f450 had a heavier frame and larger brakes . Axles and wheels were the same as f350.
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ticki2
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11/07/20 02:10pm |
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RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos
When I did my front panels replacement I did notice that the foam was quit thin on some of the curved front ones , about 3/8" . The only other place I had interior panel off was under the Windows along the dinette . That area was very consistent at 1-1/2" . In neither place was there any adherence issue with the exterior skin . I bought a kit from a spray foam company . It's a bit tricky to get a uniform thickness when you are doing it once and don't have a lot of experience . This sixth panel was better than the first , lol . If I was attempting the entire gutted interior I would hire a professional , there are many in my area that do homes . Of course everything depends on price , and there are some very good kits on the market to DIY .
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ticki2
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11/03/20 06:01pm |
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RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos
Thanks tickie and D1, it’s good to hear some verified weights. We’ve been using 3000lbs as our estimated ready to camp weight and it sounds like it might be fairly valid max working number for our C-10.
With the mention of old brochures I hunted through a 1965 one that came with our C-10, it states 1769lbs for the C-10 and 1640 for the 8 1/2 (unicorn). Our camper is an early one (#000045) with fiberglass insulation and not the foam insulation that is in most which may explain the slightly lower weight in the early brochure.
The idea that foam insulation can gain significant weight from leaks is pretty real. I used to race small one design sailboats with similar foam inside their hulls. We found that hulls could weigh between 120lbs and 180lbs, a 60lb difference in 14’ boats that came out of the same mold - and yes the heavy ones were always damp inside.
Well I learned something new . I thought all Avion TC' s had foam insulation . After some searching apparently in only started in the 66 model year for all Avions including trailers . There have been some question in the past by owners trying to determine whether there unit was a 65 or a 66 . It seems the type of insulation would answer the question . After 50 years I found the foam insulation in good condition , I would not hesitate to use it instead of fiber glass . What was used was reportedly urethane foam witch should not hold water ( closed cell ) .
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ticki2
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11/03/20 09:43am |
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RE: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos
I have never weighed my C 11 for dry weight . My wet weight ready to camp includes 20 gal fresh water tank plus 14 gals in containers , 2 T125 6v batteries , Honda 2000ie , 3 camp chairs , equipment tub with extension cords ,hoses, etc. etc . , full fridge , other food , cloths , bedding , small hand tool box , 12v compressor plus personal items . Ready to camp weight is 3300# . The brochures I have list the dry weights of C 10 = 1800# , C11 = 2200#
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ticki2
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10/31/20 02:06pm |
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RE: Blue water in black tank - does it freeze?
Best to drain the tanks if you can . Put some pink stuff in all the traps so odors don’t come up from the tanks . If you haven’t used the water since it was winterized you’re all done .
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ticki2
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10/26/20 11:26am |
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RE: Nothern Lite on a flatbed?
That's because in 2011 the F450 pickup wasn't a true class 4 truck . It had the same rear axle rating as an F350 , the same 17" wheels and tires . It did have a heavier chassis and larger brakes . It was designed to tow not to a carry a load . Because it weighed more it had less payload than an F350 in the same configuration . The cab chassis version is a different story .
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ticki2
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10/23/20 07:29am |
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RE: next after Upper Stableloads? Jittery ride on rough pavement
Check your door sticker . It may be that your truck is only at its rated GVWR . If so you shouldn't even need the stableloads . Also check the tire pressure for the load they are carrying . Over inflated tires can do that . That being said there are roads that are miserable no matter what you do . The old concrete paved roads come to mind .
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ticki2
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10/22/20 04:29am |
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RE: Aluminum Frame vs Wood Frame for washboard roads.
Here is a picture showing gutted frame.
Floor is definitely welded members, when I can't find close-up how walls frame is connected. Looks welded on this picture, but can't say for sure.
Well folks there's your definitive answer.
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ticki2
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10/21/20 05:29pm |
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RE: Aluminum Frame vs Wood Frame for washboard roads.
Another thing you will notice , aircraft , airstream and even my old Avion are riveted construction , not welded . I suspect aluminum welds don't hold up as well to twisting and vibration
How is Avion frame riveted?
I used to own 1965 Airstream and when siding was riveted, the frame was welded.
I own a 76 airstream and a 68 avion TC . Both have been apart , there were no welds . You would have to show me where the welds are in an airstream .
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ticki2
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10/21/20 02:48pm |
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RE: Aluminum Frame vs Wood Frame for washboard roads.
When aluminum frame is definitely much better not only strength-wise but also for water resistance, I found that my Fleetwood was build by "minimum wage welder".
Not only the welds were very poor quality, but not much of them and they kept on breaking, so I had to add steel reinforcement on joints.
Bottom line, it all comes to person who does final assemble and quality control.
To answer technical dilemma - aircrafts are generally exposed to high vibrations and guess what most of them are build with.
Few accidents in last decades show that it is steel in turbines who gets fatigued faster, than aluminum airplane body.
I suspect that aircraft is built by highly skilled workers and aluminum thats quite a bit better,stronger then any camper.
Airstream may be the only one thats build well.
Another thing you will notice , aircraft , airstream and even my old Avion are riveted construction , not welded . I suspect aluminum welds don't hold up as well to twisting and vibration
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ticki2
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10/21/20 06:03am |
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