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RE: RV Park near Noesho River OK

If you have never traveled in that part of the country be aware that rivers aren't going to be like the rivers you have in New England. They are almost all muddy, slow moving sloughs. I wouldn't go out of my way to stay near an Oklahoma River. True story: There was a prison escape at the State prison near Stringtown, Oklahoma. The warden was interviewed and asked what was being done. He said they were watching the highway and the railroad but otherwise just waiting. He said that after a day or two in the surrounding swamps and creeks escapees just get driven crazy by the leeches, snakes and mosquitoes and return on their own. That is Oklahoma water recreation at it's finest.
westernrvparkowner 12/04/19 12:34pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Who has sold everything and started rving for life

Without further information on your life circumstances that is an impossible question to answer. If you are retiring from a career and either want to have something else to do or want a way to extend your finances it can be a great decision. If you want to just drop out and workamp as a career, it's a terrible decision. Workamping doesn't pay wages high enough to be considered a career choice. That is just the facts. It doesn't offer benefits such as health insurance, 401Ks, paid time off, career advancement opportunities etc. It isn't something that should be considered for full time employment. What it does offer for many people is a relatively stress free way enjoy both working and traveling at the same time. Workamping is a great way for retirees with somewhat modest means to travel the country and not deplete their savings. Generally a workamping postion will offer enough pay and perks so that you can spend 5 or 6 months at a destination, explore the area and not totally skimp on the budget and leave with as much money as you came with. You have to remember that there will be a time when you will no longer be able to workamp. When that happens you will need to be able to live off your retirement savings, any pensions and your Social Security. Transitioning from full timing will usually require obtaining a new residence and furnishings which can be a significant cost. You should look past the adventure and see all the potholes in the road before taking off.
westernrvparkowner 12/04/19 12:17pm RV Lifestyle
RE: Best places to park the TT @ Yellowstone

Sorry, we're looking for full hookups Either One of the KOAs in / near West Glacier. There's two. The one closer to the city of West Glacier is the nicer of the two, it's more like what you'd expect a KOA to be. If you want to be in the park, there's Fishing Bridge RV campground, which has full hookups. Neither KOA is open right now so it's probably impossible to make reservations. When I went to park in 2006, we booked Fishing bridge about a year in advance. Reservations are must due to the amount of visitors the park gets.West Glacier is a long, long drive to Yellowstone. West Yellowstone, not so much. You can make reservations for both the KOAs near West Yellowstone even though the parks are closed. Don't know for sure if they are answering or returning phone calls, but the online system is available year round.
westernrvparkowner 12/04/19 08:52am Travel Trailers
RE: Snake Repellent Testing - Advice

A real scientific test would require time, money, snakes and bait. You would put the snakes in a large enclosure and place baits in two equally accessible areas one of which was defended by your snake repellent. You would then observe over time whether the snakes avoided the defended baits. For it to be a true test, you would need to test it with various types of snakes, since they all don't hunt and probably don't get repelled the same way. Then you would have to test the durability of the product over time and weather. Then you would have to be sure all it does it repel snakes and not poison pets or children or attract something equally as nasty like scorpions. I hate snakes. For me the best defense is keep everything around buildings and the like clean and clear. If you keep away things that attract snakes (rodents, birds eggs, shelter etc.) the snakes will stay away on their own.
westernrvparkowner 11/25/19 08:37am Beginning RVing
RE: YNP to add cell phone access at Canyon Village

the quote says nothing about Cell phone coverage. It is talking about wireless internet (wifi) coverage. Then there is that little note about needing dozens of other antennas throughout the park to link up to the external internet providers. It will be a very contested proposal. As with most plans for technology within the park system there will be a bunch of "No Wifi because a laptop will somehow ruin the 2.2 million acre park" " people combined with the "if I get what I want, I don't care about aesthetics" group who will meet up with the "a much better technology is just around the next corner" bunch. My wager would be on the plan going nowhere.
westernrvparkowner 11/24/19 09:08am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Charging electric car

