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MtnBikeMarty

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MtnBikeMarty here in AZ with an update to my 2012 27G, that I got about four years ago. Took a trip up north to cooler altitudes of AZ and had a front shock blow out, which damaged the front and outer rear tires. Luckily no one was hurt and was able to nicely pull over to the side of the interstate. Thankfully, I've always been a member of Good Sam's roadside assistance program (I've always felt safer with the coverage on vehicle I bought with 141K miles on it), a couple hours later we towed to an RV repair and Ford dealer. Diagnosis... 4 new shocks, 6 new tires (originals were date coded at 5 years), kept the best original and had it mounted to replace the 8 yr spare, and full under carriage inspection, which found a missing exhaust clamp. Unrelated to the blow out, I had a radiator starting to crack at the hose connection. Thanks to my Visa card, it drives nice again, considering I'd done little chasis work in my 4 year's 6K miles except a new battery a couple years ago, but that's typical in the AZ heat...shorter battery and tire life in the AZ heat.

While it was in the shop, I did a lot of youtube searching on E450 upgrades and discovered I wish I had upgraded the sway bars and steering control stabilizer, and maybe even added SumoSprings. I called the repair shop to see if I could upgrade the 4 shocks, too late they were done and the new tires mounted, just doing the radiator....dang it, oh well, I'll probably replace them next year with something beefier (bilsteins maybe??) than the OEM shocks they put on last week. I think I coould replace them with my neighbor buddy's help.

So, I ordered the steering control stabilizer and front SumoSprings. Next month will be rear Sumo's and both front and rear sway bars. I'll try and post pics and updates of the upgrades.

If you're on the fence of the upgrades vs. cost, watch a few youtube videos on the upgrades and everyone says that should be your first E350/E450 upgrade. If you've ever driven a class C E450 for more than an hour, you feel beat up and always blown off the road by passing semi's.

BTW, after all my research, here's what I'm going with for my E450:
Roadmaster steering stabilizer RM-RBK24-RSSC ~$325,
Sumo Springs front 1,000lbs SSF-106-47 ~$185,
Roadmaster Front sway bar RM-1139-176 ~$346,

Roadmaster Rear sway bar RM-1139-147 ~$347,
Sumo Springs Rear 2,800 lbs SSR-107-54 ~$244.

FYI, there is a smaller set of Sumo's (500 Lbs front and 1,500 lbs rear) that would probably work, but I found one review recommended those for a E350, and when we go, I always go out with a full gas tank and full fresh water tank...i.e. lots of weight.

In summary, I love my Majestic, former rental CA 27G (the 28'-6" with the aero front that they don't sell anymore), yes, I'm putting an investment in it, but planning on keeping it for awhile, and anything to improve safety while driving it a must. And even if you buy a new class C RV, you're going to want to put these steering and suspension upgrades on cause Ford doesn't do it originally. Stay tuned for updates on the upgrades.

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MtnBikeMarty wrote:

MtnBikeMarty here in AZ with an update to my 2012 27G, that I got about four years ago. Took a trip up north to cooler altitudes of AZ and had a front shock blow out, which damaged the front and outer rear tires. Luckily no one was hurt and was able to nicely pull over to the side of the interstate. Thankfully, I've always been a member of Good Sam's roadside assistance program (I've always felt safer with the coverage on vehicle I bought with 141K miles on it), a couple hours later we towed to an RV repair and Ford dealer. Diagnosis... 4 new shocks, 6 new tires (originals were date coded at 5 years), kept the best original and had it mounted to replace the 8 yr spare, and full under carriage inspection, which found a missing exhaust clamp. Unrelated to the blow out, I had a radiator starting to crack at the hose connection. Thanks to my Visa card, it drives nice again, considering I'd done little chasis work in my 4 year's 6K miles except a new battery a couple years ago, but that's typical in the AZ heat...shorter battery and tire life in the AZ heat.

While it was in the shop, I did a lot of youtube searching on E450 upgrades and discovered I wish I had upgraded the sway bars and steering control stabilizer, and maybe even added SumoSprings. I called the repair shop to see if I could upgrade the 4 shocks, too late they were done and the new tires mounted, just doing the radiator....dang it, oh well, I'll probably replace them next year with something beefier (bilsteins maybe??) than the OEM shocks they put on last week. I think I coould replace them with my neighbor buddy's help.

So, I ordered the steering control stabilizer and front SumoSprings. Next month will be rear Sumo's and both front and rear sway bars. I'll try and post pics and updates of the upgrades.

If you're on the fence of the upgrades vs. cost, watch a few youtube videos on the upgrades and everyone says that should be your first E350/E450 upgrade. If you've ever driven a class C E450 for more than an hour, you feel beat up and always blown off the road by passing semi's.

BTW, after all my research, here's what I'm going with for my E450:
Roadmaster steering stabilizer RM-RBK24-RSSC ~$325,
Sumo Springs front 1,000lbs SSF-106-47 ~$185,
Roadmaster Front sway bar RM-1139-176 ~$346,

Roadmaster Rear sway bar RM-1139-147 ~$347,
Sumo Springs Rear 2,800 lbs SSR-107-54 ~$244.

FYI, there is a smaller set of Sumo's (500 Lbs front and 1,500 lbs rear) that would probably work, but I found one review recommended those for a E350, and when we go, I always go out with a full gas tank and full fresh water tank...i.e. lots of weight.

