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RE: Bill giving residents priority at booking FL state parks
Florida residents not getting sites at Florida state parks vote in Florida elections. Out of state RVers not getting a site don’t .
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wapiticountry
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01/23/23 03:58pm |
RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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RE: RVIA Certificate?
Check with the park. No one on the forum knows why they chose that rule and how they enforce it. It’s a county park, meaning the government is involved. For all we know there was a serious accident involving a home built rig. Maybe a fatal fire or electrical issue. The county attorney defending the county does some research and decides the RVIA sticker would provide them a layer of protection in the future so it is mandated. The employees aren’t empowered to make any exceptions so no sticker, no site end of story.
As for all the posts saying they have never been questioned, they probably never have had a lot of things happen to them but have happened to others. That’s why people have insurance, door locks, bear spray etc. Just because it didn’t happen to Fred doesn’t make Barney immune.
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wapiticountry
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01/19/23 10:43am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
Yes the sewer hose is a big consideration. It is virtually impossible to disconnect and store it without leaving a trail of droppings.
That's what I figured, except the drain is often 20-30 feet from my dump valve and I have to use two hoses to reach. I'm always very tidy about dumping, but I get it.
Some people shouldn't work with the public.
Even if the sewer connection is two hoses away you can “walk” the contents down the hose from the rig to the sewer connection. In all my years of owning parks I never saw a guest crawling under their rig to walk the contents of a sewer hose from on side of the rig to the other.
As for some people not being suited to work with the public, spend enough hours doing it and I would bet everyone would have times they like to strangle a customer or two even knowing it was going to take a lot of time and effort to bury the bodies. The fact they don’t is a testament to their dedication to their job.
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wapiticountry
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01/10/23 09:37am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
Many years ago a big group of us booked a block of sites at a park in Ventura and booked an empty spot to use as our gathering area. I had originally parked my trailer the wrong direction so that I could face the empty space, but the park host came over and yelled at me and made me turn it around because rules are rules.
I never understood that one. Never saw the harm in it. I assume maybe it has something to do with not wanting the dump hose run underneath the rig, but I didn't even hook mine up (just shore power and fresh water).
They wouldn't budge though. I even re-read through the rules and that wasn't one of them, which means I wasn't technically a rule breaker.
Yes the sewer hose is a big consideration. It is virtually impossible to disconnect and store it without leaving a trail of droppings. But the bigger issue is it puts your door opening on to the neighbors yard. Even if you are traveling with that neighbor and they are fine with it problems may ensue. What happens are other guests see it as a license to park opposite of the site’s design and they take it upon themselves to reposition for various reasons. It might be to gain better views out of their windows or they think they will get better wifi reception. But that does put the entry door in conflict with the neighbors and it gets worse when awnings are extended or pets, children and the like are involved. Never allowing it keeps things simple and trouble-free
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wapiticountry
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01/09/23 03:38pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Flying J / Pilot to install megachargers for med/heavy trks
All EV's should be charged by either solar or wind power, otherwise the owners of EV's are just pretending.
Carry on.
I would add nuclear and hydroelectric power to the mix
Salmon disagree with the premise hydroelectric dams are environmentally friendly.
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wapiticountry
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01/07/23 12:55pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
What these boards appear to be afflicted with is a runaway case of "get off my GD lawn" syndrome ROFLMAO. What a bunch of kooks. Every other thread on these boards is a doosy unlike anything I've seen.
That said goodbye, have a wonderful life, over and out. Consider my account closed.After being a member for TWO whole days!!! A tremendous loss for the forum.
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wapiticountry
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01/07/23 12:35pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
As I have already posted, it is very easy to say “enforce the rules”. How to enforce those rules is the problem. I have repeated asked for suggestions and the only answer I get is a repeat of “enforce the rules”. If we kicked everyone out the first time they broke the speed limit, their dog barked, their kids got in the road, they parked on the grass, they made noise during quiet hours or ran with scissors the park would be empty and we would be broke.
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wapiticountry
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01/07/23 09:25am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
"So what do you see as proper enforcement of a speeding rule? And exactly how is the park supposed to determine who is speeding? Should the park invest in multiple radar stations to cover all the different roads? Do you enforce at one MPH over the posted speed? Or do you have a tolerance? And how does enforcing it strictly a few times prevent future problems when the park turns over its occupancy every few days? "
So if you have a guest who comes through your 10 mph CG at 20 - 25 every time you would take no action? It would be more than obvious {through the magic"sight"} the hazard they are creating in flagrant violation of your posted limit. If it happens roll by their site and remind them of the rules advise that if it happens again they will be leaving without refund and then enforce the warning.
This was a problem for awhile at one our favorite CG's until they posted a sign at the entrance stating their zero tolerance policy. Reminding folks when they check in leaves no ambiguity. After a few folks were booted the word got around and the problem all but disappeared.
Run your facility anyway you want... your park, your rules but know that if I visit a facility that does nothing to enforce basic safety/courtesy I won't be back.