I wasn't going to create energy out of thin air. I could be wrong but I thought that regenerative braking uses the motors as generators thereby causing drag which slows the vehicle. I wasn't suggesting engaging traditional brakes (I assume EVs have those in addition to regenerative brakes).If you are talking about outfitting Motorhomes with regenerative brakes to then charge a towed EV, that would require a massive regenerative system to effectively slow and stop a 40,000LB motorhome only for the benefit of a towed Prius. My personal driving experience with motorhomes is I seldom brake. Unlike driving a car, my motorhome is driven almost exclusively on trips. I go several hours at a time without even tapping the brake. I would think the average motorhome trip would provide very little in regenerative charging to the towed.
westernrvparkowner 11/23/19 11:04am Tech Issues
RE: Charging electric car

Ida thunk that with regenerative braking, the EV could charge itself as you drag it down the road. Hey maybe I'll patent that idea.There is that pesky problem of physics. You cannot create energy out of thin air. On top of that, no system is 100% efficient. It will take more energy to drag that EV with it's brakes engaged than will be stored in the batteries. True. OTOH, I think most toads use the normal braking system with control from the MH. If part of that braking system is regen, why not charge while slowing down? Then think about how many start their ICE before going out to car? Could the same system be used to turn on the motor, let the toad pull itself on uphills, or acceleration ramps? Or even push to limit of traction to help motorhome hold speed on hill? On normal cruise let it shut off, only turn on as you approach WOT. As for charging at the RV Park. We do not, and will not, ever allow it. It isn't about the money. I don't think there is an RV'er that hasn't experienced a park where the voltage drops on a hot day when the park is full. EV charging draws significant amperage for long periods of time. RV park electrical systems are not designed to be able to handle the additional demands of charging EVs. As that voltage drop indicates, many parks are almost unable to handle the current demand without adding EV charging. Your business, you can run it your way. But most hotel/motel are doing or thinking about doing it. As more E vehicles replace ICE, the calculation might change. Might work out better to have a small lot of charging stations where people pay separate fee for power from a separate line. Be better than the ones you know will run the MH on batteries while you sleep so can plug their car in.Hotels and motels are generally in metro areas where power is more readily available. Also, hotels and motels do not need to offer the charging directly outside each room. In an RV park setting there is tremendous pushback by guests against parking a vehicle anywhere but at their site. As for just feeding the charging area with a different line, I guess I wasn't clear in stating that in many rural areas (where RV parks are common) the power provider cannot just give the park more power. Their transmission system cannot provide the additional services. I don't doubt that somewhere in the future currently configured RV parks will become a thing of the past. (maybe it will be EV motorhomes, maybe it will be flying RVs and parks will need runways who really knows). But I believe that retrofitting current parks to be able to provide charging for EVs when the majority of the cars, trucks and RVs are actually Electrically powered will not be undertaken by many of those park owners. They will, instead, choose to sell and allow that land to be converted to other uses.
westernrvparkowner 11/23/19 11:00am Tech Issues
RE: Charging electric car

Ida thunk that with regenerative braking, the EV could charge itself as you drag it down the road. Hey maybe I'll patent that idea.There is that pesky problem of physics. You cannot create energy out of thin air. On top of that, no system is 100% efficient. It will take more energy to drag that EV with it's brakes engaged than will be stored in the batteries. As for charging at the RV Park. We do not, and will not, ever allow it. It isn't about the money. I don't think there is an RV'er that hasn't experienced a park where the voltage drops on a hot day when the park is full. EV charging draws significant amperage for long periods of time. RV park electrical systems are not designed to be able to handle the additional demands of charging EVs. As that voltage drop indicates, many parks are almost unable to handle the current demand without adding EV charging. A blanket "No EV charging" is our way of preventing problems. We are not interested in a policy of "It's OK to charge if there are only a few EVs", or "You can charge if the park isn't very full" or "Charging is OK unless it is hot outside". There have been many threads recommending parks just upgrade or install charging stations, or have some kind of gizmo that charges for power at each site. All those "solutions" come with significant costs and hidden problems. For example, in rural areas there is often not significant power available from the power supplier to just add capacity. I looked at purchasing a property that had only 30 amp services. During my due diligence I had the electrical system engineered to upgrade all the sites to 50 amp and expand the park by about 25%. When I inquired with the Co-op power provider about costs and time frame I was told the current section of the grid servicing the park could not supply the additional power. If I wanted to move forward I would be responsible for upgrading several miles of transmission lines, providing the upgraded transformer and paying for all the costs of that plan. The estimate was 7 figures. That shut down that deal on the spot. Simple projects sometimes aren't so simple.
westernrvparkowner 11/23/19 09:25am Tech Issues
RE: Tesla Cybertruck