In summary, I love my Majestic, former rental CA 27G (the 28'-6" with the aero front that they don't sell anymore), yes, I'm putting an investment in it, but planning on keeping it for awhile, and anything to improve safety while driving it a must. And even if you buy a new class C RV, you're going to want to put these steering and suspension upgrades on cause Ford doesn't do it originally. Stay tuned for updates on the upgrades.


Hi great to hear all going well and we were very pleased with our 2010 27G which we sold last year as we are not travelling to the US anymore after 4 great years.
How were your rubber vibration mounts between the chassis and the Rv body? I did notice that our were beginning to split and if we had kept her then i would have changed them (should be a simply jack up in the lcal are aand one out/one in [emoticon]


www.cencerrita.comNow living in Pembrokeshire, Wales, UK. Seeour web site for US travels www.cencerrita.com


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texasvwnut wrote:

General question about solar on these ex-CA rentals. I read some of the earlier posts on solar. On the Coach I'm in the process of purchasing, I'm being told that the solar cell is in place but the charging light will not indicate something is working on the panel. Assuming the worst, is the cell on these a generic unit I can be procured easily? My first angle will be to get CA to fix whatever the issue is prior to delivery.

Our cell always worked but the control panel unit was not working and the company that made the bits never replied to me. I know when we brought our 27G it seemed a waste of time following up as the panel was so low a wattage. I fitted 200w solar panels anyway that were moveable around the RV to the sunshine and that was more than enough for boondocking.
Suggest the easiest way forward for you is to fit a new bigger panel on the roof using existing cabling and then open up the tank control panel were the existing controller is (or was) and wire to just outside a new solar controller. Again using existing cables that go down to your battery. There was lots of sare cable length inside ours.

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No experience with replacement but you're lucky if you can find a 28A at one of the Sales Centers. My better half and I went back and forth between the 23A and the 28A for just the two of us and we liked the couch and the extra sleeping area. We could not find a 28A without going on the wait list so the decision was kind of made for us when the 23A was 'in stock'. I'm sure it will be plenty for our needs.


Yes, we're watching the inventory. And will just have to wait. [emoticon]

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cencerrita wrote:

texasvwnut wrote:

General question about solar on these ex-CA rentals. I read some of the earlier posts on solar. On the Coach I'm in the process of purchasing, I'm being told that the solar cell is in place but the charging light will not indicate something is working on the panel. Assuming the worst, is the cell on these a generic unit I can be procured easily? My first angle will be to get CA to fix whatever the issue is prior to delivery.

Our cell always worked but the control panel unit was not working and the company that made the bits never replied to me. I know when we brought our 27G it seemed a waste of time following up as the panel was so low a wattage. I fitted 200w solar panels anyway that were moveable around the RV to the sunshine and that was more than enough for boondocking.
Suggest the easiest way forward for you is to fit a new bigger panel on the roof using existing cabling and then open up the tank control panel were the existing controller is (or was) and wire to just outside a new solar controller. Again using existing cables that go down to your battery. There was lots of sare cable length inside ours.


Thanks for the information. What type of 200w panel(s) did you go with? Did you mount them on the roof with the ability to tilt?


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Thank you for this amazing resource!
We have a deposit down on a 2016 CA 28A and we are scheduled to pick it up in July.
I've been working my way through the pages and the information has been very helpful.

EDIT:
We received a call last week that a 2015 28A was available for slightly cheaper and less miles. We go down this weekend to check it out and purchase.

- If anyone is curious, we asked about adding a ladder and were told that it was not something they do.
- You also can't pick the color of the swoops [emoticon] (corporate office ships them randomly is what we were told)
- We asked about paperwork and they said they would put together what they can come up with (The reason for lack of paperwork in general we were told was because the various locations aren't linked...so when a unit is sent to a sales location, it's not necessarily with it's paperwork/history and that's not something that can just be pulled up on the computer at another location.

* This post was edited 06/16/20 09:07pm by fadumpt *


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Posted: 06/10/20 01:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MtnBikeMarty #75 !

Thanks for the great write up on your additions to your Former Rental!
I am sure that this will help out others that have or are planning to get a Former Rental. Your posts are always informative,keep them coming.

I hope that you can get out and enjoy the RV world this camping season.

Be well and enjoy it all.


2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental

Buying A Rental Class C


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fadumpt wrote:

Thank you for this amazing resource!
We have a deposit down on a 2016 CA 28A and we are scheduled to pick it up in July.
I've been working my way through the pages and the information has been very helpful.


fadumpt

Welcome to the Forum,also a future member of the Former Rental Owners Club.[image]

I Know that this thread is long but there is wealth of information contributed by our Forum members,hopefully it has been helpful to you,also maybe answered some of your questions.

When you pick your unit please come on back and share your experiences on the purchase and your comments on how it went and what you liked or didn't.

Again Welcome to the Forum and I can't wait to hear back form you after the purchase.

CwglIndn

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Hello all,
I just uploaded a video on putting on some OEM splash guards/mud flaps on my 23A. It should also work on the 28A or any Ford Van Chassis, I wish I had put them on prior to our last trip.

I'm also working on a video of adding the 7way connector to my RV. Very generic videos not high production value, just getting my experiences out there for others. Hope it helps someone.

Video

* This post was edited 06/14/20 03:40am by an administrator/moderator *

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Good job. I’m looking forward to your future videos.

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