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Turtle-Toad

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Posted: 02/21/12 06:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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THERE IS NOW A CHARGE (200-400) WHICH IS DEDUCTED FROM YOUR CREDIT CARD AT THE BORDER OR CASH (THIS WILL BE REFUNDED UPON EXIT ALSO IN CASH)..NORMANDO


ONLY if you're traveling in Mainland Mexico, NOT if you're staying in the Sonoran Hassle Free Zone or either of the Baja's. TIP's are NOT required in these areas, consequently there is no charge.

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that's correct, I was referring to the vehicle permit needed to travel all of mexico.....thanks

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I think we are both saying the same thing. Maybe I should clarify my terminology.

A TIP is a Temporary Import Permit for vehicles. There are many kinds of TIP's but the ones that are normally under discussion here are the 6 month TIP for pickup trucks, cars, and some OTR (Off The Road) or ATV (All Terrain Vehicles); and the 10 Year RV TIP. These may or may not be needed in various parts of Mexico. There is no vehicle permit that is needed to travel ALL of Mexico.

The confusion comes from the local interpretation of these rules. It appears that some of the border guards are allowing vehicles that normally require a 6 month TIP into the Sonora No Hassle Zone (which is correct) but requiring RV's to get a 10 Year TIP (which is incorrect). For the Sonora No Hassle Zone, the only thing required is a FMM, and then only if you are staying more than 72 hours.

A FMM (formerly FMT) is a Forma Migratoria Multiple and like the TIP comes in a multitude of flavors. The most common of these is the general tourist permit for anyone staying in Mexico over 72 hours. This is the permit that is required in ALL of Mexico and is valid for 180 days in a year. Other flavors have other rules and requirements.

I haven't been able to find anything official on it but apparently people going to PP (Rocky Point) don't bother with the FMM either, even if they are going for longer than 3 days.

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Planning a trip withen the next year or so from Texas thru Mexico to Belize and other central America countries. Will have a 42ft RV pulling a 22ft (total length 64 ft) enclosed trailer. Inside I will have a stand up tool box, a small SUV, a custom golf cart, a 150 cc motor scooter, & 4x8 fold-up trailer for towing the golf cart. What will I need to do to get into Mexico, then =into Belize etc. then back thru Mexico to Texas? The tips and web sites I have seen are a bit confusing for this type of outfit. Any info or help will be appreciated.
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I can't help you for Belize, but I might be able to give you some info for crossing into Mexico. But I also have a couple of questions.

1. Are you going to bring all this stuff back with you?

2. Is any of it new?

3. Are you going to be alone or will there be another adult with you making the round trip?

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Thanks for the response. To answer your questions,
1. Yes, we will bring evereything back with us.

2. The trailer and motor scooter will be 1-2 yrs old, depending on when we decide to go down.

3. My wife and my dog will be with me.

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OK, now I'll try to answer your questions.
  • The RV will have to have 10 year TIP.
  • The SUV will have to have a 6 month TIP.
  • The trailer will be included with the RV TIP
  • The scooter will probably be on the RV permit, along with the tool box, folding trailer, and golf cart.


You may have to get a supervisor to help you with this, I feel the junior guards would get confused with this set-up. They may want you to split the stuff up and put some of it on the SUV permit. If either the golf cart or the scooter have street plates on them they might want to have a TIP on them. But I believe this is wrong.

Make sure you have registration/proof of ownership on everything except the tool box. I'd make up an inventory list of everything and have it stamped, signed and attached to the TIP. Make sure you get a copy so you can show that you brought this stuff into the country from the US. This will probably be needed to get through the other border crossings without paying import fee's.

Just in case they insist that you need another 6 month TIP for the scooter or the golf cart, make sure that your wife is on the registration/proof of ownership; one person can only have one of each type of TIP (one 6 month and one 10 year). But I doubt that will happen, you are allowed up to 3 powered "toys" (scooters, atv's, etc) per TIP and the scooter and golf cart should be classed as "toys".

Of course there's always the possibility of a RCNC episode whenever you get out of the little rut these guys are used to. [emoticon]

REMEMBER; this only applies to getting into Mexico from the US. I have absolutely no idea what the Belize authorities are going to want. Or what the Mexican guards between Mexico and Belize are going to say.

Unless you are planning on spending some time in Mexico you might want to look into a document some call a Transporting or Transiting Permit. This is for people that are just transiting across Mexico to Central America and points south. I have no info on them other than some kind of document does exist.

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Thanks Turtle-Toad this is very helpful. best of luck and good rv'ing

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Hi. Docpage.... If you are planning beyond Mexico, you are prohibited from taking all that luggage with you, unless you want to pay the import duty. It is not considered to be within the "tourista" permitted quota. Also for each motorized vehicle there must be a owner, and a orginal title in the name of that person.

If you get into Mexico, I would stick to the borders of Mexico.

I hope I have been informative to you.

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Tijuana to San Diego, San Ysidro.

Be prepared for long waits, from an hour, to more than three and a half.

Friend of mine came trough in a car, he was in line for 3 hours and 18 minutes, from before the bridge over the Tijuana river to the booth.

The construction, is going to be fiknished in 2015, so be patient.

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