Remember when Tusk teased about Ram's "puny" load rating? LMAO The springs are sagging with a quad in the back!! LOL https://i.imgur.com/4YC8dfOl.jpg This thing has gap! ^^^^^^Yes Elon was vary proud of the air suspension feature where the rear will drop for loading, adjust height lower for highway economy, raise for additional off road clearance, level the vehicle based on payload, and provide enough compressed air to to run various air tools.Personally, I think my Harbor Freight Air compressor is better looking, will run more tools and it's probably $100,000+ cheaper.
westernrvparkowner 11/22/19 01:59pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

You sure have a lot of animosity for the "Money Works for Them" people. I've worked for over 50 years. I put money away and invested it as I went along. I didn't spend it on booze. I paid tax on that money as I put it away, and I pay tax on the capital gains NOW. And that tax rate is 5 times more then the tax rate 50% of the taxpayers are paying. I'm proud to be a "Money Works for Them" person. I earned it. Some spent it on booze. Your bad decision is not my fault. Take responsibility for your decisions and quit being a hater on people that made good decisions.If the haters of wealth would take 10 seconds to actually engage their brains they would realize that it is very likely they, or someone they care about, has a good job only because of other people's wealth. And I am not even talking about being employed by a company that is owned or headed by a wealthy individual. At the local RV park, there are likely RVs that cost more than 95% of the population can afford. They are bought by those hated rich people, yet the poor salesman who sold it makes a commission that they then use to feed, house and entertain their families. If there wasn't a rich person to buy that RV, there wouldn't be people employed to make it. And those employees are your neighbors in Oklahoma (Newell Factory), Texas (Foretravel), Indiana (Elkhart) and similar middle American locations. I doubt I would be in business if it wasn't for people who have earned and saved more money than the average American because RVing is not a hobby for the poor. Even the poster child for arrogant rich, Donald J. Trump, had dozens upon dozens of people making good income just from the fact that he was a wealthy prima donna. Before he became president I am sure the pilots, the mechanics, the catering company and all the other services related to his private jet were glad there was a rich person that owned and operated that jet and paid their salaries. I bet the guy who gilded the toilets in his penthouse made a nice paycheck for the job. Even the hair stylist who cut that mop on top of Trump's head was glad for a rich guy because he probably got $100+ for that haircut rather than making $10 for cutting Joe Lunchbucket's hair at Supercuts. As a matter of fact, I bet even some of our resident rich hater's fellow truckers only have a job because they transport goods intended for the rich. Those lobsters, cases of Dom Perignon, Rolls Royces and Bentleys, solid gold toilets and pallets of hundred dollar bills don't move themselves.
westernrvparkowner 11/22/19 09:07am General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

We all have the same opportunities in this country. Not hardly. How not hardly? How so? They do not have a brain to think for themselves? Stay out of trouble? We have access to so much information on the internet than ever before. Is ignorance an excuse now, gee "I didn't know"? No will to pay attention in school? No access to teachers or counselors in our schools? No books to study? Go to Church for support? No opportunity to choose their friends wisely and stay out of trouble? No opportunity to work one job? Two jobs to get ahead? Get roommates to save money? I did that much of my life. Volunteer? Use the Library? Use the many programs available to help people? Get counseling? People do not have access to birth control? No access to school, community college? No opportunity to joining the military as a means to get out of a bad situation, earn a paycheck, have a bed, a meal, and training? No opportunity to join the Reserves for extra income? And yes, I did that too. Both active duty and reserves AND worked 40 hour work week and took classes at night. No access to move anywhere in this country for work and better living conditions? I have moved over 28 times back and forth all across this country in my life for jobs. Not by choice, for survival. Pull the poor me card? The race card? I also lived in the projects with my single mother that had 3 kids after our father left us. Guess we could have just stayed there the last 50 years and say we had "no opportunity" to get out and created 3 more generations of kids on the government dole. This is the greatest country on Earth, "not hardly" excuse does not cut it, neither does "poor me" anymore.Accepting this as factual requires people to accept personal responsibility for their failures in life. Isn't going to happen.
westernrvparkowner 11/21/19 01:04pm General RVing Issues
RE: ? Becoming a KOA Work Kamper for $