:C
You are very clear as to what you feel is the problem. What I don’t see is any patheay to a practical solution. How do you implement zero tolerance without a method to determine actual speed. Would you be ok if a park employee came up to you and told you to leave because to them it looked like you were going 12 MPH not 10? Do people get warnings or is it one and you’re out? If warnings, how many and over what time period? Two warnings in a day is much different than two warnings in a summer. And while word may get around in a seasonal park, it doesn’t in an overnight or destination park where people only stay a day or two. Much as it would be great if everyone idled thru the park at ten miles per hour, they often don’t. An absolute zero tolerance, one strike and your out policy would likely put the park out of business prior to stopping all the violators.
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wapiticountry
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01/06/23 10:55am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
"Define chronic. Is it a dog barks once, once every few hours, for three minutes when the owners leave them in the RV? And how do you politely enforce a rule? A park is pretty much limited to letting them stay or kicking them out. I don’t think turning off the power or disconnecting the cable for an hour effectively giving the RV a time out would be practical, polite or non confrontational. Warnings only go so far and that is a very short distance in parks where the average guest stays for only a few days. Fact is, unless there are truly gross violations of rules, rule enforcement relies primarily on the good character of the violator. "
As noted chronic speeding is a biggie as it is liable to get someone injured or worse. The CG's that enforce zero tolerance don't have to do so more than a couple of times and the problem goes away one way or the other. Dogs invading other sites with bad internet {don't get me started on those retractable 30' leashes} or no leash any all and of course the folks that never clean up after their pooches.
Relying on the "good character"of the violator presumes/assumes they have some which sadly is often not the case.
:E
So what do you see as proper enforcement of a speeding rule? And exactly how is the park supposed to determine who is speeding? Should the park invest in multiple radar stations to cover all the different roads? Do you enforce at one MPH over the posted speed? Or do you have a tolerance? And how does enforcing it strictly a few times prevent future problems when the park turns over its occupancy every few days?
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wapiticountry
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01/06/23 09:58am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
Ok I'll play... If you are going to have rules and obviously you need to, enforce them consistently for the benefit of one and all. I appreciate it when upon checking in being given a copy, usually on the back of the CG map and yes guys I actually read them every time.
Every CG/RV park is a little different and if after reading their rules you cannot comply just put your rig in gear and get on down the road. The rules are not subject to debate and I would hope they apply to everyone, not just us.
On the earlier discussion about IQ...
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
:B
Enforcing rules has to be done with discretion. It is never black and white. For example we have quiet hours, not silence hours. Barking dogs are a no go, but we don’t kick someone out for a dog’s random bark. Deal with the general public enough and you will inevitably have conflicts regarding rules and policies. It is impossible to settle then all to the satisfaction of everyone involved.
I have to disagree... especially when it comes to speeding in the CG but other chronic offenses should always be dealt with in a timely manner as well. No need to be a jerk just politely enforce them. Your other nonproblematic guests are entitled to know and expect what the rules provide for.
:C Define chronic. Is it a dog barks once, once every few hours, for three minutes when the owners leave them in the RV? And how do you politely enforce a rule? A park is pretty much limited to letting them stay or kicking them out. I don’t think turning off the power or disconnecting the cable for an hour effectively giving the RV a time out would be practical, polite or non confrontational. Warnings only go so far and that is a very short distance in parks where the average guest stays for only a few days. Fact is, unless there are truly gross violations of rules, rule enforcement relies primarily on the good character of the violator.
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wapiticountry
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01/05/23 03:54pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
Well this seems like a good place to ask a question I have been wanting to ask:
Is a tent on top of a vehicle, say a jeep or pickup or you choice, a TENT or a VEHICLE (camper}??
If a tent then can the tent drive across the campground to drive up onto the newly made and framed tent site, or park in the parking area for the camp site?
JimR
Not a tent, it’s a vehicle. It doesn’t have an RVIA certification so many parks can go to the fine print in their rules and not accept the rig if it looks like Jed and Granny pieced it together after a wild night of checkers for money down in Bugtussle.
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wapiticountry
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01/05/23 10:37am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
My advice to campground owners. If you have a quiet time starting at 11 PM, make a trip through the campground at 11:15 on Friday night and address problems. Don't wait for somebody to call the office, where most likely nobody will answer, to complain.
See item nine on my list. Do you really think it never occurred to park management that if they truly wanted to tightly enforce quiet hours they should check the park after that time? Maybe that park doesn’t care, doesn’t normally have a problem or maybe as I just posted you are looking for silence hours and they only offer quiet hours.
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wapiticountry
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01/05/23 08:40am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
Ok I'll play... If you are going to have rules and obviously you need to, enforce them consistently for the benefit of one and all. I appreciate it when upon checking in being given a copy, usually on the back of the CG map and yes guys I actually read them every time.
Every CG/RV park is a little different and if after reading their rules you cannot comply just put your rig in gear and get on down the road. The rules are not subject to debate and I would hope they apply to everyone, not just us.
On the earlier discussion about IQ...
