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RE: private land camping questions, cell booster suggestions

OK, let me clarify a few things I should have from the get-go: We are not talking about someone 'running an RV park' on their private farm land. There are 3 campsites, one of which is occupied permanently by one of the landowners (living full time in their RV). Sooo, a total of just 2 campsites being rented, the other one already being occupied by one of the landowners. And from what I can gather, the 2 rental sites are only occupied very sporadically, they do not stay occupied all the time. Yes, they do charge a small nightly fee to stay there. Since they are providing 50 amp electricity, sewer, and water, I'd say that is only fair. They're just a really nice older, retired couple that are trying to supplement their retirement income a little. As to the comments/questions about why I am working remotely and need to do so 450 miles from home: Sorry, that is a long, somewhat personal story I'd rather not get into on a public forum. Its not really relevant to this discussion, anyway, and would just make the thread go sideways even more. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions about various cell phone booster ideas. I see that Best Buy has the Weboost units, I may go have a look at them.Depending up the zoning, state and local laws and the like, they may or may not be in violation. Just because they are older and want to supplement their income doesn't exempt them from the laws that determine whether or not it is legal. One of the duties of government is to protect the public. If they are operating a business that requires licensing and inspections and they do not have those items they may be putting the public at risk. Improper waste water disposal can contaminate not only their property but the neighboring properties. It can contaminate the site itself and pass diseases onto the next occupant. Public water systems (and that is what any water system that serves the general public is) must be tested periodically to insure that there are no harmful contaminates. When and if a complaint is filed about a business operating outside of the law it is the duty of the authorities to investigate and, if necessary, close the offending business. In your first post you implied that all is not good in the neighborhood. That this park, or if you prefer, two rental sites on someone's land, has caused problems for the nearby neighbors will likely lead to future actions by the local authorities. Maybe they will inform the neighbors there is nothing they can do because three RV sites are legal or maybe they will shut them down. Without knowing all the state and local zoning and land use laws and how the sites are actually constructed and serviced all we can do is speculate.
westernrvparkowner 07/16/19 03:26pm General RVing Issues
RE: private land camping questions, cell booster suggestions

Seems to me, all the land owner would have to do is not charge for RV parking. Of course, donations are encouraged, say $25 or $30, to "help defray expenses". Sorta like the RV dump station at the City Park in Cut Bank, MT. Dumping is no charge, but the last time I used it a $3 donation was encouraged (I dropped $5 in the "Donation Box"). I do not believe any state agency can prevent a land owner from providing a free service.The government absolutely does prohibit landowners from providing a multitude of "services" regardless of whether or not people pay. Try letting your neighbor tap into the water from a river that runs across your property for irrigation. Without water rights that would be illegal. Can't allow the public to dump their holding tanks on your fields for free, that would be in violation of sanitation laws. You can't let hunters hunt on your property unless the game is in season. Calling it "donations" and not site fees is the same as calling a pig a chicken. The meat is still pork. As I pointed out earlier, a RV park, regardless of the fees they charge, fall under many regulations and inspections. There are health and safety concerns, concerns for neighbors, concerns for the environment and concerns for those who would use the facilities. It sure isn't a money grab by the state since there is no way the licensing and inspection fees I pay yearly cover the cost of the employees doing the inspections and issuing the licenses. Can and do people put in a few RV sites and fall under the radar, absolutely. But in this case it is apparent that something happened and the landowners are now on the radar screen and it is very likely their mom and pop pseudo RV park is going to be closed down.
westernrvparkowner 07/16/19 01:24pm General RVing Issues
RE: Seasonal Site

Is anyone using their Class A Motorhome on a seasonsl site, instead of a travel trailer?There are many ownership parks that are Class A only. Go to any of the old Outdoor Resorts parks in Florida, California, Michigan, Nevada etc. and you will see multiple million dollar rigs on their sites for the season.
westernrvparkowner 07/16/19 09:32am General RVing Issues
RE: private land camping questions, cell booster suggestions

Yes, it is probably illegal. Yes, it is likely the neighbors will get it shut down. They are running a RV park, which has many licensing requirements. In Montana, for example, there are fire codes, plumbing codes, electrical codes sanitation codes and water testing that parks must meet and are periodically inspected for. To build a park, you must apply, pay for, and get approved "subdivision for rent" for each site. Part of that process are environmental studies, impact studies and public hearings. The land must be properly zoned and taxed for business use. Making rural land an RV park will likely mean tax exemptions for agriculture, forestry, undeveloped rural land and the like will no longer apply to the property and the owners would have to pay higher taxes, just like every other business. And that is the requirements in one of the most rural states in the US. Can you really blame the neighbors? They likely bought rural property for privacy and peace and quiet. A RV park next door isn't what they bargained for. The density of a park means much more traffic, much more noise, an increase in trash and generally they are an eyesore compared to forested land and farmers fields. The problems are further compounded by the fact the owners apparently don't actively manage the park and some bad tenants impacted those neighbors negatively. As for increasing your cell service, yes there are products that will improve marginal cell service. Wilson is a popular brand, their website is wilsonamplifiers.com. Be aware that no matter what you use, you aren't going to have as good a connection you would have in an area with solid cellular service to begin with.
westernrvparkowner 07/16/19 08:32am General RVing Issues
RE: camp ground cable into