Add up the hours worked X even minimum wage. There is no way you can come out as a workamper vs a minimum wage job working anywhere else and just paying for you site out of your earnings. No cleaning toilets, nobody knocking on your door after your work hours, no unreasonable management, no extra hours without pay. B.O.We pay wages from hour one. Plus, you get a site, you get electricity, water and cable TV. Plus you don't have to commute to and from work. What minimum wage jobs offer a better deal? Most minimum wage jobs do require doing a few less than glamorous duties, some even include cleaning toilets. BTW, cleaning toilets isn't all that bad a duty. No one bothers you. It's out of the weather. You move at your own pace and you don't have to do it with bare hands.
westernrvparkowner 11/21/19 12:59pm General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

If you bounced a check, why would the IRS be involved? That is a civil matter between you and whomever you wrote the check to. And the IRS doesn't put liens on vehicles or businesses or even your personal accounts without a long legal process. For a bounced check to result in IRS liens the check would have had to been payment for severely past due taxes and if that was the case, the problem wasn't so much the bounced check but that your taxes were years in arrears. So either a relatively small amount of money ($12,000) completely decimated your business and life for many months to years, or there is much more to the story. I'm not sure what it matters other than to disparage my character but I will send you a PMDon't care about any pm. When people claim personal experiences to support their positions and those experiences don't make sense I point out the descepancies. end of story.
westernrvparkowner 11/20/19 09:12pm General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

You sure have a lot of reasons for failure, but none of them seem to include "I screwed up.". I have never been sentenced court ordered money management but I doubt that the course taught that if you can't rent for that recommended 30% you should live on the street. My "screw up" that put me in the class was I trusted a banker when he told me the $12,000 cashes check was good. The class, at my expense, and paying the cost and penalty got the IRS to release the license for my trucks in 3 months instead of the year the lawyer said it was likely to take. (The only checks I have bounced in my life where behind that deal Even using your ridiculous assumption that a minimum wage worker can only work 40 hours, not a minute more, in a month A very small percentage of min wage workers will get over 38 hrs a week. Most would be closer to 20 than 40. a new BMW or even a car of any kind. But in this area public transportation is very limited. If you don't put room in the budget for a car you won't keep the job.If you bounced a check, why would the IRS be involved? That is a civil matter between you and whomever you wrote the check to. And the IRS doesn't put liens on vehicles or businesses or even your personal accounts without a long legal process. For a bounced check to result in IRS liens the check would have had to been payment for severely past due taxes and if that was the case, the problem wasn't so much the bounced check but that your taxes were years in arrears. So either a relatively small amount of money ($12,000) completely decimated your business and life for many months to years, or there is much more to the story.
westernrvparkowner 11/20/19 01:55pm General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