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
:B
Enforcing rules has to be done with discretion. It is never black and white. For example we have quiet hours, not silence hours. Barking dogs are a no go, but we don’t kick someone out for a dog’s random bark. Deal with the general public enough and you will inevitably have conflicts regarding rules and policies. It is impossible to settle then all to the satisfaction of everyone involved.
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wapiticountry
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01/05/23 08:32am |
General RVing Issues
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Park pet peeves, Park owner’s turn
There are 92 posts why RVers don’t like RV parks, so here is what some of us on the other side experience.
We are in business to make money. No need to tell us you never use more than two dollars of electricity so your rate should be three dollars a night.
We aren’t going to make someone pack up and leave so you can have their site.
Your kids aren’t cute enough that we must allow them to run wild into other people’s sites.
We know the difference between a service animal and an untrained pet.
Your guess is as good as ours as to why there is no pizza delivery in town.
We don’t allow campfires and the fact you believe it’s not camping without one doesn’t exclude you from the policy.
Yes, we do need to close the restrooms at noon for an hour so we can clean then thoroughly.
Us not having a pool does not turn the showers into a water park.
You are not exempt from quiet hours because you just got back from the day’s activities.
Check in and check out times are not suggestions, they are our policies.
It’s grass, not green asphalt, so don’t park on the lawns.
The wildlife is wild. Your children cannot pet the elk, ride the bison, or take a bear cub home, so don’t try.
We have years of experience running the business, if we need advice on how to operate we will hire professionals.
You ran over the rock, tree or utility pedestal, it didn’t jump out in front of you.
Speed limits aren’t minimums, they are maximums.
We can’t put you in a wooded, shaded site that doesn’t have any trees.
We didn’t pay the subscription fee for the weather, so we can’t change it.
That’s a few, no doubt other owners and employees have more.
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wapiticountry
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01/04/23 03:41pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: RV park "STANDARDS"
Reviews are what they are. Some people complain no matter what. Heck if a bank was giving away money someone would complain the bank didn’t have a unicorn for their kids to ride while they were filling their pockets. Dealing with the public is exhausting. It’s why we sold our parks and now blissfully avoid most humans.
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wapiticountry
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12/03/22 10:18am |
RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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RE: You tube Fulltimers getting squeezed
In short, too many bleeding hearts whos heart strings get tugged at while watching tweakers or almost tweakers live the van life that actually support them and then give them a little hope that their money for nothing scheme actually will work indefinitely.
But they are a fad not a productive part of society.
I think you need to do a little research on how much money social media mavens and ‘influencers’ can (and do) make, in cold, hard CASH before you make yourself look a little silly in front of folks younger than us.
A friends son is one of those ‘almost tweakers’ who has a YouTube channel with well north of a million subscribers.
He clears US$10k ++ per month.
I stand corrected if you’re insinuating that there are a lot, or even a few, #vanlifers and #skoolies that are making $100k+ a year doing this. Or even a median income plus all their expenses.
I’m not talking about Jake Paul and all the other YooToob “influencers” here.
Seems like everyone has a friend whose cousin used to use a gardener whose wife went to a hairdresser who knew someone who was making a fortune as an influencer, a crypto mogul, a professional gamer or an internet sports bettor. With all the ways to get rich without doing anything why are there so many homeless and kids living in their parent’s basement.
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wapiticountry
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12/01/22 03:37pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Harvest Hosts
Harvest Hosts doesn’t publish the host locations because that is literally the only thing they have to sell. I would bet almost all the hosts would offer the exact same accommodations to non members if they called and asked.
Those hosts expect you to buy their products, that is how they were sold on being hosts in the first place. It is marketed as a way for those businesses to increase their sales. If the hosts get a string of non buyers just looking for free stays those hosts will become ex-hosts. They aren’t RV centric charities, they are small businesses looking for new customers.
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wapiticountry
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11/30/22 09:42am |
RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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RE: Montana LLC to save on sales tax
I know several people who own very expensive coaches. They title and register them with Montana LLCs because they never enter their primary state of residence. Why should their high sales tax and registration state benefit from taxes on a vehicle that never enters the state?
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wapiticountry
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11/25/22 08:15pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: rv towing companies
Get a quote from the dealer servicing your current rig as to what they will give you in a trade, add in the costs you are finding to have the rig delivered to Florida and you might be able to upgrade your current disabled rig into a newer one that actually works.
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wapiticountry
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11/02/22 12:09pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: renting out your RV? Success stories? Issues?
We get a lot of Turo car rentals where I live/work and most all of them started renting their personal vehicle and it worked so well they bought additional ones and made a business out of it. I haven’t checked the RV rental sites, but if you check the Turo web site it is an interesting business model.
Dave
I would assume almost all people who rent from Tiuro have a pretty good amount of knowledge how to operate a car. I also am pretty much sure most of those renters do not plan on cooking, eating, sleeping, entertaining , bathing and pooping in that car.
Comparing Renting a car vs renting an RV is roughly the same as comparing renting an RV to renting a house or apartment. They have a few things n common, but many more things that are completely different.
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wapiticountry
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10/29/22 03:31pm |
General RVing Issues
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