OK my mistake id did have one its a smart TV and looked around for some reason it was smashed up and broke off now what any answersYou can probably buy a new TV for what it will cost you to get the components to convert coax cable to HDMI. The biggest problem might be finding a set small enough to fit your space. A couple of hundred bucks will buy you a 40 incher today. It's upgrade time!!
westernrvparkowner 07/16/19 08:03am Technology Corner
RE: Selling Canadian MHome in US with no title

Once the vehicle was legally imported into Canada it became illegal to sell it in the US until it is imported (not just driven in, but processed through customs for sale in the states) back into the US. You should consult US customs for the actual process to make it legal to sell. Crossing country borders is way different than crossing state lines.
westernrvparkowner 07/14/19 07:23pm RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: Selling Canadian MHome in US with no title

Does the MH have a Canada tag or a US tag? If it's US, then follow the tag to the state and file for a lost title. With that info contact the original titled owner and have them sign it over. In absence of a title, the dealer should be able to do a title 42 (in Oklahoma), a lot of paperwork but it will establish the person in possession as the proper owner, then allow them to get a tag and new title. Wrecker services do this all the time to get a clear title to abandoned vehicles so they can sell them at auction with a good title.That would only work on Vehicles that have a US titling history. This is a Canadian registered vehicle. Canada is not state, it is a completely different sovereign country. State laws, US uniform commercial code and other laws regarding ownership transfers and the like do not apply to cross border transactions. The RV in question cannot be sold in the US without import documentation being completed. Simply put, the vehicle is the US as a visitor. Just like someone on a tourist visa cannot work in the US, the visiting RV cannot be sold. It needs to get it's equivalent of a Green Card which is the import paperwork. Only then can it be sold in the US. Trying to use different state's DMV offices to try and circumvent US import laws just isn't going to work. This isn't a junk vehicle, it is a luxury motorhome likely worth multiple 10s of thousands of dollars at a minimum. There are very specific steps that will need to be taken to complete a sale. Quite frankly, the best option for the seller if they don't want to take the time and expense of completing all the required documentation might be to just return it to Canada and sell it there.
westernrvparkowner 07/14/19 03:17pm RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: Selling Canadian MHome in US with no title

The consignment undoubtedly contained a clause requiring the consignee to provide all necessary documentation to facilitate a sale. The fact a dealer took it on consignment doesn't negate any paperwork requirements. When you bring an item from one country to another for the purpose of sale, it is required that the product be legally "imported". For personally owned vehicles from Canada this is generally taken care of at a port of entry by the legal owner. Apparently, you neglected to tell the border agent the vehicle was going to be sold in the US, so now there is a problem. No state is going to issue a tile, and Foretravel isn't going to be able to provide a replacement certificate of origin. For all the states know, the vehicle may have a huge bank lien on it from a Canadian Bank and someone is trying to outrun a repossession and get a big chunk of cash at the same time. They won't issue a title without proper paperwork and that paperwork includes import documentation. This isn't going to be easy. Best place to start to get real answers will be US Customs.
westernrvparkowner 07/14/19 01:28pm RVing in Canada and Alaska
RE: Campground Breakers - EDITED

The campground is misinformed. Breakers do wear out. Campground usage very much speeds up that process. Breakers are not designed to be used as switches. Yet that is exactly how many people use them, turning off the breaker before plugging in their rigs and the like. You don't do that at home when you plug in a lamp or your toaster. Like others have posted, the unusual heat and the fact the park is full is adding to the problem. Plus, it sounds like both your AC units are on the same leg of service, which would be a bit odd. If they were on opposite legs, turning the 2nd AC on materially effect the breaker since the loads would be balanced. Are you running some other high amperage devices like the water heater on AC, the microwave or running electric cooktops etc.? All those add a lot to the load. So does your converter/charger if the house batteries are being charged at a high rate. All those add to the loads and can eventually lead to the breaker tripping. But yes, the park should consider changing out the breaker as first step, especially if yours is the only problem pedestal.
westernrvparkowner 07/13/19 06:01pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Good Sam poor road side assist