But a quick internet search found many apartments in Independence Missouri in the $600 a month range. A frugal single person can afford that on minimum wage. A couple where both are making even the minimum wage wouldn't even have to be frugal. Housing costs are not the cause of homelessness in your world. I do not think housing prices in this area have outpaced inflation near as much as west coast. Ok, what percentage of your income do you (or people in your income range. I don't know you, but if somebody is making house payments I figure they are renting from bank) spend for rent? In my court ordered personal money management class we where told it should not be over 30%. So that means a income of over $1800 a month, or 240 hours of minimum wage work. And the add the idea most employers in this area that pay minimum wage do not allow anybody to get close to 40 hours a week. And most minimum wage workers understand they are unlikely to work the same hours day to day let alone week to week. This makes it hard to take a 2nd job. ("Sorry, I can't work these hours, I have to work...) Fact is over a decade ago, lots of people that had middle class jobs lost their jobs, houses etc. And at that time, a couple of graduating classes came into a labor market where jobs that paid enough to pay the loans where rare. Most of the people that lost the high paying jobs went back to work, but took a pay cut. So they are in lower priced housing, crowding out the lower income. This will be a issue for a generation. True, I don't live in your world. In my world all the homeless are not college grads. The police are not lurking around every corner looking to violate my rights and steal my money. And the rich aren't out to get me, they just don't care about me one way or the other. However I understand that is how you see things in your world. Are the worlds different? Not all homeless are collage grads, but unexpected decisions can cause homelessness. The wrong health insurance policy can put even somebody pretty well off into bankruptcy. That may not take your house, but if you get sick again before the time limit between bankruptcy? The police? Under civil asset forfeiture rules you have to prove you did nothing wrong, not the "innocent until proven guilty" we were taught to expect. And a large percentage of the population do not know the laws are in force. Many when you try to explain ether start waving the Constitution saying it can't happen. Others say "good, crime did not pay" without understanding that if the criminal did not need to be convicted, then you would not need to be convicted to lose your stuff. Rich don't care about me? Not as long as I pay my taxes, and can be manipulated into voting for the people that will keep them from paying theirs. Fact is class war has gone on since the start of capitalism, but for the last 40+ years the rich have been winning.You sure have a lot of reasons for failure, but none of them seem to include "I screwed up.". I have never been sentenced court ordered money management but I doubt that the course taught that if you can't rent for that recommended 30% you should live on the street. The minimum wage in Missouri is $8.60. A forty hour work week will earn the minimum wage worker $1490.00 a month (40 hours x $8.60 x 4.333 weeks per month). Using an on line calculator to determine take home pay in Missouri that minimum wage worker will take home $1292.00. Even using your ridiculous assumption that a minimum wage worker can only work 40 hours, not a minute more, in a month that is enough money to pay a $600.00 rent, pay the water and electric bill and eat. No there isn't money left over for a thousand dollar smartphone, a European vacation every six months, a new BMW or even a car of any kind. But you aren't living on the street. The good news is this mythical minimum wage worker won't have anything to lose when the big bad civil forfeiture police come knocking on their apartment door.
westernrvparkowner 11/20/19 08:28am General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

True, I don't live in your world. In my world all the homeless are not college grads. The police are not lurking around every corner looking to violate my rights and steal my money. And the rich aren't out to get me, they just don't care about me one way or the other. However I understand that is how you see things in your world. But a quick internet search found many apartments in Independence Missouri in the $600 a month range. A frugal single person can afford that on minimum wage. A couple where both are making even the minimum wage wouldn't even have to be frugal. Housing costs are not the cause of homelessness in your world.
westernrvparkowner 11/19/19 02:19pm General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

However, the homeless crisis is less about all that, IMO. IDK what the causes are. All the mentally ill congregate in certain cities?? People getting lazier? IDK It's sure as heck not the economy and hasn't been for a long time. The recent phenomenon of old RVs becoming urban homeless shelters is, every year there are more/newer RVs that still are "useable" but not road worthy. (Back in the whatever 70s-90s, there weren't the number of RVs that were old, because it was a newer industry.) Makes sense, I'd live in a leaky RV with a bad engine before living under a bridge!I think you may have hit the nail directly on the head. It is probably made even worse by the fact that disposing of a used RV usually involves a cost. You can take a car or truck to a wrecking yard and get a few bucks. An RV, not way. They don't want it. Take it to a landfill operation and they are going to have both requirements and conditions (no paper inside, No refrigerant in the refrigerator or AC units, only take them on the third Wednesday of certain months, etc) and will charge a fee, which in my experience is in the hundreds of dollars. Better to give it away and it eventually makes it way to the homeless communities usually by someone who thinks they are doing a good thing. The homeless problem is one without a solution. Like others have said, most are either mentally ill, highly addicted to drugs and alcohol or just plain willing to live that life. Our society is not willing to involuntarily commit the ill and addicted. We can't suddenly make someone want to work and pay rent. We increasingly decide as a society to not rigorously enforce vagrancy laws and the like and when we do, it just moves the problem, it doesn't provide a solution. Even giving people housing doesn't work, our history with public housing proves that. For most communities that have severe homeless problems the actually driving force is climate. It's more pleasant to be homeless in San Francisco than it is in Chicago. And once again society has decided that changing climate is also bad public policy, so homelessness in cities such as LA, San Francisco, Portland etc. will continue without an answer. I think you are overlooking the large percentage the homeless that are employed, but with low pay, student loans, high cost child care for unpredictable hours, rent is out of their budget.Unless your definition of employed includes begging on the street corner or collecting large amounts of cans for the deposit the vast majority of homeless are unemployed and unable to be employed. The family burdened by student loans living on the streets makes for great TV, so that is what the news seeks out. Making them the needle to look for in the giant homeless haystack. there is no interest in putting the actual poop in the street, mentally ill, aggressive panhandling, street person on television. It doesn't draw viewers, doesn't elicit sympathy and doesn't raise funding for the homeless activists. It just hardens public opinion against the homeless. Such situations as you described are a tiny percentage of the homeless population.
westernrvparkowner 11/19/19 11:10am General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

However, the homeless crisis is less about all that, IMO. IDK what the causes are. All the mentally ill congregate in certain cities?? People getting lazier? IDK It's sure as heck not the economy and hasn't been for a long time. The recent phenomenon of old RVs becoming urban homeless shelters is, every year there are more/newer RVs that still are "useable" but not road worthy. (Back in the whatever 70s-90s, there weren't the number of RVs that were old, because it was a newer industry.) Makes sense, I'd live in a leaky RV with a bad engine before living under a bridge!I think you may have hit the nail directly on the head. It is probably made even worse by the fact that disposing of a used RV usually involves a cost. You can take a car or truck to a wrecking yard and get a few bucks. An RV, not way. They don't want it. Take it to a landfill operation and they are going to have both requirements and conditions (no paper inside, No refrigerant in the refrigerator or AC units, only take them on the third Wednesday of certain months, etc) and will charge a fee, which in my experience is in the hundreds of dollars. Better to give it away and it eventually makes it way to the homeless communities usually by someone who thinks they are doing a good thing. The homeless problem is one without a solution. Like others have said, most are either mentally ill, highly addicted to drugs and alcohol or just plain willing to live that life. Our society is not willing to involuntarily commit the ill and addicted. We can't suddenly make someone want to work and pay rent. We increasingly decide as a society to not rigorously enforce vagrancy laws and the like and when we do, it just moves the problem, it doesn't provide a solution. Even giving people housing doesn't work, our history with public housing proves that. For most communities that have severe homeless problems the actually driving force is climate. It's more pleasant to be homeless in San Francisco than it is in Chicago. And once again society has decided that changing climate is also bad public policy, so homelessness in cities such as LA, San Francisco, Portland etc. will continue without an answer.
westernrvparkowner 11/19/19 08:32am General RVing Issues
RE: Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

Prices have always increased on homes in the long run. Supply and demand. A lot of homes in small towns with lack of jobs can be bought dirt cheap. For a retired person who does not depend on employment this can be a good deal. There are several list of states and towns that are the best places to retire along with the most expensive places to retire. Illegal immigrants compound the housing issue but certain people choose not to address the issue. Until these people are voted out I don't see things changing. I don't know where you live, but we have been buying this house from the bank for 28 years. We bought when the market was pretty stable, but then came the depression that the prior administration built a fire under. (Anybody that has looked at the county's history would know that the same things that were done by FDR that extended that depression for an additional three (maybe more) years is what was done again.) Today, I could sell out home and not get back what we paid for it in cash value (not even thinking about the interest over near 30 years). Everybody wants a piece of the rich old people that only worked hard for years to live so "easily" now. If you perchance think I may be a little bitter, that just means that you are observant.There is virtually no way a home you purchased 28 years ago has not appreciated in value provided you have done reasonable maintenance. I just don't believe you have your facts correct.
westernrvparkowner 11/18/19 02:00pm General RVing Issues
RE: campground to avoid

Must have been REALLY Awful ....1 night in Sept and its now mid NOV x2 Really strange I am terribly SORRY that I have attracted the ire SENIOR members since you are experts in the trade and I don`t need your krap I have been busy since my return late Oct. I WAS HOPING TO SAVE SOME UNEXPECTING RV`ER THE TROUBLE Here is the situation: Paid my registration and fee-upon leaving Old man says "now get the F outta here" and gives the fingerwave. I just shook my head and told the son to keep him on a short chain. Residents I spoke with were actually nice and friendly and several Glad to see you took action to make sure the situation didn't escalate(insert sarcasm emoji). While anything is possible, I find it hard to believe that the only conversation was you saying "hi, my name is X, here is my money for the night" and the owner's reply was as you stated. Bet the truth is there is a bit more that happened prior to the owner's final comments. Like the previous poster noted, the evidence is starting to build against you.
westernrvparkowner 11/18/19 08:24am General RVing Issues
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