Nobody cares where you shop. What kind of response is that???????:RThe truth. This forum lets posts about bad experiences at all their businesses run until the activity stops or it devolves into inappropriate language and behavior. Only then are they closed. Even then, they are not deleted, only closed to future posting. They also monitor those threads and respond when appropriate. That is a whole lot more than most businesses allow. If closing a thread is the cause of someone refusing to patronize their business that is a prospective customer they are lucky to never have darken their doors.
westernrvparkowner 07/13/19 08:19am Good Sam Roadside Assistance
RE: Was rear ended on the highway

Did the driver that hit you have insurance? If so, do they have high enough liability limits to cover a total loss? If the answer to either question is "no", do you have "uninsured/under insured" on your policy? Your insurance company should be able to help guide you through the process of repairs, rental cars, additional expenses etc. Make a complete inventory of everything in the trailer and remove anything you can that is of value before it goes to the shop. If it is repairs, not replacement, be sure to seek "loss of value" compensation since repaired vehicles are not as valuable of the equivalent vehicle or trailer with no repair history. If they are totaled, it might be a good time to consider up-grading if the rigs weren't 100% perfect for what you do. It will likely be a time consuming slog, but most times a grudgingly agreeable outcome is achieved. Good luck. BTW, how do you know they were going 82 MPH and not 81 or 83 or anything else? And how do you know they weren't braking before the collision? Almost all vehicles have anti-lock brakes that do not leave skid marks. A rear end collision is almost assuredly the fault of the driver that hits the rear end, but don't go adding opinions or speculation when you make your reports. That will quickly raise a red flag in the eyes of an experienced investigator. No sense creating issues when there are none.
westernrvparkowner 07/11/19 09:01am General RVing Issues
RE: 100 amp service

RV resorts (RV country club) in Indio (the new one) has 70 amp service pedestals. That’s the most I have seen. I would think it will get more common as people are starting to trailer Electric Vehicles. Nice to have an extra 16 amps available for overnight charging. Many portable EVSE’s are either 16 amp or setable to 16 amps.There is no such thing as a 70 amp pedestal in RV park terminology. Standard 50 amp service pedestals have a 50 amp outlet, a 30 amp outlet and a 15 or 20 amp duplex outlet (normal US home outlet with GFCI) You do not add together those outlets to get a different amperage rating. There may be a few boxes for home usage where there is an additional main breaker in the box that protects the entire circuit, but RV park wiring protects the main circuits at main breaker panels, not at the pedestals. And, as always mentioned by me, most parks are not going to welcome charging of electric vehicles. Park wiring is not designed for such high amperage, long term draws in addition to the power demands of the RVs. We will make you unplug your electrical vehicles should we find them plugged in and so will many other parks.
westernrvparkowner 07/10/19 02:09pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: 100 amp service

Have seen a couple of Newells that were 100 AMP service, that is with two 50 amp pigtails.. However, they were wired to accommodate standard 50 amp service should two 50 amp services not be available. To answer the OP's question. You will likely seldom see a park with two 50 amp services at the site. It is much too expensive to run a second series of 50 amp services that will likely never, ever be used. Even if a park wired only one or two sites, they would likely to already be renting them to regular 50 amp rigs. No way would they consider keeping such a site vacant just hoping a white elephant showed up. ( it would have to be a very large site since any 100 Amp rig would be a 45 foot bus and all those are towing something). And no way would most parks allow running your generator. Unless you are in the $1,000,000 plus market, you aren't going to find a 100 amp RV. I will leave the gobblety-goop about 50 Amp service delivering 100 amps at 120 volts to others.
westernrvparkowner 07/10/19 02:02pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Towing Golf Cart on Utility Trailer

Golf carts are not built to withstand traveling long distances at 70 mph on an open trailer. Roofs, windshields, acessories and the like can come loose or otherwise be damaged. You should consider a good cover.
westernrvparkowner 06/18/19 02:16pm Towing
RE: Mouse Smell In Ducts Over 1 year now - will it sell?

It would stop me cold. As an aside, any strong masking scent would move me along as well. I would assume the worst. Sounds like time for professional help. It would be money well spent.
westernrvparkowner 06/18/19 02:08pm Travel Trailers
RE: Hot water

It is most likely very fine air bubbles. Fill a glass and let it settle. If it is clear and there is no sediment you have nothing to worry about.
westernrvparkowner 06/16/19 06:05pm General RVing Issues
RE: Medical marijuana

I was incorrect about Kroger putting CBL in foods but they will have it in their pharmaceutical area. I am surprised the Feds have not created some new and improved laws on the use of MM they are missing a tax hike, very strange for them. Growing up in a weed culture and Vietnam it is strange that it has taken over 45 years for weed to be made legal here. Short of the slower states that will likely never approve, the rest should have new laws in a couple of years. A political cash grab is way to tempting. For those that smoke this for recreation how many CGs have you been to where that telltale smell floats into your campsite? LOLIt has taken so long because many people feel there just isn't a need to legalize an additional intoxicant and a product that will likely have long term health issues associated with it. I don't think that anyone believes that misuse of THC products is going to decrease due to legalization This will lead to more people being under the influence while driving. Professsionals performing many vital tasks (air traffic controller, surgeon, your CPA, Pilot, your kid's teacher and hundreds more) may be impaired in their duties. As for health, I doubt that cognitive performance will increase with long term use. In the future, smoking will surely have detrimental effects on the lungs and probably other organs. I think it is likely that 20 years from now we will view Marijuana products similar to tobacco i.e. what were we thinking when we supported it's use and the businesses selling and promoting them. Sorry you are from the aforementioned states that will never get it. Guess what I have COPD from working in construction and smoking tobacco. I will not smoke it or use vapor as per my doctors instruction. You and so many others in the mid west are lost in your own world but unfortunately it is 50 years behind the rest of us. God help you if you suffer from many different diseases and problems as life goes on and you are not able to use CBL or THC to relieve your aches and pains. But that is you and not the rest of the nation, thank God.I am totally not opposed to medicinal use. But I think even you would agree that simply because something has medicinal value that does not necessarily mean it should be available to anyone for recreational use or even for purposes of self medicating. Amphetamines, opiods, narcotics and a host of other drug categories are both beneficial and abuseable. Not everything that could help you needs to be available at the local Qwickee Mart.
westernrvparkowner 06/12/19 07:00pm Travel Trailers
RE: Medical marijuana

2oldman - I totally agree with what you are saying. No sense in making the cartels rich and given people a criminal record for possession of cannabis.I personally have zero dogs in the fight. But the fact is criminal trafficing in cannabis has increased in places where it has been legalized. Seems the profit margin in illegal sales has increased due to the higher prices in legal shops brought about by the need for overhead (storefront, security systems employees, accounting etc) and taxes that the legal shops have. On top of that the illegal trade benefits from the fact the line between their illegal product and the legal product is now blurred. In my perfect world it would be decriminalized and hopefully a traffic fine structure would keep usage from exploding.
westernrvparkowner 06/12/19 03:00pm Travel Trailers
RE: Medical marijuana

I was incorrect about Kroger putting CBL in foods but they will have it in their pharmaceutical area. I am surprised the Feds have not created some new and improved laws on the use of MM they are missing a tax hike, very strange for them. Growing up in a weed culture and Vietnam it is strange that it has taken over 45 years for weed to be made legal here. Short of the slower states that will likely never approve, the rest should have new laws in a couple of years. A political cash grab is way to tempting. For those that smoke this for recreation how many CGs have you been to where that telltale smell floats into your campsite? LOLIt has taken so long because many people feel there just isn't a need to legalize an additional intoxicant and a product that will likely have long term health issues associated with it. I don't think that anyone believes that misuse of THC products is going to decrease due to legalization This will lead to more people being under the influence while driving. Professsionals performing many vital tasks (air traffic controller, surgeon, your CPA, Pilot, your kid's teacher and hundreds more) may be impaired in their duties. As for health, I doubt that cognitive performance will increase with long term use. In the future, smoking will surely have detrimental effects on the lungs and probably other organs. I think it is likely that 20 years from now we will view Marijuana products similar to tobacco i.e. what were we thinking when we supported it's use and the businesses selling and promoting them.
westernrvparkowner 06/12/19 11:44am Travel Trailers
RE: Vegas food

The cheap is all but gone. The one consistency in Las Vegas is the Casinos are going to go where the money is. At one time it was the Gambler. That was when the price of everything else was between free and nearly free. Then the non gambling crowd caught on to the bargains for lodging, food and entertainment and the casinos started housing and feeding people who weren't gambling, so that went away. The next reincarnation was family fun. Thankfully, that didn't last too long. Within a decade or so it was gone. Next came the nightclubs and pool parties. Brought a lot of people, but didn't fill the coffers with cash. Today it is entertainment at full prices. The hotels, the restaurants, the shows and everything else are top dollar. The hotels tack on $30 to $50 "resort fees" on top of the room rate. The top shows are $100+ per seat. If you are a big player, everything can be comped, but don't expect to find a good steak and lobster dinner for $10 on the strip. You can still find a few of those in the way off the beaten path, tired and old properties, but it won't be fine dining at prime hours.
westernrvparkowner 06/11/19 05:21pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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